Catalyst 7.10 Driver

[honestjohn]

Benched:

http://pcper.com/article.php?type=expert&aid=463

 

[shabby]

All 8 2900ct cf owners will be happy...

 

[SniperDaws]

Originally posted by: shabby
All 8 2900ct cf owners will be happy...

Not if they are playing World in Conflict

 

[honestjohn]

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[40sTheme]

Originally posted by: honestjohn

Originally posted by: shabby
All 8 2900ct cf owners will be happy...

Sorry it's only 7 now, Vinnie was hit by a bus yesterday....

For real?

 

[Sylvanas]

Interesting results- good to see overall continuing improvements- They did not state if they used the new patch for WiC that supposedly greatly improves DX10 performance on 2900's it would be good to see that + this driver.

 

[honestjohn]

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[Sylvanas]

Interesting post over at Rage3d

Originally Posted by Dave Baumann
With regards to DX10 changes, these are not app specific changes - the titles listed are just what is now scripted in the automatic benchmark runs in the performance lab.

For DX10 this release primarily does two things: This is the first change that we've made to the base DX10 driver to improve performance; you may see different results in more DX10 titles than those listed here. Secondly, Crossfire for DX10 was working only in app-profiled manner previously (with only a few apps in place), how we have implemented the "app-compatible AFR" mode in the DX10 driver.

So this is only the first crack at improving DX10 performance which is a great start and bodes well for the future especially since these are not game specific optimizations but optimizations to the base DX10 code.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: honestjohn
Well it looks like good news for 2900 Series Crossfire Users anyway .....

http://pcper.com/article.php?type=expert&aid=463

What to now have 10 FPS as the minimum instead of 5?

*none* of these new DX10 games are playable on any SLI or X-Fire rig @19x12 with everything maxed plus 4xAA/16xAF ... look at the pathetic minimum frame rates. ... even with GTX SLI - best results- there are only a couple of games that manage a 32FPS as the minimum; the majority are in single digits to 20s - certainly not satisfactory for a demanding gamer.

so your are bound to be pretty annoyed if you are a SLI'd Ultra owner still having to chose between AA and 'details' for playable FPS.

for me ... Forget Xfire [or sli] ... i don't need any more then my current setup for totally maxed out DX9 @16x10 ... and another 2900xt would be a complete waste as DX10 games would still bog.

so ... i will be content with DX9c ... for now
... and that i guessed right that AMD *had* to bring CrossFire scaling up to the GTS standards .... that was a very recent prediction.
--And they will get better at it ... probably next gen is for me ... or not ...

 

[ronnn]

Would have been better to bench these cards using playable settings at the appropriate resolution. Low fps means nothing to me.

 

[onlyCOpunk]

Now lets just hope that ATI will take care of the rest of their card lines and finally add some flippin AGP support in their new drivers as well.

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: onlyCOpunk
Now lets just hope that ATI will take care of the rest of their card lines and finally add some flippin AGP support in their new drivers as well.

Why? AGP is dead and should remain in the grave.

 

[AzN]

It would be so much easier if everything was legacy supported. But you know these PC companies want you to change your components every 6 months.

 

[Ackmed]

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[honestjohn]

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[BFG10K]

Yeah, I can't believe he's gone. Yesterday he used FRAPS for the first time on his Crossfire setup and an hour later he just threw himself under a Greyhound over on 42nd st. The Dude had performance issues, at least that's what his wife told me.

Is this a joke or something?

 

[honestjohn]

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[honestjohn]

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[apoppin]

Originally posted by: honestjohn

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: honestjohn
Well it looks like good news for 2900 Series Crossfire Users anyway .....

http://pcper.com/article.php?type=expert&aid=463

What to now have 10 FPS as the minimum instead of 5?

*none* of these new DX10 games are playable on any SLI or X-Fire rig @19x12 with everything maxed plus 4xAA/16xAF ... look at the pathetic minimum frame rates. ... even with GTX SLI - best results- there are only a couple of games that manage a 32FPS as the minimum; the majority are in single digits to 20s - certainly not satisfactory for a demanding gamer.

so your are bound to be pretty annoyed if you are a SLI'd Ultra owner still having to chose between AA and 'details' for playable FPS.

for me ... Forget Xfire [or sli] ... i don't need any more then my current setup for totally maxed out DX9 @16x10 ... and another 2900xt would be a complete waste as DX10 games would still bog.

so ... i will be content with DX9c ... for now
... and that i guessed right that AMD *had* to bring CrossFire scaling up to the GTS standards .... that was a very recent prediction.
--And they will get better at it ... probably next gen is for me ... or not ...

Dude, I didn't say Crossfire users would be doing cart-wheels and dancing naked in the streets. It was simply a comparison to single card performance which show's zero improvement.

AMD did what they had to do ... bring up HD2900xt X-Fire performance to GTS' SLI levels ... but there is no "happiness" with GTS' sli and DX10 games.

Now, IF they can further DOUBLE performance, it might make actually make CrossFire practical for maxed out DX10 games over 16x12 but it is highly doubtful they can achieve that kind of further performance increase ... so for now - i'll keep my money and my clothes on [thankfully] and refrain from dancing in my road.


actually ... that was pretty funny about "sensitive Vinnie" and his disappointing X-fire performance ... and i would have picked a train as i already got hit by a bus in Honolulu and survived

... too bad about my AGP x1950p i sold in June - i haven't heard anything bad yet from my buyer about the drivers

 

[honestjohn]

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[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: shabby
All 8 2900ct cf owners will be happy...

Yep! I'm excited. Have not upgraded since 7.6, but I will definitely be grabbing these, though to be honest I don't play any of the games listed. Hopefully they will be improved across the board.

KT

 

[Snakexor]

Originally posted by: honestjohn

Originally posted by: apoppin
AMD did what they had to do ... bring up HD2900xt X-Fire performance to GTS' SLI levels ... but there is no "happiness" with GTS' sli and DX10 games.

Now, IF they can further DOUBLE performance, it might make actually make CrossFire practical for maxed out DX10 games over 16x12 but it is highly doubtful they can achieve that kind of further performance increase ... so for now - i'll keep my money and my clothes on [thankfully] and refrain from dancing in my road.


actually ... that was pretty funny about "sensitive Vinnie" and his disappointing X-fire performance ... and i would have picked a train as i already got hit by a bus in Honolulu and survived

... too bad about my AGP x1950p i sold in June - i haven't heard anything bad yet from my buyer about the drivers

I heard the Catalyst 7.11 The "Do You Feel Lucky Driver" Set is also going to be a good one, so you may need to start working-out for your run down Main Street.

You really got hit by a Bus? How did you survive? Transit or School?

Regarding the X1950 Series. See below. It's an excerpt from the Release Notes. It doesn't affect everyone running XP or Vista Users, but still. .....

7.9 Release Notes:
Caution: Installing the Catalyst software suite 7.8 or 7.9 on a system containing the ATI Radeon? X1950 AGP series of product may result in either the desktop failing to be drawn properly or the operating system failing to boot. It is recommended to continue using Catalyst 7.7 for this product at this time.

blatant trolling

 

[honestjohn]

Originally posted by: Snakexor

Originally posted by: honestjohn

Originally posted by: apoppin
AMD did what they had to do ... bring up HD2900xt X-Fire performance to GTS' SLI levels ... but there is no "happiness" with GTS' sli and DX10 games.

Now, IF they can further DOUBLE performance, it might make actually make CrossFire practical for maxed out DX10 games over 16x12 but it is highly doubtful they can achieve that kind of further performance increase ... so for now - i'll keep my money and my clothes on [thankfully] and refrain from dancing in my road.


actually ... that was pretty funny about "sensitive Vinnie" and his disappointing X-fire performance ... and i would have picked a train as i already got hit by a bus in Honolulu and survived

... too bad about my AGP x1950p i sold in June - i haven't heard anything bad yet from my buyer about the drivers

I heard the Catalyst 7.11 The "Do You Feel Lucky Driver" Set is also going to be a good one, so you may need to start working-out for your run down Main Street.

You really got hit by a Bus? How did you survive? Transit or School?

Regarding the X1950 Series. See below. It's an excerpt from the Release Notes. It doesn't affect everyone running XP or Vista Users, but still. .....

7.9 Release Notes:
Caution: Installing the Catalyst software suite 7.8 or 7.9 on a system containing the ATI Radeon? X1950 AGP series of product may result in either the desktop failing to be drawn properly or the operating system failing to boot. It is recommended to continue using Catalyst 7.7 for this product at this time.

blatant trolling

Well that's' a first for me. Blatant Trolling?? Please explain how I'm trolling the thread I started in the first place?? The first thing I said was obviously a joke about Cat.7.11 which no one has even heard of and in reference to something apoppin said, the second was a serious question to apoppin about his bus accident, and the third thing I said was also in response to something apoppin had mentioned regarding the X1950 Pro he sold and the drivers. I hate trolls by the way and wasn't baiting anyone.

Troll: An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who intentionally posts controversial or contrary messages in an on-line community such as an on-line discussion forum with the intention of baiting users into an argumentative response.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Snakexor

Originally posted by: honestjohn

Originally posted by: apoppin
AMD did what they had to do ... bring up HD2900xt X-Fire performance to GTS' SLI levels ... but there is no "happiness" with GTS' sli and DX10 games.

Now, IF they can further DOUBLE performance, it might make actually make CrossFire practical for maxed out DX10 games over 16x12 but it is highly doubtful they can achieve that kind of further performance increase ... so for now - i'll keep my money and my clothes on [thankfully] and refrain from dancing in my road.


actually ... that was pretty funny about "sensitive Vinnie" and his disappointing X-fire performance ... and i would have picked a train as i already got hit by a bus in Honolulu and survived

... too bad about my AGP x1950p i sold in June - i haven't heard anything bad yet from my buyer about the drivers

I heard the Catalyst 7.11 The "Do You Feel Lucky Driver" Set is also going to be a good one, so you may need to start working-out for your run down Main Street.

You really got hit by a Bus? How did you survive? Transit or School?

Regarding the X1950 Series. See below. It's an excerpt from the Release Notes. It doesn't affect everyone running XP or Vista Users, but still. .....

7.9 Release Notes:
Caution: Installing the Catalyst software suite 7.8 or 7.9 on a system containing the ATI Radeon? X1950 AGP series of product may result in either the desktop failing to be drawn properly or the operating system failing to boot. It is recommended to continue using Catalyst 7.7 for this product at this time.

blatant trolling

agreed .. you are ... also, Snakexor

7-11 ... lucky ... that is what i said about 7-7 and we know how that turned out [AMD's "vacation" driverset]

yep ... transit ... at a red light in DT Honolulu ... totaled my VW van [and my neck]

bummer on the AGP x1950 series ... but 7.6 is a good driver set ... the problem would be BioShock .. i am not sure you can apply the hotfix on 7.6


i am still interested in X-fire ... but mostly to "try" it [for cheap <$250]

 

[honestjohn]

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