CCNA 5 DAY BOOTCAMP -- $1945 -- PASS OR ITS FREE!

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shaoyeh0

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Why would computer engineers need this? How much more would you make after getting certified? I'm a graduating computer science major and my starting salary is 65k. I can only imagine that you guys are making much more considering engineering is harder.
 

aceshigh73

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I would doubt a "Computer Engineer" would need a Cisco Certification since "engineers" usually write code.... and yes... they "usually" make a nice salary... Those that dont want/like to write code will try to get a cert so it looks good to their boss or on their resume... (Although I did feel like I accomplished something when i passed my CCNA and also when I passed 2 MS cert tests a few years ago).
 

Robbed

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i signed up about a week ago. this isnt actually just a put in your 5 days ang get a degree type thing. they overnighted me about 10 books and some router sim software and there is a 6 week study schedule to prepare you for the class. sounds like the 5 days is all hands-on router work.

seems to me like 6 weeks of studying and 5 days of hands on and it'll be something you can remember and apply in the job market.


rob
 

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To CCNA, or not to CCNA, that is the question.

I work is a CISCO Enterprise Environment, and I am an Electronics Technician 2nd Class in the Navy.

IMHO, CCNA is a good cert that gets abused. So I'm gonna spread a bit of my knowledge/opinion for those whom are curious.

Computer Tech Bootcamps, for the most part, do not care if you know the material. They only care if you know the test answers, because that is what you are paying them to do. My "agency" sent me to a CCNA prep course (not a boot camp, $2000 also), and I still don't have my CCNA. Could I pass the test? Probably. But I work around the equipment all day, configuring enterprise class 4000 & 7000's, as well as workgroup switches (2912's/2950's), and even remote travel ISDN packages (3000 routers).

You do not need to ANYTHING about computers or networks to get your cert from a bootcamp. They will spoonfeed you, and make you memorize the answers.

The same goes for MCSE, and all the other Boot Camps. Now... When you get hired by <any company larger than a mom & pop>, and they hire you based on your CCNA, and ask you to configure thier 2950, you will not have a clue. Maybe you could eek your way by referencing the book... If you're working with other IT professionals, they will see right through you... We had a guy with CCNA, CCIE, and CCMP interview for a bigger position here, but he couldn't answer any questions about CISCO CAT-OS, or even simple bridging questions... Hell, I know that, and have no cert. Granted I am very lucky due to my military position to have over a year of CISCO OJT, and over four years left...

So would my "agency's" $2000 have been better spent on sending me to a boot-camp? I think so, because I have experience with CISCO... People whom have a bit of networking experience (anything more than HOME networks), may or may not survive the job market after a bootcamp and cert. People coming from highly NON-technical backgrounds, this is a good way to waste $2k. The cert's expire in 3 years, so if you get the cert, and don't get a job soon to reinforce what you just eeked into your brain from bootcamp, you'll forget it... no job... no more cert... no dinero... Non-techs should go to a decent tech-university specially designed for them, DeVry or ITT Tech to name two. They "loan" you the tuition, and you earn it back going through the schools. You get your associates/bachelors, plus the experience of a high-tech specialized school, which focuses a bit more on the reality of the job you'll be doing, not just the "theoretical" implications of what you may be doing in years to come.

Just my 222 cents...
 

iamme

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bwahaha.......i read through the whole thing, until i realized orginal post date.
 

CartysCrib

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LOL same here...
I work at a plastics factory programming robots and fixtures to assemble plastic parts.....They pay for all of my schooling, if its work related or not..I could take guitar lessons and they would pay for them!
Might consider the CCNA, I already have my A+ and MCP
 

IgoByte

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Originally posted by: CartysCrib
LOL same here...
I work at a plastics factory programming robots and fixtures to assemble plastic parts.....They pay for all of my schooling, if its work related or not..I could take guitar lessons and they would pay for them!
Might consider the CCNA, I already have my A+ and MCP

Dude, that's friggin awesome!!! Personally, I'd take as much as I could.
 

Shaorinor

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I was never a big fan of classroom instruction. I'm in college and rarely go to class because all the instructors do is read notes from the book. I can do that on my own just as well.
 

OSULugan

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I would doubt a "Computer Engineer" would need a Cisco Certification since "engineers" usually write code.... and yes... they "usually" make a nice salary... Those that dont want/like to write code will try to get a cert so it looks good to their boss or on their resume...

Actually, most engineers don't "write code." We tend to be more involved in the design and integration/test process (and generally get paid better to do that than writing code). For instance, I write software specification as my main duty... and I graduated with a Computer Engineering degree.

As my High School programming teacher used to say, "Any monkey can write code.... it's doing the design and building the algorithm that's hard."
 

Bacinator

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Ahh...
I think i did a hot deals search for "cam" as in Cameras, and that popped up, so I responded. Silly me... I do that sometimes.
 

alkemyst

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I work for a company owned by my brother who got all his Cisco credentials in a year and many specialites...of cource he has been running ISP's for about 10 years. He now edits CISCO Press book on the side as well as running the biggest private ISP in LA-AK-TX, as well as his Cisco company Netjam.Net .

For the CCNA the ICND book is all you really need, you dont have to even see a router until late into CCNP. For CCIE you have to have alot of rack time or you will fail...and even then you may fail. It's a hard test, and fast paced. The right answer is only the fastest answer...you can still be right, but wrong if it is a slower solution . One guy actually broke his hand taking the lab test and didn't know until 2-3 hours later when it swelled up (he passed ). CCIE is crazy and a bootcamp really really helps for it.

We sell a lot of student labs....cheap. You may find a better deal on ebay of course but our labs include some tech support.

If you are interested let me know privately as advertising is prohibited.

Chris
 

jbubrisk

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This is more like MIS stuff as far as I can tell (Managment of Information Systems). Anyway, I looked on that used router website, and they had a 2501 for $200 shipped. That a good deal?
 

IEC

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Originally posted by: cpals
What books would be good for a CCNA?

LMAO... 3 years later... I imagine the recommendations are the same

There are plenty of good study guides for every exam imaginable at Amazon
 
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