Cayman XT photo leak

[dug777]

Thats a pretty beefy looking VRM line-up...

Two-six-pins as well.

Doesn't my 5850 just have two six-pins?

Hopefully indicative of a beast in terms of performance

 

[HurleyBird]

Two six pin connectors? Hopefully a safe assumption that AMD isn't going to go backwards in perf/watt, which is hinting at very good performance from barts then.

Although... this is an engineering sample so retail may go back to 1 six pin. Unlikely though.

 

[Grooveriding]

Two six pin connectors? Hopefully a safe assumption that AMD isn't going to go backwards in perf/watt, which is hinting at very good performance from barts then.

Although... this is an engineering sample so retail may go back to 1 six pin. Unlikely though.

With the 8+6pin on 6970, and 6+6 pin on the 6870(6770) I get the feeling AMD is going to be going up a notch in power consumption and heat with these new cards.

Same process, bigger die, beastly performance and more heat.

As I said in another thread, what will make the 6 series flagship single-gpu a real home-run is if it delivers that 30-40% performance lead over a GTX 480, but actually runs cooler and uses less power.

Now that would be impressive.

 

[MrK6]

To be honest, I think AMD is usually very conservative with it's power circuitry, as in it's overly beefy for its intention, but then that makes for pisser overclocking. I hope they maintain their excellent performance/watt ratio, and in that case the two PCIe connectors are a welcome sight to an overclocker .

 

[AtenRa]

I believe this is a 67xx card that will have 30% more performance than 5770 with 1.5bil transistors and ~250-260mm2. HD6750 will have the same performance with GTX460 1G (Between 5830 and 5850) and 6770 will be between 5850 and 5870. Price at $200-250.

 

[TurtleCrusher]

I has an excite!

 

[Troll Trolling]

Kinda makes sense for me:

(I think) Bart is coming earlier than Cayman because of the availability of the new GDDR5+ memory.
But it also means they will be stuck with it, meaning that when the GDDR5+ availability broadens, they will still have to use the probably more expensive combination of 256 bits + old GDDR5.

To keep this post aligned with my name, I ought troll, therefore, I do:
AMD having to use 256 bits in a NEW GENERATION to compete with nVidia's old one? HA! They've achieved to surpass the highest level of incompetence known to man.

 

[HurleyBird]

Kinda makes sense for me:

(I think) Bart is coming earlier than Cayman because of the availability of the new GDDR5+ memory.

Now there's an interesting theory. Makes sense, and same thing happened before when 4850 launched before 4870.

 

[Caribbean Geek]

Kinda makes sense for me:

(I think) Bart is coming earlier than Cayman because of the availability of the new GDDR5+ memory.
But it also means they will be stuck with it, meaning that when the GDDR5+ availability broadens, they will still have to use the probably more expensive combination of 256 bits + old GDDR5.

To keep this post aligned with my name, I ought troll, therefore, I do:
AMD having to use 256 bits in a NEW GENERATION to compete with nVidia's old one? HA! They've achieved to surpass the highest level of incompetence known to man.

?? Doesn't the HD 5970 outperforms the GTX 480? Using your logic would means that nVidia had to use a 384-Bits in a New generation to loose against the old AMD's HD 5970 and beat the 6 months old HD 5870 by 15% while using 50% more power, nVidia and AMD engineers are far from being incompetent. Both have their strenghts and weaknesses.

 

[HurleyBird]

Sarcasm man, sarcasm.

 

[Hauk]

Kinda makes sense for me:
..To keep this post aligned with my name, I ought troll...

+1 lurker too..

 

[Silverforce11]

I believe this is a 67xx card that will have 30% more performance than 5770 with 1.5bil transistors and ~250-260mm2. HD6750 will have the same performance with GTX460 1G (Between 5830 and 5850) and 6770 will be between 5850 and 5870. Price at $200-250.

Good call.

Price depends on how low NV is willing to go with their gtx460 (a much bigger GPU). I have a feeling that NV knows its not going to win, so its pricing it low to put downward pressure on the 6770 when it comes out. Basically they are saying "you may beat us, but you're not going to make a lot of profit doing it".

 

[bryanW1995]

Yes NV has many fans. We all know that they will go to extremes. Rumors are rumors but a pic is worth a 1000 words and these things look like their ready just need to build up stock .

Are you saying that I'm a nvidia fan?

 

[bryanW1995]

I don't think you quite understand what I was getting at.

For that rumor to make sense at all there has to be some sort of reason... marketing departments are stupid but there is a limit .

If they do release what we expect to be the 6770 as a 6870 it likely means two things... First is that the performance difference between the top of the line chip and the second chip (Barts and Cayman) is far smaller than we are used to, and the price will be larger. Thus the name difference to previous generations is because the price of the 6770 would otherwise be drastically out of whack with the 5770 at the time of launch.. which generally looks bad to people. We'd end up with a card called the 6870 that costs a good bit less than the 5870 did at launch but that performs a touch slower.

Who knows though, just rumors atm.

if they hadn't trashed the xx30 brand so much with 5830 then they could have rebadged barts xt as 6830 instead of 6870. as it is they might have to put the xx30 moniker in storage for a few gens...kind of like they ditched "xt" after the 2900 series.

I agree with lopri, the 2 things most likely to not change in the leadup to launch are barts xt = 2/3 cayman xt and it looks highly likely that we're going from 4+1 to 2+2. everything else, card names, performance, die size, yields, and jhh wood screw jokes are all likely to move around quite a bit.

Good call.

Price depends on how low NV is willing to go with their gtx460 (a much bigger GPU). I have a feeling that NV knows its not going to win, so its pricing it low to put downward pressure on the 6770 when it comes out. Basically they are saying "you may beat us, but you're not going to make a lot of profit doing it".

amd was able to strongly influence the market in the 48x0 vs gtx 2x0 launch days b/c they had a very strong 1-2 of 4870/50, then brought out 4870x2, 4830, 4770 later on, etc. they had a strong lineup from top to bottom. I don't think that nvidia will have too much success trying to control the market with a gtx 460 1gb & 768 mb + some duct tape, balls of string, and pocket lint. they could have some influence on the mid range certainly, but that's it until they come out with something at least competitive with amd's high end.