Catholic Church, founded by Jesus

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Slick5150

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Originally posted by: Krk3561
I'm fvcking Jewish and even I know this.

Originally posted by: Krk3561
Where did you hear this from, or did you make it up? I just graduated Valedictorian of 525 kids from a Catholic high school yesturday.

Uhh, wha?
 

KC5AV

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Josephus mentions Jesus as a historical figure in Antiquities, which was written sometime around the year 90. That is hardly 2 generations after Jesus supposedly lived.

The belief among Catholics is that Jesus commissioned Peter as the first Pope, and that was the beginning of the RCC.
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: Slick5150
Originally posted by: Krk3561
I'm fvcking Jewish and even I know this.

Originally posted by: Krk3561
Where did you hear this from, or did you make it up? I just graduated Valedictorian of 525 kids from a Catholic high school yesturday.

Uhh, wha?

I know this sounds crazy...but not everyone going to a private religious school belongs to that religion.
 

dornick

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Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: Slick5150
Originally posted by: Krk3561
I'm fvcking Jewish and even I know this.

Originally posted by: Krk3561
Where did you hear this from, or did you make it up? I just graduated Valedictorian of 525 kids from a Catholic high school yesturday.

Uhh, wha?

I know this sounds crazy...but not everyone going to a private religious school belongs to that religion.

Example: Notre Dame
 

TheLonelyPhoenix

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The Catholic Church wasn't "founded" by Jesus, Jesus established Christianity.

Then, in about 600 A.D., the Bishop of Rome broke off his little "section" of the religion and called it the Catholic Church, and started calling himself the Pope.

Orthodox Christianity is the closest form of Christianity to what really existed after Christ said "Go forth and preach to all nations".
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: KC5AV
Josephus mentions Jesus as a historical figure in Antiquities, which was written sometime around the year 90. That is hardly 2 generations after Jesus supposedly lived.

The belief among Catholics is that Jesus commissioned Peter as the first Pope, and that was the beginning of the RCC.

With the average life span of 30, 90 years is a LONG time.

 

Yaotl

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Originally posted by: KC5AV
Josephus mentions Jesus as a historical figure in Antiquities, which was written sometime around the year 90. That is hardly 2 generations after Jesus supposedly lived.

The belief among Catholics is that Jesus commissioned Peter as the first Pope, and that was the beginning of the RCC.

He's the only one that really mentions him.
 

J Heartless Slick

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Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
The Catholic Church wasn't "founded" by Jesus, Jesus established Christianity.

Then, in about 600 A.D., the Bishop of Rome broke off his little "section" of the religion and called it the Catholic Church, and started calling himself the Pope.

Orthodox Christianity is the closest form of Christianity to what really existed after Christ said "Go forth and preach to all nations".

Jesus did not establish Christianity. He was Jewish and died a Jew. He did not mention starting a new faith.
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: Krk3561
Originally posted by: Horus
WRAONG!

Roman Catholics believe in the Holy Trinity. Father(God), Son(Jesus) and Holy Ghost(Holy Spirit).

Peter(one of the 12 Diciples) was the first one to actively preach the teachings of Jesus. Jesus did NOT found the R.C. faith, he is one of the cornerstones of it.

Where did you hear this from, or did you make it up? I just graduated Valedictorian of 525 kids from a Catholic high school yesturday.


that just proves you were indoctrinated.

Jesus and Peter had NOTHING to do with the Catholic Church.

the concept of "Church" as used by the New Testament is ENTIRELY different from the concept of the word "Church" as used today.

The ROMAN CATHOLIC church was founded by CONSTANTINE (hence ROMAN CATHOLIC).

Jesus never founded a single church. again, the word "CHURCH" wasn't even known at the time of Christ.

the word e????s?a (Transliterated Ekklesia)

"We find the word ecclesia used in the following senses in the
New Testament: (1.) It is translated "assembly" in the ordinary classical sense
(Acts 19:32, 39, 41). " (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=church)

to go from "assembly" as in an assembly of people with a common belief to what the Catholic church as become today is a stretch.

the concept of church evolved over many years.


 

FoBoT

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Originally posted by: J Heartless Slick
Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
The Catholic Church wasn't "founded" by Jesus, Jesus established Christianity.

Then, in about 600 A.D., the Bishop of Rome broke off his little "section" of the religion and called it the Catholic Church, and started calling himself the Pope.

Orthodox Christianity is the closest form of Christianity to what really existed after Christ said "Go forth and preach to all nations".

Jesus did not establish Christianity. He was Jewish and died a Jew. He did not mention starting a new faith.

didn't he sorta mention he was the messiah that was prophesied? are you saying everybody else asssumed that , but he didn't say he was the messiah?
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: J Heartless Slick
Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
The Catholic Church wasn't "founded" by Jesus, Jesus established Christianity.

Then, in about 600 A.D., the Bishop of Rome broke off his little "section" of the religion and called it the Catholic Church, and started calling himself the Pope.

Orthodox Christianity is the closest form of Christianity to what really existed after Christ said "Go forth and preach to all nations".

Jesus did not establish Christianity. He was Jewish and died a Jew. He did not mention starting a new faith.

ROFL! Jews don't even believe he was the Messiah! :laugh:MFAO!

Great response. Comedy gold.

Anyway, Jesus completely ripped apart the Jewish "faith" because it wasn't faith at all. It was nothing but rule after rule after rule. Sounds kinda like the Catholic church, doesn't it.
 

exilera

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Originally posted by: Krk3561
Originally posted by: Nimloth
Originally posted by: Krk3561
Originally posted by: Nimloth
um... wrong? Saint Paul established Catholic church

oh and btw..

P&N!

Can you prove that to me? Or did you accept that "fact" for face value?

ok, can you prove that Jesus even existed?

owned?

Yea, he is a historical figure and there is plenty of evidence of his existence. That does not mean that he was the fully divine, fully human being that Christians believe in, but you have to be an idiot to not believe he existed.

You sir, are an idiot. You can't prove Jesus existed. You can't prove God exists. You can prove nothing, so stop spouting your ignorant BS.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: J Heartless Slick
Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
The Catholic Church wasn't "founded" by Jesus, Jesus established Christianity.

Then, in about 600 A.D., the Bishop of Rome broke off his little "section" of the religion and called it the Catholic Church, and started calling himself the Pope.

Orthodox Christianity is the closest form of Christianity to what really existed after Christ said "Go forth and preach to all nations".

Jesus did not establish Christianity. He was Jewish and died a Jew. He did not mention starting a new faith.


ROFL! Jews don't even believe he was the Messiah! :laugh:MFAO!

Great response. Comedy gold.

Anyway, Jesus completely ripped apart the Jewish "faith" because it wasn't faith at all. It was nothing but rule after rule after rule. Sounds kinda like the Catholic church, doesn't it.

Actually, if you ignore all the Paulism at the end of the NT, it merely looks like Jesus was attempting to reform Judaism. It isn't until the RCC's addition of Paul at the end that "christianity" is born.

In fact, it has always been my belief that Christianity should really be called "Paulism."
 

squeeg22

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This thread is great. It is the closest thing ATOT has to magic. People pulling strange sh!t out of thin air in an attempt to impress and wow everybody.
 

exilera

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Originally posted by: Krk3561
Originally posted by: Horus
WRAONG!

Roman Catholics believe in the Holy Trinity. Father(God), Son(Jesus) and Holy Ghost(Holy Spirit).

Peter(one of the 12 Diciples) was the first one to actively preach the teachings of Jesus. Jesus did NOT found the R.C. faith, he is one of the cornerstones of it.

Where did you hear this from, or did you make it up? I just graduated Valedictorian of 525 kids from a Catholic high school yesturday.

Sorry to hear you wasted 4 years of your life.
 

exilera

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Originally posted by: Krk3561
Originally posted by: Horus
WRAONG!

Roman Catholics believe in the Holy Trinity. Father(God), Son(Jesus) and Holy Ghost(Holy Spirit).

Peter(one of the 12 Diciples) was the first one to actively preach the teachings of Jesus. Jesus did NOT found the R.C. faith, he is one of the cornerstones of it.

Where did you hear this from, or did you make it up? I just graduated Valedictorian of 525 kids from a Catholic high school yesturday.

Quote from Krk3561: "I'm fvcking Jewish and even I know this."

SHENS you hypocritical poser.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: exilera
Originally posted by: Krk3561
Originally posted by: Horus
WRAONG!

Roman Catholics believe in the Holy Trinity. Father(God), Son(Jesus) and Holy Ghost(Holy Spirit).

Peter(one of the 12 Diciples) was the first one to actively preach the teachings of Jesus. Jesus did NOT found the R.C. faith, he is one of the cornerstones of it.

Where did you hear this from, or did you make it up? I just graduated Valedictorian of 525 kids from a Catholic high school yesturday.

Quote from Krk3561: "I'm fvcking Jewish and even I know this."

SHENS you hypocritical poser.

Many non-Catholics send their kids to Catholic schools merely because they are often the best local private schools to be found.
 

exilera

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: exilera
Originally posted by: Krk3561
Originally posted by: Horus
WRAONG!

Roman Catholics believe in the Holy Trinity. Father(God), Son(Jesus) and Holy Ghost(Holy Spirit).

Peter(one of the 12 Diciples) was the first one to actively preach the teachings of Jesus. Jesus did NOT found the R.C. faith, he is one of the cornerstones of it.

Where did you hear this from, or did you make it up? I just graduated Valedictorian of 525 kids from a Catholic high school yesturday.

Quote from Krk3561: "I'm fvcking Jewish and even I know this."

SHENS you hypocritical poser.

Many non-Catholics send their kids to Catholic schools merely because they are often the best local private schools to be found.

I think that would result in some severely confused kids. Case and point.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: exilera
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: exilera
Originally posted by: Krk3561
Originally posted by: Horus
WRAONG!

Roman Catholics believe in the Holy Trinity. Father(God), Son(Jesus) and Holy Ghost(Holy Spirit).

Peter(one of the 12 Diciples) was the first one to actively preach the teachings of Jesus. Jesus did NOT found the R.C. faith, he is one of the cornerstones of it.

Where did you hear this from, or did you make it up? I just graduated Valedictorian of 525 kids from a Catholic high school yesturday.

Quote from Krk3561: "I'm fvcking Jewish and even I know this."

SHENS you hypocritical poser.

Many non-Catholics send their kids to Catholic schools merely because they are often the best local private schools to be found.

I think that would result in some severely confused kids. Case and point.

You'll get no argument from me. I was just pointing out a fact.
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: exilera
I think that would result in some severely confused kids. Case and point.

You'll get no argument from me. I was just pointing out a fact.

Like all the public school kids are just as with it?
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: exilera
I think that would result in some severely confused kids. Case and point.

You'll get no argument from me. I was just pointing out a fact.

Like all the public school kids are just as with it?

I never said that. I was agreeing that raising a kid with one religion, while sending him to a school who's main mission is to indoctrinate them into their own religion can cause some serious confusion.
 

Krk3561

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: exilera
Originally posted by: Krk3561
Originally posted by: Horus
WRAONG!

Roman Catholics believe in the Holy Trinity. Father(God), Son(Jesus) and Holy Ghost(Holy Spirit).

Peter(one of the 12 Diciples) was the first one to actively preach the teachings of Jesus. Jesus did NOT found the R.C. faith, he is one of the cornerstones of it.

Where did you hear this from, or did you make it up? I just graduated Valedictorian of 525 kids from a Catholic high school yesturday.

Quote from Krk3561: "I'm fvcking Jewish and even I know this."

SHENS you hypocritical poser.

Many non-Catholics send their kids to Catholic schools merely because they are often the best local private schools to be found.

A large portion of my school is not Catholic, we have a lot of protestants and a few Jews too.

What wrong with an education in academics along with morality and ethics too?

The school understands that and Catholicism isnt forced down anyones throat, but it is a Catholic school so it is still there. In fact, my theology class that i was taking was World Religions, and we learned about how every religion hold truths and reveals some aspect of God.

My school is #3 on this list:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/m...e/05/11/top.high.school0516/index.html
 

Krk3561

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: exilera
I think that would result in some severely confused kids. Case and point.

You'll get no argument from me. I was just pointing out a fact.

Like all the public school kids are just as with it?

I never said that. I was agreeing that raising a kid with one religion, while sending him to a school who's main mission is to indoctrinate them into their own religion can cause some serious confusion.

Well, I think I'm intelligent enough to decide my own beliefs, thank you very much!
 
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