CC Fraud! OT, but mods, please allow - *EVERYONE* pls read

[moolman]

For all the citibank users like me that have to have the affidavit, I called them and I told them that in my area, Los Angeles, they charge $10 to get something notorized, so they said that they would put a note on my account stating that I'm not using a notary cause its more than the charge of the $10.25 from Russian Telecom.

Alex

 

[pkchu]

My parents have some retail shops...and at the end of the day you can hit some #'s on the zon Jr (the CC swiping machine) and you get a list of all the CC#'s and exp dates swiped through the respective unit that day (or any day for that matter).....so the best way to go is cash by far...or debit card. Online, I think the single use CC#'s are incredible....but I think it shows you should always review those statements!

 

[spittle]

Fugimax,

"Haven Industries" is what the purchase of that cheap speaker wire from Recoton Direct seems to come under. Ya must've gotten two spools.

 

[Cheezy]

I was watching the Chicago news on Fox earlier this week and they had a story about some FedEx driver who was stealing packages.

He stole upwards around $14,000 worth of video games, dvds, and electronics. He actually got turned in by his own family because they got suspicious when they were opening Christmas gifts and most were packaged in fed ex boxes.

At least he got caught!

I was also thinking, wouldnt you have to be a real dumb A** to steal from your own FED EX truck. Considering every fed ex package has a tracking number. They would have to notice after a while that all the missing packages were getting loaded onto this guy's truck and then mystically disappeared.

DUMB I SAY!!!

 

[SLEEPER5555]

i just got this following email that i thought you all might want to read

Thank you for your recent visit to ihateshopping.net regarding the unfortunate incidents at creditcards.com and egghead.com, we are pleased to have been of service.

Many of you found that you had unauthorized charges on your cards from Moscow Russia EVEN though your name did not appear on the list posted by hackers in the credit cards.com case. If your card had any unauthorized charges whatsover then, this e-mail will be VERY important for you.

THE FBI NEEDS YOUR HELP!!! Please cancel the card with anauthorized charges if you have not already done so. Then, forward the number of the card you had unauthorized charges, to Ken McGuire, the agent in charge of this investigation. He will need the following information:

First name
Last name
Card number
exp date
Date the illegal charges were made
Amount of the charges
a contact phone number in case he needs to get ahold of you

Don't worry about giving up this sort of information. You should have already cancelled your card.

Agent McGuire's e-mail address is kmcguire@fbi.gov

Also, IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY TOLD US , please send any information you feel comfortable sending to us regarding any unauthorized charges you may have found since checking our site. If you have already told us, PLEASE, do not tell us again as it will only serve to create duplicate files. We are diligently usingthe information you are sending in order to put together a legal action in regards to this case.

Thank you for your help in this matter.

Sincerely,

Harry W. Widdifield
President, ihateshopping.net

help the fbi on this one folks, it will move it faster along!

 

[Pnklytnyng]

^bump^

 

[squeakie]

I was reviewing my CC bill today, and sure enough there was a $10.05 charge to Global Telecom in Moscow. Called the CC company and they closed the card and are issuing a new one. She didn't say anything about sending anything to have notorized.

THANKS for the heads up!

 

[iknowcomputers2]

OMG i hope they catch the bastards that did this, well course they will, it's all electronic right? I mean it goes from bank to bank, everything is documented, is their any way these russian people might get away with charging 55,000 cards?

I had my card stolen last christmas, etoys.com called and asked if I wanted $1,000 worth of toys shipped to across the country.

i think the media ought to make a huge example of people like this when they're caught, so it discourages others.

*bump*

 

[daye]

Citibank really disappointed me this time!

As many of you I was charged a $10.25 from MOSCOW. I called Citibank and disputed the charge. They credited back the money but did NOT close the account. After reading the posts on this board, I called back to cancel the account. To my surprise, they REALLY asked me to notarize the affidavid. I told the rep I would rather pay off the bill and never use their card again then go through the inconvenience for such small amount of dispute, especially since it already made national news and drew attention from FBI. He told me that's my choice.

What astonish me more was that the rep pretended he never heard of the GLOBAL TELECOM issue. Is Citibank joking with its reputation? I have been satisfied with Citibank's service for years, but this time

CITIBANK SUCKS!:disgust:

I don't know if any Citibank executives listen to their customers' voice. I guess the GLOBAL TELECOM issue will be a big PR crisis for them and possibly a turnning point in their competition with DISCOVER or AMEX. Further more, I suspect Citibank uses the affidavit strategy to deter their customers to dispute small amount fraud like what the GLOBAL TELECOM did in co-operation with Russia Gangs. I can't help but recall about 2 years ago when Citibank was caught washing money for some Russia crooks.

 

[iluvdeal]

I am one of the Citibank "victims" also. Does anyone know where to get free notarizations? If I went to a Citibank branch would it be done for free? How about Bank of America? Can't believe I may end up spending the same amount of money I was attempting to save.

 

[daye]

As we noticed, Citibank only adopt the notary strategy right after the MOSCOW fraud. Now everybody can have the question of WHY did they do this and the TIMING ?

 

[abovewood]

Citibank sucks.

1st USA didn't ask for notarizations when I had the problem last time.

 

[HEUGE]

As a separate but related issue:

It would be good to note that if a credit card database has been hacked, there is most likely the same threat that all account information as well. This would include address, information, "hint" password (e.g. mother's maiden name), real password, birthdate (if you were so inclined), etc...

All truly dangerous information to have laying around. Assuming that everyone is smart enough to not use their real birthdate, and also smart enough not to use mother's maiden name as hint, then the catch is to make sure that your password is unique for any site. For a while I thought that it was stored encrypted in most places... until I called a retailer one day and they "read-back" my exact password back to me.

I then realized that most databases were designed for data integrity first and usability second. Security is not even usually third. They had all passwords in clear text, and readable by all CSR's. *brrrrr*

So, use different passwords for every site you go to. I think it's about time that I go and update all my passwords again. With the recent hacks, it's definitely time to change everything one more time. It's not misplaced paranoia if everyone is already out to get you.

8)

 

[GozerGozarian]

Hmm... I think I'm getting paranoid here....!!!

 

[RoadRuner]

umm if you go to your bank, the lady at the CSR desk is a notary. She will do it for free , if you are a good account holder. $5 otherwise.



the citibank AAdvantage is the most popular card in the world, prolly why they don't want to have to cancel them all. keep it hush hush.

 

[tbalon]

My credit card was just cancelled and when I called customer service they told me that

"Eggheads.com's database had recently been compromised"

and anybody who had an account there or used their CC to buy something there should cancel the card immediately!!! Their security division had allready stopped a charge from going through on my card because they knew it was fradulent. Needless to say I thanked them and they are sending me a new card.

Chek your statement carefully!!!!!!!!!!

TFB

 

[Zipperhead]

i opened up an account at home depot.purchased $63 worth of stuff.when i got
my bill it was $4063.WTF.apparently as soon as they processed my info someone
at H.D. in another state bought $4000 worth of paint.(lol)they took care of
it promptly.

Zip

 

[daye]

I sort of figured out the game Citibank was playing here. Even though they knew the card number had been cracked, they did not want to cancel the account and issue a new one in purpose to cut their operational cost of maybe $10(print the plastic card, postage, update their database and some paperwork) or so. But according to federal law, they will eat any amount of fraud tranctions if customers dispute in the future which surely will occur. Certainly they don't want to spent money on that too. Therefore, they deter their customers from filing dispute on fruad transctions by throwing in the inconvenience of going to a notary and the cost that customers have to pay from their own pocket to have the affidavit notarized as the newly added requirement. I would say this kind of management at the least was stupid. So do you trust your money on this team?

 

[iknowcomputers2]

bump

 

[Ejunior2]

:| I got hit by these Russian scumbags 6 months ago. Luckily, I do all my on-line transaction with a single card. I check the statement every month (Quicken Reconsile) and pay it off. FirstCard, now FirstUSA, took care of it pertty quick.

 

[dans87atwork]

I just got a call from my CC company. They automatically closed my account and are sending me new cards. I didn't even have to ask. Not bad for a small little credit union's card.

They also told me it was from egghead.

Oh well, I didn't like the design on my old cards anyways.

Dan

 

[longhorn]

My Citibank Visa was hit for $10.53. I called, they asked
me to send in form, but did not ask that it be notarized.
The CSR claimed no knowledge of any hacking. I asked
if the card should be canceled, and she said no. She
confirmed that I was at NO RISK for any unauthorized charges,
just like that silly circus TV commercial says.

Has anyone been hit more than once?

 

[aja]

Yep, me too. My AT&T Universal MC was hit twice over the past 6 months with the same charge. Both were reversed of course, but still.

 

[iluvdeal]

No risk? Those people in Russia have your CC# lying around in some hard drive there, whose to say they won't use it again?

 

[daye]

The notary part is their brand new trick. I called about 2 weeks ago about the MOSCOW charge and there was no notary thing but last night, after reading the posts on this board, I thought I might need to close the account and so I called. The CSR told me specifically I need to notarize the affidavit.