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KeithTalent

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Originally posted by: honestjohn
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: shabby
All 8 2900ct cf owners will be happy...

Yep! I'm excited. Have not upgraded since 7.6, but I will definitely be grabbing these, though to be honest I don't play any of the games listed. Hopefully they will be improved across the board.

KT

I'm using a single HD 2900 XT and I'm hoping that PC Perspective was wrong about the single card performance. Although I guess my standards are not as high as some others. I play Bioshock with in game settings maxxed at 1680x1050 using 4x AA / 8x AF and I think it runs fine, no lags and very smooth. Never ran FRAPS to see what my actual framerates are though. It's probably better if I don't from what I've read.

Yeah I rarely look at the frames I am actually getting, I just adjust settings until I can play comfortably. If I am getting 45 frames in a game I am playing and someone is else is getting 55 frames at the same settings, well whoop-dee-do. It's not like I feel ripped off for getting 10 less frames or something.

When I get to a point where I need more performance out of my video card (or CPU for that matter) I will upgrade, but everything I currently play runs fine at 1920x1200 with AA and AF; I usually just need to lower the shadows and lighting a bit.

KT
 

cmdrdredd

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Originally posted by: honestjohn
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: shabby
All 8 2900ct cf owners will be happy...

Yep! I'm excited. Have not upgraded since 7.6, but I will definitely be grabbing these, though to be honest I don't play any of the games listed. Hopefully they will be improved across the board.

KT

I'm using a single HD 2900 XT and I'm hoping that PC Perspective was wrong about the single card performance. Although I guess my standards are not as high as some others. I play Bioshock with in game settings maxxed at 1680x1050 using 4x AA / 8x AF and I think it runs fine, no lags and very smooth. Never ran FRAPS to see what my actual framerates are though. It's probably better if I don't from what I've read.

Yeah when I game I don't stare at the FPS. I'm playing...

Exactly like you said it.
 

Bateluer

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Originally posted by: cmdrdredd


works now...they fixed it

Confirmed, DLing it now.


Release Notes

New Features

Catalyst? 7.10 introduces the following new features:

* Adaptive Anti-Aliasing support for the ATI Radeon? X1000 Series of products
* Software CrossFire? support for the ATI Radeon? HD 2600 and ATI Radeon? HD 2400 Series

Adaptive Anti-Aliasing support for the ATI Radeon? X1000 Series of products

This release of Catalyst? introduces Adaptive Anti-Aliasing support for the ATI Radeon? X1000 Series of products. Adaptive Anti-Aliasing substantially improves image quality by anti-aliasing transparent textures.
Software CrossFire? support for the ATI Radeon? HD 2600 and ATI Radeon? HD 2400 Series

This release of Catalyst? introduces software CrossFire? support for the ATI Radeon? HD 2600 Series and ATI Radeon? HD 2400 Series. Software CrossFire? is only available when two graphics accelerators from the same family (i.e. 2 ATI Radeon? HD 2600 products) are plugged into a CrossFire? compatible motherboard with no hardware interconnect between the two graphics accelerators.
Performance Improvements

The following performance improvements are noticed with Catalyst? 7.10:

* Battlefield 2142: CrossFire? performance improves 5-23% on ATI Radeon? HD2600, HD2400 and ATI Radeon? X1300/X1550
* BioShock DX10 CrossFire? performance improves 70% or more on all ATI Radeon? HD2x00 series of products
* Call of Duty 2: performance improves up to 6.7% on both single card and CrossFire? ATI Radeon? HD2600 and ATI Radeon? HD2400 configurations
* Call of Juarez DX10: CrossFire? performance improves up to 42% and single card performance improves up to 34% on all ATI Radeon? HD2x00 series of products
* Company of Heroes DX10 CrossFire? performance improves up to 80% on all ATI Radeon? HD2x00 series of products and single card performance improves as much as 31% on ATI Radeon? HD2900 and ATI Radeon? HD2600 products
* Enemy Territory: Quake Wars CrossFire? performance improves as much as 23% on ATI Radeon? X1x00 series products and single card performance improves as much as 23% on both ATI Radeon? HD2x00 and ATI Radeon? X1x00 series of products
* FEAR CrossFire? performance improves as much as 16% on ATI Radeon? X1950XTX, X1650XT, HD2400 and X1300/X1550
* Lost Planet DX10 CrossFire? performance improves 20% or greater on all ATI Radeon? HD2x00 series of products
* Supreme Commander CrossFire? performance improves up to 30% on all ATI Radeon? HD2x00 and ATI Radeon? X1x00 series products. ATI Radeon? X1650 and X1300/X1550 see even greater improvements of 82% or more
* World In Conflict DX10 CrossFire? performance improves 14-67% or more and single card performance improves 20% or more on ATI Radeon? HD2900XT and ATI Radeon? HD2600 products
* World in Conflict DX9 CrossFire? performance improves up to 70% or more on all ATI Radeon? HD2x00 products

ATI's Folding@Home

Folding@Home is a distributed computing project designed by the Stanford University. The application performs intensive simulations of protein folding. This simulation will help researchers uncover how certain diseases develop. Folding@Home uses distributed computing to simulate protein folding, the workload is broken up into small work units and distributed across hundreds of thousands of computers over the internet. You can help find the cure to many different diseases! To join Folding@Home, follow these steps:

1. Download ATI's Catalyst? software suite
2. Download the Folding@Home GPU client application
Note: If you have an ATI Radeon? X1600, X1800, or X1900 series of product, download the GPU client (either console or GUI version) not to be confused with the CPU "Graphical client". If you do not have an ATI Radeon? product listed above, then download the CPU client.
3. Enter the ATI team number 51394 and start folding!

For more information on Folding@Home visit: http://ati.amd.com/technology/...computing/folding.html
Resolved Issues for the Windows Vista Operating System

This section provides information on resolved issues in this release of the ATI Catalyst? Software Suite for Windows Vista. These include:

* Call of Juarez: Enabling CrossFire? and setting the in-game graphics options to higher settings no longer results in the game failing. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29541
* Call of Juarez: Setting up a multi-player LAN game on a system running Windows Vista and containing an ATI Radeon? HD 2900 series of product no longer results in corruption being noticed 737-29917
* Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter: Pressing the Alt+Tab keys when playing the game no longer results in the Windows Vista operating system failing to respond. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28491
* GTA San Andreas: Enabling AFR mode and CrossFire? no longer results in corruption being noticed in the opening cinematic of the game. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29543
* Might and Magic Heroes V: Display flicker and corruption is no longer noticed when CrossFire? is enabled. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29913
* The composite video slider values are no longer automatically applied without clicking on the Apply button. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28812
* Setting the language option to any of the supported languages other than English no longer results in the help page for Advanced Color failing to be displayed. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28822
* Using live TV on a system containing an ATI HD 2900 XT product and running the Windows Vista operating system no longer results in the application failing if the Catalyst? 7.6 driver is installed. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28823
* A Windows error message no longer occurs when game settings are set to their highest levels. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28830
* Hot-plugging an HDMI display device no longer results in the display device failing to be detected. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29534
* Hot-plugging an HDMI display device to a system that has a CRT connected to it, followed by swapping the display devices no longer results in invalid refresh rates being listed in the Display manager. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29536
* Windows Dream Scene Content: Corruption is no longer noticed when attempting to run the preview for the chosen clips. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28856
* Setting the display resolution to 1600x1200 or less no longer results in corruption being noticed when attempting to play an HD-DVD using the Cyberlink player. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29550
* Playing a HD-DVD or Blu-ray title using PowerDVD followed by rotating the display device by 90 degrees no longer results in the operating system failing to respond. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29552
* Enabling video mode within the Catalyst Control Center->TV Properties->Adjustments no longer results in the Enable Video Mode check box becoming grayed out if the Catalyst Control Center is closed and then restarted. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29920
* Catalyst Control Center->Basic View: Current setting text is no longer misplaced in the Content Viewing Selection for Component Video. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29922
* Catalyst Control Center->HDTV Support->Predefined and Custom HDTV Formats: Selecting a different format and clicking the Apply Format button no longer results in the Add button becoming grayed out. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29924
* The text is no longer truncated in drop down menu of the ATI OverDrive warning pop-up message. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29925
* Clone mode can no longer be enabled for software CrossFire? configurations under Windows XP. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29985
* The Refresh rate for 576i/p is no longer listed erroneously as 20Hz/34Hz in the Catalyst Control Center. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29909
* Hot-plugging an HDMI display device to a system containing an ATI Radeon? Xpress 12x0 series of product no longer results in the HDMI display device failing to be detected under the Windows Vista operating system. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29910
* Chronicles of Riddick: A very dark display image is no longer noticed when playing the game on a system containing an ATI Radeon? X800 series of product and running the Windows Vista operating system. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29911
* All high resolutions are now displayed in the Displays Manager and Catalyst Control Center. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29912
* Corruption is no longer noticed in the ATI Catalyst End User License Agreement when using the Swedish version of the Windows Vista operating system. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29914
* Tearing artifact is no longer visible on OTM display when playing back any video using Overlay with OTM enabled. Further details can be found in topic number 727-29915
* Horizontal line corruption is no longer noticed when AFR mode is enabled and vsync is disabled. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29916
* Attempting to play HD-DVD title on a system containing an ATI Radeon? HD 2600 series of product no longer results in hardware mode not being available for all display resolutions. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29982
* Attempting to playing certain DVD's using WinDVD 7 and enabling hardware acceleration no longer results in the DVD failing to play. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29918

Resolved Issues for the Windows XP Operating System

This section provides information on resolved issues in this release of the ATI Catalyst? Software Suite for Windows XP. These include:

* DIRT: Launching DIRT with CrossFire? enabled no longer results in the game failing to launch and an error message being displayed. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29554
* On certain products playing back VC-1 and H.264 content with display resolution set at 1360x768 or higher no longer results in screen flashing. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28515
* Playing an HD Blu-ray title using Cyberlink PowerDVD 7.3 Ultra for Blu-ray and HD-DVD followed by open multiple windows and moving them around the desktop no longer results in the windows background not being re-drawn properly. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28831
* On certain products playing back VC-1 and H.264 content with display resolution set at 1360x768 or higher no longer results in screen flashing. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28515
* Running Google Earth in OpenGL mode no longer results in corruption being noticed on the desktop and the mouse pointer is moved around. Further details can be found in topic number737-29932
* Stranglehold: Frequent stutters are no longer noticed when using dynamic resources. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29949
* Attempting to play an HD-DVD or Blu-ray title on a system containing an ATI Radeon? HD 2400 series of product no longer results in a VPU Recover occurring when looping the introduction of the title. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29962

Known Issues Under the Windows Vista Operating System

This section provides information on known issues associated with the ATI Catalyst?. These include:

* Bioshock, Lost Planet, and World In Conflict: Connecting certain dual link display devices to certain ATI Radeon 2x00 series of cards may result in limited display resolutions being available. Further details can be found in topic number 737-30090
* Call of Juarez: Enabling CrossFire? may result in flickering being noticed when playing the DX10 version of the game. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29540
* City of Heroes: Attempting to play the game on a system with a dual link panel connected to it may result in the Windows Vista operating system failing to respond. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28495
* Doom 3: Playing the game on a system containing an ATI Radeon? HD 2600 series of product and running the Windows Vista operating system may result in Display corruption being noticed when using the console commands. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29978
* Enemy Territory: Quake Wars: Enabling Super AA and soft particles may result in corruption being noticed in the main menu and through-out game play. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29942
* Fable: A black ring may be seen around the player character. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29939
* Lost Planet: Setting AA to either 4x or 8x may result in the game failing to respond. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28492
* Rainbow Six Vegas: Setting the display resolution to 1600x1200 and applying the in-game settings to high may result in corruption being noticed when using an HDMI display device. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28826
* Serious Sam: the Second Encounter Demo: Game play may appear delayed when playing the game on a system running Windows XP and containing an ATI Radeon? HD 2400 series of product. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29933
* Resuming from an S3 state may result in a longer than expected time for the Windows Vista operating system to resume. Further details can be found in topic number 737-25798
* Catalyst? Control Center->OverDrive?: The OverDrive? setting are not retained for individual accounts. This issue may also be experienced under the Windows Vista operating system. Further details can be found in topic number 737-25805
* The Record function currently fails to work when using an ATI All-In-Wonder X1300 and time shifting is enabled. Further information can be found in topic number 737-22014
* A blank screen may be displayed after unchecking all the Component Video formats except when the 480i30 custom mode is applied. Further details can be found in topic number 737-27620
* A green or black screen may be displayed when configuring MCE to ATSC mode. Further details can be found in topic number 737-27622
* The 3D aspect may appear blank when launching a second instance of the Catalyst? Control Center?. This issue may also be experienced under the Windows XP operating system. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28482
* The Catalyst? Control Center version number may fail to be updated after the installation of a newer Catalyst? Control Center. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28493
* Dragging player window to secondary display while playing back HD content and moving it back to primary may result in blank player window. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28496
* Connecting a secondary display device and enabling CrossFire?, followed by disabling CrossFire? no longer results in CrossFire? pages in the Catalyst? Control Center showing that it is enabled. Further information on this issue may be found in topic number 737-28845
* When running certain OpenGL samples, the ATI Radeon? graphics adapter may not be running at the requested clock values on a CrossFire? configured system. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28824
* The Catalyst? Control Center version number may fail to be updated after the installation of a newer Catalyst? Control Center. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28493
* Setting the display resolution to 1680x1050 and playing either an MPEG 2HDi/p, VC1, or H.264 interlaced content may result in the content not being accelerated and resolution restrictions being applied. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28828
* Performing an express install of the Catalyst Control Center may result in an error message being displayed when rebooting the system. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29532
* Using PowerDVD to playback a Blu-ray title may result in the Windows Vista operating system failing with a 0x000000EA error. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29537
* A black window may be displayed when attempting to play a DVD title using WinDVD 7 when Overlay Theater Mode and clone mode is enabled. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29539
* Enabling extended desktop mode and setting the display resolution to 1280x800 or higher, followed by playing an HD-DVD using PowerDVD, may results in the HD-DVD title failing to play. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29547
* Setting the display resolution to 1680x1050 and playing either an MPEG 2HDi/p, VC1, or H.264 interlaced content may result in the content not being accelerated and resolution restrictions being applied. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28828
* Creating a secondary user account and switching from the secondary user account to the primary user account may result in CrossFire? failing to be enabled. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28786
* Frame flipping may occur while playing certain VC-1 content titles. Further details can be found in topic number 737-27804
* Catalyst Control Center: German character are truncated in the ProfileManager Applications tab. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29930
* A missing Korean character is noticed within the install shield. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29931
* Connecting a secondary display device to a system containing an ATI Radeon? x1200/1250/1270 series of product and enabling clone mode or extended desktop mode may result in horizontal line corruption being noticed when using a high refresh rate and display resolution. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29933
* Catalyst Control Center: An error message may be displayed when clicking on Help. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29934
* Setting the display device to 1600x1200 75Hz may result in the HD DVD playback window appearing blank. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29936
* Roxio Creator Premier v9: MyDVD: Attempting to burn a DVD may result in the burn process failing at the encoding preview. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29937
* A black window may be displayed when attempting to play a DVD title using WinDVD 7 when Overlay Theater Mode and clone mode is enabled. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29539
* The color depth may change to 8 bpp when enabling or disabling CrossFire? for the first time. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29940
* The Catalyst Control Center version number may fail to be updated after the installation of a newer Catalyst Control Center. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28493
* Google Sketchup may fail to pan when AA is enabled on systems containing an ATI Radeon? X1300/1550/1600 series of product. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29941
* Setting the display resolution to either 1776x1024 or 1920x1024 30i may results in the display devices failing to resume from an S3 state. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29944
* Setting the display resolution to 1680x1050 and playing either an MPEG 2HDi/p, VC1, or H.264 interlaced content may result in the content not being accelerated and resolution restrictions being applied. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28828
* Dragging player window to secondary display while playing back HD content and moving it back to primary may result in blank player window. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28496
* Frame flipping may occur while playing certain VC-1 content titles. Further details can be found in topic number 737-27804

Known Issues Under the Windows XP Operating System

The following section provides a summary of open issues in the latest version of Catalyst?. These include:

* City of Heroes: A fatal error message may be displayed when exiting the game and attempting to launch the Catalyst? Control Center? in Advanced mode. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28514
* Enemy Territory: Quake Wars: Corrupting may be noticed with the use of rectangle textures. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29954
* Enemy Territory: Quake Wars may have corruption on the water and sky after increasing the game resolution. Restarting the game at that higher resolution or issuing reloadImages command in the game console corrects the corruption. This issue only impacts graphics cards up to the ATI Radeon? X850. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29947
* Lost Planet: Setting AA to either 4x or 8x may intermittently result in the game failing to respond. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28492
* Star Wars Battlefront 2: Setting the in-game options as follows: Overall Quality to High, View Distance to 99, LOD Distance to 99 and Anti-Aliasing to 6x may result in the game's loading bar reaching the end but the game failing to start. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29946
* Unreal Tournament 2004: Enabling CrossFire? followed by attempting to change the in-game display resolution may result in a loss of vsync. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29950
* Enabling CrossFire? may result in display corruption being noticed when playing a DVD or media clip using either WinDVD 7, Windows Media Player or PowerDVD 6. Further details can be found in topic number 737-22806
* Catalyst? Control Center->OverDrive?: The OverDrive? setting are not retained for individual accounts. This issue may also be experienced under the Windows Vista operating system. Further details can be found in topic number 737-25805
* Connecting two display devices to an ATI Radeon? X1600 series product may result in the device manager failing to detect the secondary display device. Further information may be found in topic number 737-21266
* On certain products, dragging player window from primary to secondary display no longer results in hardware acceleration being disabled which resulted in the CPU usage increasing. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28516
* With some h.264 titles that have MPEG2 introductions; playback may switch from hardware accelerated to software once the introductory content is finished. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28517
* Installing the HDMI audio driver and the VIA audio chipset driver may results in a compatibility issue being noticed and a yellow exclamation mark showing up in the Sound, Video and Game Controllers. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28833
* With some h.264 titles that have MPEG2 intros, playback may switch from hardware accelerated to software once the introductory content is finished. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28517
* Enabling extended desktop mode following by launching the Windows Media Player may result in the player failing to appear on the secondary display device in full screen mode. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29555
* The CrossFire? option found in the Catalyst Control Center may not be available on systems containing an ATI Radeon? X1800 series of product and running the Windows XP operating system. Further details can be found in topic number 737-30010
* Users running Windows XP on a system containing an ATI Radeon? HD 2600 may experience a drop in performance from Single card mode to CrossFire? mode when software CrossFire? is enabled in certain applications. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29980
* Pressing the power button to resume from an S3 state may result in only the mouse cursor being visible and the screen remaining blank until the mouse is moved. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29948
* Installing the HDMI audio driver and the VIA audio chipset driver may results in a compatibility issue being noticed and a yellow exclamation mark showing up in the Sound, Video and Game Controllers. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28833
* Installing the Catalyst Control Center on a previously installed version may results in a warning message that the setup is installing over an earlier version, and that the previous version needs to be uninstalled before installing a more current version, resulting in the Catalyst Control Center failing to be installed. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28513
* Performing a fast user switch when running overfly.exe in Overlay Theater Mode may result in overfly.exe failing when switching back. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29951
* Catalyst Control Center: Configuring a system with multi-adapters may result in an error message being displayed when running the Test Custom Clocks. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29953
* Dragging the WinDVD player from the primary display to the secondary display may result in the player failing to respond. Further, closing the WinDVD player using the Task Manager may result in the operating system failing to respond. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29955
* On certain products, dragging player window from primary to secondary display no longer results in hardware acceleration being disabled which resulted in the CPU usage increasing. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28516
* Enabling extended desktop mode and dragging the PowerDVD window to the secondary display device may result in the PowerDVD window becoming black with only the audio being heard. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29952

 

onlyCOpunk

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Originally posted by: Bateluer
Originally posted by: onlyCOpunk
Now lets just hope that ATI will take care of the rest of their card lines and finally add some flippin AGP support in their new drivers as well.

Why? AGP is dead and should remain in the grave.

Wow you really came through with this comment.

Anyways, has anyone found out if AGP support has been tended to with this driver release?

UPDATE: Installed 7.10 with AGP x1950gt and none of my DirectX games work. DAMN YOU ATI! Back to 7.7 for me.
 

cmdrdredd

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Is it me or did anyone else get a message from Vista x64 about no digitally signed driver when trying to install these Cat 7.10s?

I'm going to try installing again and see.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Snakexor
Originally posted by: honestjohn
Originally posted by: apoppin
AMD did what they had to do ... bring up HD2900xt X-Fire performance to GTS' SLI levels ... but there is no "happiness" with GTS' sli and DX10 games.

Now, IF they can further DOUBLE performance, it might make actually make CrossFire practical for maxed out DX10 games over 16x12 but it is highly doubtful they can achieve that kind of further performance increase ... so for now - i'll keep my money and my clothes on [thankfully] and refrain from dancing in my road.


actually ... that was pretty funny about "sensitive Vinnie" and his disappointing X-fire performance ... and i would have picked a train as i already got hit by a bus in Honolulu and survived

... too bad about my AGP x1950p i sold in June - i haven't heard anything bad yet from my buyer about the drivers

I heard the Catalyst 7.11 The "Do You Feel Lucky Driver" Set is also going to be a good one, so you may need to start working-out for your run down Main Street.

You really got hit by a Bus? How did you survive? Transit or School?

Regarding the X1950 Series. See below. It's an excerpt from the Release Notes. It doesn't affect everyone running XP or Vista Users, but still. .....

7.9 Release Notes:
Caution: Installing the Catalyst software suite 7.8 or 7.9 on a system containing the ATI Radeon? X1950 AGP series of product may result in either the desktop failing to be drawn properly or the operating system failing to boot. It is recommended to continue using Catalyst 7.7 for this product at this time.

blatant trolling

agreed .. you are ... also, Snakexor

7-11 ... lucky ... that is what i said about 7-7 and we know how that turned out [AMD's "vacation" driverset]

yep ... transit ... at a red light in DT Honolulu ... totaled my VW van [and my neck]

bummer on the AGP x1950 series ... but 7.6 is a good driver set ... the problem would be BioShock .. i am not sure you can apply the hotfix on 7.6


i am still interested in X-fire ... but mostly to "try" it [for cheap <$250]

little update ... and sadly OT ,,, but you're my family



i got hit AGAIN - third whiplash from behind stopped at a red light - and the SECOND time at the same signal [as my '01 accident] THIS MORNING on the way to work:

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2106181&enterthread=y

yes ... it is pretty bad ...

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i think you ignore Vista messages about the digital signatures

what is anyone else getting?
 

nullpointerus

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Vista messages and digital signatures? I'm not getting anything in 32-bit Vista, but of course they're only required by 64-bit Vista. I *may* be moving back to 64-bit Vista on Tuesday or Wednesday--all depends on whether my Hauppauge PVR-150 works in the OS. Last I checked, the thing just records some green half-rendered 0.5fps junk in 64-bit Vista.

Too bad about the whiplash! I know this is 20/20 hindsight, but there are some "dangerous" intersections around here that I just try to avoid even if it means a few extra minutes travel time. Unfortunately, one of those intersections is right at the entrance to our housing development, which is off a 55mph highway just around a tight bend. Basically, every time it rains, we hear tires squealing.



Well, they just did work on the road to add some shoulders. The ditches on the side were at least 3 feet deep. There was even a helicopter airlifting someone to a hospital about 2 years ago. (We live way out in the sticks.)
 

Munky

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Catalyst? 7.10 introduces the following new features:
* Adaptive Anti-Aliasing support for the ATI Radeon? X1000 Series of products

Did I miss something? I've been using Adaptive AA on my 1900xt since March 2006, how is this a new feature in these drivers?
 

cmdrdredd

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Originally posted by: nullpointerus
Vista messages and digital signatures? I'm not getting anything in 32-bit Vista, but of course they're only required by 64-bit Vista. I *may* be moving back to 64-bit Vista on Tuesday or Wednesday--all depends on whether my Hauppauge PVR-150 works in the OS. Last I checked, the thing just records some green half-rendered 0.5fps junk in 64-bit Vista.

Too bad about the whiplash! I know this is 20/20 hindsight, but there are some "dangerous" intersections around here that I just try to avoid even if it means a few extra minutes travel time. Unfortunately, one of those intersections is right at the entrance to our housing development, which is off a 55mph highway just around a tight bend. Basically, every time it rains, we hear tires squealing.



Well, they just did work on the road to add some shoulders. The ditches on the side were at least 3 feet deep. There was even a helicopter airlifting someone to a hospital about 2 years ago. (We live way out in the sticks.)

With the full install it gave me an error about trying to install an unsigned driver. The installer finished and then it said I had to reinstall. It didn't work after a second time. I had to download the driver and the control panel seperately and install them as seperate applications. That worked. Strange.
 

Bateluer

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I don't recall Vista64 asking me about installing unsigned drivers . . . I uninstalled the 7.9s using the ATI utility, rebooted, then installed the 7.10s.
 

Sylvanas

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There is a new setting in Adaptive AA which is Method: Super-Sampling or Multi Sampling wonder what the IQ/performance difference is. Some people over at Rage3d getting some really nice 30%+ improvements in Bioshock with single card :beer:
 

Ackmed

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Originally posted by: Snakexor


blatant trolling

Yep, not a thing done about it though. Still there, even after I asked for something to be done.

For the second time in the same thread:
PM the Anandtech Moderator account, or start a thread in "Personal Forum Issues" with your concerns. -Thanks

Anandtech Moderator - KP
 

Oyeve

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Since installing 7.9 drivers for my new 2900Pro I notice a significant XP startup slowdown. Usually after 6 blue lines I would get into my system, now it takes like 20 lines. No big whoop but I wonder if its 7.9 related. I am gonna try the 7.10 and see what happens.
 

nullpointerus

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Originally posted by: Oyeve
Since installing 7.9 drivers for my new 2900Pro I notice a significant XP startup slowdown. Usually after 6 blue lines I would get into my system, now it takes like 20 lines. No big whoop but I wonder if its 7.9 related. I am gonna try the 7.10 and see what happens.
I actually had that problem with various nVidia drivers in XP, but eventually the problem just disappeared.

Did you run a driver cleaner or something to remove the drivers from your previous card? You may want to do the safe mode uninstall/reinstall procedure that is on ATI's support site just to be completely sure.
 

evolucion8

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Originally posted by: onlyCOpunk
Originally posted by: Bateluer
Originally posted by: onlyCOpunk
Now lets just hope that ATI will take care of the rest of their card lines and finally add some flippin AGP support in their new drivers as well.

Why? AGP is dead and should remain in the grave.

Wow you really came through with this comment.

Anyways, has anyone found out if AGP support has been tended to with this driver release?

UPDATE: Installed 7.10 with AGP x1950gt and none of my DirectX games work. DAMN YOU ATI! Back to 7.7 for me.

Weird, they worked fine with my X1950XT AGP card, the 7.8 and 7.9 had issues with X1950 AGP based cards, setting the AGP Aperture Size to 256MB fixed that. And for the troll that said that AGP is dead, he seems to forgot that powerful AGP cards exists, X1950PRO/GT/XT, and now new HD cards like Radeon HD 2600PRO/XT etc. ATi is not like nVidia, ATi cards tends to age better and last longer, ATi simply like to support their customer no matter if it's AGP or PCIe, and both drivers are the same driver, the only thing that changes are some comunication protocols within the driver and the infamous SmartGart. ¬¬
 

Bateluer

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Originally posted by: evolucion8
Originally posted by: onlyCOpunk
Originally posted by: Bateluer
Originally posted by: onlyCOpunk
Now lets just hope that ATI will take care of the rest of their card lines and finally add some flippin AGP support in their new drivers as well.

Why? AGP is dead and should remain in the grave.

Wow you really came through with this comment.

Anyways, has anyone found out if AGP support has been tended to with this driver release?

UPDATE: Installed 7.10 with AGP x1950gt and none of my DirectX games work. DAMN YOU ATI! Back to 7.7 for me.

Weird, they worked fine with my X1950XT AGP card, the 7.8 and 7.9 had issues with X1950 AGP based cards, setting the AGP Aperture Size to 256MB fixed that. And for the troll that said that AGP is dead, he seems to forgot that powerful AGP cards exists, X1950PRO/GT/XT, and now new HD cards like Radeon HD 2600PRO/XT etc. ATi is not like nVidia, ATi cards tends to age better and last longer, ATi simply like to support their customer no matter if it's AGP or PCIe, and both drivers are the same driver, the only thing that changes are some comunication protocols within the driver and the infamous SmartGart. ¬¬

The X1950s are decent cards, but hardly considered powerful. AGP cards today typically come out several months after their PCIe counterparts, at a higher price point and with lower performance their than PCIe counterparts. Very soon, the X1950s will be three generations behind. The 2600s aren't even worth a mention because they're too slow even now.

Calling AGP dead isn't being a troll, its facing a cold reality.

Why people like to cling to obsolete hardware for so long is beyond me. If you can't afford to upgrade, then just come out and say you can't afford it. Don't make up all manner of excuses why the antique is better and that the companies should support them until doomsday.
 

Griswold

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Originally posted by: nullpointerus
Vista messages and digital signatures? I'm not getting anything in 32-bit Vista, but of course they're only required by 64-bit Vista. I *may* be moving back to 64-bit Vista on Tuesday or Wednesday--all depends on whether my Hauppauge PVR-150 works in the OS. Last I checked, the thing just records some green half-rendered 0.5fps junk in 64-bit Vista.

Vista x64 wont let you install unsigned drivers unless you boot up with that function turned off (hit F8 and select the appropriate option, forgot the name), which has to be done on every boot, though.

Way off-topic but I dont care:

As for your PVR-150. You will have that problem under Vista x64 with 4GB RAM. It works just fine with 2GB. Probably some memory mapping problem, it seems it can be circumvented by launching media center immediately after booting.

Hauppauge points at Microsoft and Microsoft points at Hauppauge. I read cards with ATIs Theatre 550 and 650pro chipset are not affected by this.

I also read that many USB webcams are affected by this as well... :roll:

More on the matter (pick one of the many threads about the issue):

Hauppauge UK Forum

 

Duwelon

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Originally posted by: Bateluer
The X1950s are decent cards, but hardly considered powerful. AGP cards today typically come out several months after their PCIe counterparts, at a higher price point and with lower performance their than PCIe counterparts. Very soon, the X1950s will be three generations behind. The 2600s aren't even worth a mention because they're too slow even now.

Calling AGP dead isn't being a troll, its facing a cold reality.

Why people like to cling to obsolete hardware for so long is beyond me. If you can't afford to upgrade, then just come out and say you can't afford it. Don't make up all manner of excuses why the antique is better and that the companies should support them until doomsday.


Wow you must be some kind of 'elite' if you consider a video card that renders Oblivion at 1776 x 1000 (HDTV) with all ingame settings maxed, 4x AA, HDR and a very high res texture pack that weighed 1.67GB total, "hardly powerful".

Nobody has said the "antique is better" as you put it, the truth however is that AGP has plenty of bandwidth for any modern video card you could throw at it. Kudos to ATI for seeing a market there because now I can very happily delay a total rebuild of my rig until at least Nehalem.
 

Bateluer

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Originally posted by: Duwelon

Wow you must be some kind of 'elite' if you consider a video card that renders Oblivion at 1776 x 1000 (HDTV) with all ingame settings maxed, 4x AA, HDR and a very high res texture pack that weighed 1.67GB total, "hardly powerful".

The X1950 Pro is firmly a midrange card.

720p HDTV resolution is 1366x720, 1080p is 1920x1080. Not quite sure where 1776x1000 comes from, but either way, the X1950 can't render Oblivion at those high resolutions with those settings. I had a X1900XT which was actually faster than a PCIe 1950 Pro which was slightly faster than an AGP 1950pro. It only boasted around 25 to 35 FPS in outdoor enviroments in Oblivion at 1680x1050 with 4x AA, HDR, and full detail settings. Barely playable.

My current HD 2900XT performed higher, allowing me to up the resolution and detail settings some more. Getting playable FPS at 1920x1200 with 12x AA and HDR. Luckily Oblivion doesn't require super fast frames.
 
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