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MDE

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
No youneed to go back to mmc 8.8 or lower to use Nvidia cards with an ATI tv card . Or you can use any third party tv tuner software since theyre all the same. ANy tv tuner software will work for your ati tv tuner.
8.8? Try 7.9. I can't get DScaler to work right either. I want the features from MMC 9 (pausing TV, rewind TV, etc.) and I'm not paying for a third party program.
 

BugsBunny1078

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Jan 11, 2004
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OK mde last resort is this
You cant install mmc 8.9 or higher with an nvidia card in. If however you have an ati card in you can.
GO buy an ATI video card install it. Install the MMC you want then go return your ATI card and put your NVidia card back in and you're done. Itll work just fine. The TV app only checks while installing. Nvidia cards display the tv fine. Yes I have done this so I know it works.
 

BugsBunny1078

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Jan 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: Mem
What's the big deal about the proper way to install drivers. I've never had any problems just installing over the old ones.

No big deal, just Driver Cleaner always finds some old ATi registry files even after the standard remove from Control Panel method and removes them,it`s also very easy to use .


Ive checked installing all three ways and there is 0 difference whatsoever. The driver installer takes care of everything. No need for driver cleaner or removing old drivers from control panel. I can have any catalysts installed and just click install on any newer or older version without a hitch.
 

MDE

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
OK mde last resort is this
You cant install mmc 8.9 or higher with an nvidia card in. If however you have an ati card in you can.
GO buy an ATI video card install it. Install the MMC you want then go return your ATI card and put your NVidia card back in and you're done. Itll work just fine. The TV app only checks while installing. Nvidia cards display the tv fine. Yes I have done this so I know it works.
I've done that already, didn't work. MMC just went screwy after I went back to the Nvidia card. ATI already got a "Customer Care" report from me.
 

Noid

Platinum Member
Sep 20, 2000
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Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
OK mde last resort is this
You cant install mmc 8.9 or higher with an nvidia card in. If however you have an ati card in you can.
GO buy an ATI video card install it. Install the MMC you want then go return your ATI card and put your NVidia card back in and you're done. Itll work just fine. The TV app only checks while installing. Nvidia cards display the tv fine. Yes I have done this so I know it works.

WTF ... Thats wrong.
(and you know it)

You can get a MMC install CD from ATi for 10$.
(shipping cost, ATI proof of ownership required)
 

MDE

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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Originally posted by: Noid
Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
OK mde last resort is this
You cant install mmc 8.9 or higher with an nvidia card in. If however you have an ati card in you can.
GO buy an ATI video card install it. Install the MMC you want then go return your ATI card and put your NVidia card back in and you're done. Itll work just fine. The TV app only checks while installing. Nvidia cards display the tv fine. Yes I have done this so I know it works.

WTF ... Thats wrong.
(and you know it)

You can get a MMC install CD from ATi for 10$.
(shipping cost)
It won't install with an Nvidia video card period. I'm not paying for something that I can download for free anyways.
 

Noid

Platinum Member
Sep 20, 2000
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These are keepers for me.
(from 4.3's)

I never would have thought after all this time that the drivers can still improve...

2k1se - 18388 .... +140 points (click my sig)
2k3 - 5827 .... +87 points

AM3 - 41,275 ... -150 points

Dunno why Aquamark went lower (not much)
 

Nebor

Lifer
Jun 24, 2003
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Originally posted by: MDE
Originally posted by: Noid
Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
OK mde last resort is this
You cant install mmc 8.9 or higher with an nvidia card in. If however you have an ati card in you can.
GO buy an ATI video card install it. Install the MMC you want then go return your ATI card and put your NVidia card back in and you're done. Itll work just fine. The TV app only checks while installing. Nvidia cards display the tv fine. Yes I have done this so I know it works.

WTF ... Thats wrong.
(and you know it)

You can get a MMC install CD from ATi for 10$.
(shipping cost)
It won't install with an Nvidia video card period. I'm not paying for something that I can download for free anyways.

Warez is illegal man.
 

vshah

Lifer
Sep 20, 2003
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Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: Nebor
Does anyone actually do all that uninstall stuff before installing the new ones?

i would hope so

never, and i've never had a problem. on one windows install i've gone nvidia>ati>matrox>ati>nvidia, and nothing happened. o well.

-Vivan
 

DerwenArtos12

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Apr 7, 2003
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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: high
learn how to properly install drivers before you flame. I got a great performance increase in UT2k4 for some reason, excellent driver set!

I followed the instructions on the ATI website... It was actually the uninstalling that got me.

I'll make sure to direct all my tech support questions to you from now on, computer guru.

PS, can I have your babies?

I do know how to install drivers correctly. from about 3.8 up I have been getting ever decreasing stable overclocks.

BTW the jack@$$ part is sarcasm, like I need to blame the gy who posted them for the lack of performance on my machine.
 
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Originally posted by: jiffylube1024
Originally posted by: VIAN
I'm fine here. No crashes, no nothing.

For reference: How to install new ATI drivers.

disable antivirus
uninstall old control panel and do not restart
uninstall old display drivers, select all in uninstall screen, then restart
let windows start up and do its detection thing
disable antivirus
install new drivers, restart

And if you are having random reboots and crashes, make sure your card isn't OC'd.

I also like to run the newest version of Driver Cleaner after the uninstall of the previous drivers, to make sure all the old stuff is gone. It helps tremendously to remove possible conflicts.

Driver Cleaner. Right.

Does anybody here think that maybe, just maybe, there's somebody working for ATi's (and nVidia's) driver teams who suddenly might wake up one day and think:

"Hey it's quite common for people to want to upgrade their drivers, maybe we should write a thorough uninstall utitlity that ACTUALLY F*****G WORKS, especially since we write the drivers so we know what we're putting on our customer's PCs and where we're putting it. Then they won't have to resort to third party utilities. We could even build it into our installers to make upgrading easier."

Maybe.
 

Noid

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Sep 20, 2000
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Actually, their uninstall procedure works good.
(now)

Ever since the 3.9's ... (If I remember correctly) the ATi uninstall has left nothing behind.

The DriverCleaner hasnt removed any files the ATi uninstall system hasnt removed already.
(except for the ATI unzip directory)

I still use DC, only for complete removal.
(for MMC and other DVD software)

On this install ,,, I went over the top install.

No problems.
And nice increased bench numbers.
 

DoobieOnline

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Jan 12, 2001
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I don't know if it's my new X800 Pro or the Cat 4.6's but the image quality in BF Vietnam has definitely improved. I used the same settings that I ran the 9800 Pro with and everything is incredibly sharp - much more so than before. I bumped it up to 1600x1200 last night and was absolutely floored. I can now run everything maxed in Far Cry at 1280x960 and the detail is amazing. It looked good before, but now I spend entirely too much time stopping to look at the details of everything in the game.

Doobie
 

MDE

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: MDE
Originally posted by: Noid
Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
OK mde last resort is this
You cant install mmc 8.9 or higher with an nvidia card in. If however you have an ati card in you can.
GO buy an ATI video card install it. Install the MMC you want then go return your ATI card and put your NVidia card back in and you're done. Itll work just fine. The TV app only checks while installing. Nvidia cards display the tv fine. Yes I have done this so I know it works.

WTF ... Thats wrong.
(and you know it)

You can get a MMC install CD from ATi for 10$.
(shipping cost)
It won't install with an Nvidia video card period. I'm not paying for something that I can download for free anyways.

Warez is illegal man.
I know genius. I'm entitled to a free upgrade to MMC 9. Who the hell would pirate ATI's crappy software anyways?
 

Nebor

Lifer
Jun 24, 2003
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Originally posted by: MDE
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: MDE
Originally posted by: Noid
Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
OK mde last resort is this
You cant install mmc 8.9 or higher with an nvidia card in. If however you have an ati card in you can.
GO buy an ATI video card install it. Install the MMC you want then go return your ATI card and put your NVidia card back in and you're done. Itll work just fine. The TV app only checks while installing. Nvidia cards display the tv fine. Yes I have done this so I know it works.

WTF ... Thats wrong.
(and you know it)

You can get a MMC install CD from ATi for 10$.
(shipping cost)
It won't install with an Nvidia video card period. I'm not paying for something that I can download for free anyways.

Warez is illegal man.
I know genius. I'm entitled to a free upgrade to MMC 9. Who the hell would pirate ATI's crappy software anyways?

Warez is illegal man.
 

Mem

Lifer
Apr 23, 2000
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The DriverCleaner hasnt removed any files the ATi uninstall system hasnt removed already.
(except for the ATI unzip directory)

Don`t forget Driver Cleaner cleans many types of drivers like Nvidia,Creative,SiS etc ....not bad for a third party program,I won`t meantion the service pack cleaner and cab cleaner parts as well .
 

Noid

Platinum Member
Sep 20, 2000
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Originally posted by: Mem
The DriverCleaner hasnt removed any files the ATi uninstall system hasnt removed already.
(except for the ATI unzip directory)

Don`t forget Driver Cleaner cleans many types of drivers like Nvidia,Creative,SiS etc ....not bad for a third party program,I won`t meantion the service pack cleaner and cab cleaner parts as well .


Hey ,,, I'm not dissn the DC.

I just wanted that guy that was complaining about his FUBAR uninstall to know that the ATI uninstall works.

The DC works great.
(Even used it on my Nforce drivers once)
 

BugsBunny1078

Banned
Jan 11, 2004
910
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Originally posted by: Noid
Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
OK mde last resort is this
You cant install mmc 8.9 or higher with an nvidia card in. If however you have an ati card in you can.
GO buy an ATI video card install it. Install the MMC you want then go return your ATI card and put your NVidia card back in and you're done. Itll work just fine. The TV app only checks while installing. Nvidia cards display the tv fine. Yes I have done this so I know it works.

WTF ... Thats wrong.
(and you know it)

You can get a MMC install CD from ATi for 10$.
(shipping cost, ATI proof of ownership required)
It's not wrong. I bought an ATI tv card. Ati put in a detector to block their updated drivers from installing if I have an Nvidia Graphics card.No reason for that other than to screw Nvidia users. Tyhe drivers still work with the Nvidia card as I proved(at least on my system).
The TV card did not have any requiremnt that I had to have an ATI graphics card on the box.
So I certainly would do the same thing over again if I had to. In other words F them they are not F ing me I am F ing them.
 

BFG10K

Lifer
Aug 14, 2000
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Yep, COD is still hardlocking. Also Descent III OpenGL is screwed up like it is in 4.5. On the plus side they've finally fixed the gamma issue after six driver versions.

Also where the hell is that new control panel?
 
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