Catalyst 8.3 Preview

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Catalyst v8.3 driver suite will officially support three and four GPU CrossFireX configurations. You may have heard some scuttlebutt over the last few weeks stating that CrossFire works with some mismatched GPUs as well, which is actually the case. AMD's new Catalyst v8.3 drivers will let users match up Radeon HD 3870 X2 cards, with standard 3870s and even the 3850 - basically any RV670 / R680 combo will work. This is interesting because it adds some level of flexibility to end-users looking to take advantage of a multi-GPU setup. Three-way CrossFireX configuration can consist of three Radeon HD 3870 cards, or a single 3870 X2 and single 3870, for example, or any other combo of HD 3800 series cards. And four-way CrossFireX can be achieved with a pair of Radeon 3870 X2 cards, or four standard 3870s, etc. We should note, however, that three and four-GPU CrossFireX is only supported under Windows Vista and only with DirectX 9 and some DirectX 10 titles at this time. Full Support for DirectX 10 (with four GPU scaling) and OpenGL will come at a later time, although Call of Juarez happens to be one DX10 game that does scale currently with four GPUs. Also note, two card CrossFire is obviously still supported in XP; it's just the three and four GPU setups that are exclusive to Vista.


Hybrid CrossFire will also be officially supported in the Catalyst v8.3 release. As we outlined in our initial coverage of the technology, Hybrid CrossFire gives users the ability to pair an RS780G IGP with a discreet Radeon HD 3400 series graphics card for increased performance or low-power operation
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Catalyst v8.3 drivers brings added flexibility to multi-monitor users under Windows Vista. In the past, users were required to disable CrossFire to watch certain types of video or to utilize additional monitors. But with the Catalyst v8.3 release, that is no longer the case. With cards from the X1800 series on up to today?s HD 3000 series, utilizing an extended desktop in a multi-monitor configuration does not require CrossFire to be disabled.

Also new to the Catalyst v8.3 release is official support at the software level for DirectX 10.1 and the hardware tessellator built into the RV670 GPU. Although support for DX10.1 and hardware tessellation was available in hardware, the software mechanisms necessary to expose the functionality had not been incorporated into ATI?s drivers until now.

The Catalyst v8.3 driver suite will also feature a couple of new anti-aliasing modes. New to Catalyst v8.3 will be support for anti-aliasing in Unreal Engine 3 powered games and new edge-detection algorithms that work in conjunction with the Super-AA modes available with CrossFireX.

bring it on
 

SlowSpyder

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I've used Nvidia cards for years, this is my first ATI card in a long time. It seems like ATI releases drivers more often then Nvidia, which is quite nice. Either that or I just didn't pay as much attention to Nvidia's driver releases. Am I imagining this, or does ATI update drivers more often then Nvidia?
 

Ackmed

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Very nice. The flexibility ATi's drivers have for multi cards is great. AA in U3 engine games is nice too.
 

taltamir

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ATI seems to have switched gears into providing higher quality drivers out of necessity and lack of performance on their hardware. Drivers cost a lot less to improve then hardware, while they have an overall lesser improvement on performance, their performance per cost is better, and is in fact, great. Drivers also greatly improve the user experience.
More companies should focus on providing quality drivers.

This is one thing they are definitely doing right.
 

BoboKatt

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ok can someone dumb it down for me...

in WIndows XP if I try to run my 3870 X2 with a 3870 this would make it "three" cards and from what I read above... in XP this will NOT work (limited to 2 cards only) and would work only in Vista as it support 3 and 4? Or am I reading this wrong.

The X2 and one more card (any card) is considered 3 cards or are they talking about 3 actual PCIe slots?
 

SlowSpyder

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Originally posted by: BoboKatt
ok can someone dumb it down for me...

in WIndows XP if I try to run my 3870 X2 with a 3870 this would make it "three" cards and from what I read above... in XP this will NOT work (limited to 2 cards only) and would work only in Vista as it support 3 and 4? Or am I reading this wrong.

The X2 and one more card (any card) is considered 3 cards or are they talking about 3 actual PCIe slots?

It says you can do any combination. 2 x 3870x2's, 4 x 3870, 1 x 3870 + 1 x 3870x2, or 3x3870's. So, depending on what configuration you'd need 2,3, or 4 PCIe slots.
 

Tempered81

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Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
Originally posted by: BoboKatt
ok can someone dumb it down for me...

in WIndows XP if I try to run my 3870 X2 with a 3870 this would make it "three" cards and from what I read above... in XP this will NOT work (limited to 2 cards only) and would work only in Vista as it support 3 and 4? Or am I reading this wrong.

The X2 and one more card (any card) is considered 3 cards or are they talking about 3 actual PCIe slots?

It says you can do any combination. 2 x 3870x2's, 4 x 3870, 1 x 3870 + 1 x 3870x2, or 3x3870's. So, depending on what configuration you'd need 2,3, or 4 PCIe slots.

can you do 4x3870X2's?
 

SlowSpyder

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Originally posted by: jaredpace
Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
Originally posted by: BoboKatt
ok can someone dumb it down for me...

in WIndows XP if I try to run my 3870 X2 with a 3870 this would make it "three" cards and from what I read above... in XP this will NOT work (limited to 2 cards only) and would work only in Vista as it support 3 and 4? Or am I reading this wrong.

The X2 and one more card (any card) is considered 3 cards or are they talking about 3 actual PCIe slots?

It says you can do any combination. 2 x 3870x2's, 4 x 3870, 1 x 3870 + 1 x 3870x2, or 3x3870's. So, depending on what configuration you'd need 2,3, or 4 PCIe slots.

can you do 4x3870X2's?

I don't think so... I thought I read somewhere that the x2's only have a single xfire connector, so only two can be attached together...?
 

Tempered81

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do the HD 3870's have 2 crossfire connectors? he is quoted saying "or 3x3870's" above. Also, I've heard you can do x-fire without the dongle/bridge thing. "software xfire" i think they call it.
 

taltamir

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forget connectors, where are you gonna find drivers for it? crossfire X is limited to 4 GPUs at the moment, this might change later, but it is the case right now.
 

Sylvanas

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Wow sick thats a hell of alot of features too many to list and drool over! I cannot wait to try these drivers. Good job AMD/ATI.
 

daveybrat

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Some really nice features in these. Curious as to any performance gains they may have.
 

Auric

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Notice the new aspect ratio scaling? That's the biggest news as far as I'm concerned. As said at rage3d, it's at least five years overdue.
 

ttnuagadam

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hopefully multi-monitor support will be better, nvidia and ati both have been lacking in this department
 

BFG10K

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Notice the new aspect ratio scaling? That's the biggest news as far as I'm concerned. As said at rage3d, it's at least five years overdue.
Aye, I can't believe it's taken that long. They've also dragged their heels into getting AA into UT3 based games.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: BFG10K
Notice the new aspect ratio scaling? That's the biggest news as far as I'm concerned. As said at rage3d, it's at least five years overdue.
Aye, I can't believe it's taken that long. They've also dragged their heels into getting AA into UT3 based games.

it's never fast enough for you ... wait a minute ... are you waiting for AMD to write drivers for your Ultra?

--i think is *prioritized* immediately after AMD writes working drivers for linux.

Better late than never ... i think that last year they were just concerned with their own *survival*
.. and before ... in the past .. i think ATi used to use too much pot.


just kidding ...


 
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