CBO analysis of new tax bill, $100k+ earner gets big cuts, poorer earner will tax more after bill

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UNCjigga

Lifer
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For all the talk about SALT, what we should really be focusing on is the pass-through deduction for billionaires, which may actually be going up from 17% to 23% (not 20%) in order to secure Johnson's and Daines' votes.
 

K1052

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Collins is yes with 10K property tax deduction amendment sweetener.
 

K1052

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I would generally expect this provision to survive in conference since the House bill has it too, however if they need to pay for some stuff it might not. Problems without actually having two written bills to compare lol.
 
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I would generally expect this provision to survive in conference since the House bill has it too, however if they need to pay for some stuff it might not. Problems without actually having two written bills to compare lol.
21% vs 20% corporate tax should do the trick.
 

K1052

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21% vs 20% corporate tax should do the trick.

There is talk about taking out of the repatriation rate also. I'm not taking anything for granted until the conference report comes out.

Trump surrogates did seem to be softening people up for a higher corp rate in the final product though, from a half watching glance at the news last night.
 

fleshconsumed

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I've said it when healthcare bill failed and I've said it again a few days ago that I wouldn't be surprised if GOP managed to pull through on the Tax Bill. After all, they all agree on cutting taxes to the rich.

Still, sad to see this atrocity being put into law. I just hope that my equity investments will go up in the short term, that I'll be able to time the move to fixed income before the storm hits few years down the road, and that the eventual downturn won't be as bad as Great Recession of 2008-2009. Then again, as someone said, every time you repeat the same mistake, the price goes up. So...
 
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I've said it when healthcare bill failed and I've said it again a few days ago that I wouldn't be surprised if GOP managed to pull through on the Tax Bill. After all, they all agree on cutting taxes to the rich.

Still, sad to see this atrocity being put into law. I just hope that my equity investments will go up in the short term, that I'll be able to time the move to fixed income before the storm hits few years down the road, and that the eventual downturn won't be as bad as Great Recession of 2008-2009. Then again, as someone said, every time you repeat the same mistake, the price goes up. So...
Market corrections are inevitable. Will you be cheering when they happen?
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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What is happening with the tax bill now is not unusual given the circumstances. Does this fact bother you in some way?

What is happening with the tax bill now is in fact highly unusual. In fact, everything about how this bill has been put together is highly unusual. The insanely rushed time frame, the lack of expert input, the historic unpopularity, etc. It's all very, very unusual.

It's telling that this 'wonderful' tax cut polls lower than Bill Clinton's tax INCREASE. That's how much the public knows this is a pile of shit. The only thing you and I can do is make sure that the people responsible for this irresponsibility pay the price at the ballot box. I hope you'll join the rest of us in working to oust everyone who votes in favor of this bill.
 

Engineer

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Oct 9, 1999
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What is happening with the tax bill now is not unusual given the circumstances. Does this fact bother you in some way?

Yes, my taxes are going up (unless something has changed enough in this lately to change that I don' t know about).

Oh, and this isn't about Democrats that you brought up so it's a #Whataboutism moment.

And as far as I'm concerned, any Republican that complains about deficits again needs their damn ass kicked.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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so uh, anyone got some highlights here? Do I need to incorporate a business and funnel my life through it to take advantage? How do I exploit this for my personal gain?

Hopefully the standard deductions are going up?
 

Engineer

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so uh, anyone got some highlights here? Do I need to incorporate a business and funnel my life through it to take advantage? How do I exploit this for my personal gain?

Hopefully the standard deductions are going up?

I've read that there are protections in this to keep people from incorporating just to get this (aka - Kansas).

Standard deductions up - personal exemptions gone so for some us, it's a tax hike.
 

Blackjack200

Lifer
May 28, 2007
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The only thing you and I can do is make sure that the people responsible for this irresponsibility pay the price at the ballot box. I hope you'll join the rest of us in working to oust everyone who votes in favor of this bill.

It's interesting how many Senators and Representatives don't seem to give a shit about public support as they vote for this bill or signal support for it. Almost like we don't live in a representative democracy any more.
 
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