CCNA/Cisco cert forums

[Koing]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: TreyRandom
Just checked... How2Pass is a braindump... illegal collections of questions from the live exam. Using them can get you decertified for life.

You forgot to put how long your wang is in your sig. You have just about everything else there.

lol

He has quite a lot of selection of certs!

Koing

 

[mcmilljb]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
I'm with ya here alkemyst! I'm studying for Network+, Security+, A+, CCNA, and CISSP. CCNA will probably be the last one I take though. Right now I'm studying for A+, but it annoys me that I know 80% of what is on there, and the stuff I don't know is either:

A. Useless memory addresses and IRQ's
B. Mixed in with the stuff I know like the back of my hand

I got the ExamCram series of books to study for the tests and they seem to do a decent enough job (Though, I have next to no time to plow through them with all the stuff going on here at college)!

Good luck on the exam though!!!!

-Kevin

I used the ExamCram for extra practice with my MCSA exams. It's a decent series. I don't like the A+ exam for the same reasons. I got through it quick a few years ago while in college. Do you have the work experience for the CISSP already? Just asking because I noticed you were college.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: mcmilljb

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
I'm with ya here alkemyst! I'm studying for Network+, Security+, A+, CCNA, and CISSP. CCNA will probably be the last one I take though. Right now I'm studying for A+, but it annoys me that I know 80% of what is on there, and the stuff I don't know is either:

A. Useless memory addresses and IRQ's
B. Mixed in with the stuff I know like the back of my hand

I got the ExamCram series of books to study for the tests and they seem to do a decent enough job (Though, I have next to no time to plow through them with all the stuff going on here at college)!

Good luck on the exam though!!!!

-Kevin

I used the ExamCram for extra practice with my MCSA exams. It's a decent series. I don't like the A+ exam for the same reasons. I got through it quick a few years ago while in college. Do you have the work experience for the CISSP already? Just asking because I noticed you were college.

The only exam he's studying for is the A+ I've met a couple of people like him saying they're studying for a half dozen certs at any given time.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
I'm with ya here alkemyst! I'm studying for Network+, Security+, A+, CCNA, and CISSP. CCNA will probably be the last one I take though. Right now I'm studying for A+, but it annoys me that I know 80% of what is on there, and the stuff I don't know is either:

CISSP before getting a CCNA? I personally would just study for one at a time. Much of this is building block fashion so completing one fully prepares you nearly fully for the next. Due to the requirements many have to be CCNP's just to get the jobs to put them in the 4-5 years of running for this cert. Plus the level of knowledge needed usually puts one well into CCNP anyway.

Anyway testing ICND1/CCENT on monday....took two Boson tests last night and missed passing by 1 question on one test and 3 on the other. The questions were more in-depth than the INCD book showed things so I am doing some side reading today on NAT/PAT.

Most have said though the Boson tests are more challenging (which is a good thing).

 

[HannibalX]

Originally posted by: freegeeks
I got my CCNA last week, forget about the braindumps. In my bootcamp class of 12, only 3 passed.
I have some experience in networking and I have to say that the test was harder then I tought. You really have to know the basic stuff

The problem is people with zero IT experience expect to be able to attend a boot camp and pass.

If you can't pass Network+ attempting to pass any Cisco tests is a waste of time.

 

[HannibalX]

I hope you guys realise the requirements for CISSP. Just working as a sys admin or help desk monkey does NOT qualify you to pass CISSP. The requirements state you need 2 years of working in a DEDICATED security analyst or security engineering role before you can pass. You also must have the endorsement of someone who is already CISSP.

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Originally posted by: iFX
I hope you guys realise the requirements for CISSP. Just working as a sys admin or help desk monkey does NOT qualify you to pass CISSP. The requirements state you need 2 years of working in a DEDICATED security analyst or security engineering role before you can pass. You also must have the endorsement of someone who is already CISSP.

So how did the first person get their CISSP? Hmmmm? jk jk

 

[HannibalX]

Good question. Ask the International Information Systems Security Certification Consortium, they are in charge of issuing CISSP certs!

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: iFX
I hope you guys realise the requirements for CISSP. Just working as a sys admin or help desk monkey does NOT qualify you to pass CISSP. The requirements state you need 2 years of working in a DEDICATED security analyst or security engineering role before you can pass. You also must have the endorsement of someone who is already CISSP.

I was sure it was 4-5 years working for an approved job.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: iFX

Originally posted by: freegeeks
I got my CCNA last week, forget about the braindumps. In my bootcamp class of 12, only 3 passed.
I have some experience in networking and I have to say that the test was harder then I tought. You really have to know the basic stuff

The problem is people with zero IT experience expect to be able to attend a boot camp and pass.

If you can't pass Network+ attempting to pass any Cisco tests is a waste of time.

Bootcamps have never been designed to pass a neophyte. They are designed for the dude that has been doing it already and now wants to test official.

"Classes" do work. I was able to get in on a free one last year with Cisco. It was 4 weeks and we met 3 days a week for 4 hours. Most took CCNA and passed that took the test.

I got side-tracked buying a house and then some medical stuff for my wife.

 

[Schwan]

bump

 

[TreyRandom]

Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus

Originally posted by: iFX
I hope you guys realise the requirements for CISSP. Just working as a sys admin or help desk monkey does NOT qualify you to pass CISSP. The requirements state you need 2 years of working in a DEDICATED security analyst or security engineering role before you can pass. You also must have the endorsement of someone who is already CISSP.

So how did the first person get their CISSP? Hmmmm? jk jk

The endorsement requirement was only recently added.

 

[alkemyst]

The endorsement requirement is sort of a nice plus for those that really want the cert to move forward rather than just getting the cert to land a $XX,XXX job.

The MCSE was at one time a GUARANTEED $50-60k gig. I remember hiring one (my vote was not to hire though) who was like 21/22 at the time in the mid/late 90's. We asked him to change memory on a funky machine and he ended up fucking it all up. He was one of the first 'paper' MCSE's.

I truly am an advocate that braindumps are not the way to go on anything in life. Cisco for one is pretty vigilant on making tests non-brain dump at the upper levels. Many of those that are extremely well-prepared still fail their first and second attempts at CCIE (the written test is nothing...most think that alone is a holy grail though...it's just the ticket to be able to take the real test), the average pass at the third or fourth attempt. Most never make it to CCIE, even at guru levels.

The written exam is $300+ by itself. Then you MUST take the lab within 18months and pass in 3 years or you have to take the written again (and pay).

The lab is an 8 hour exam that has no real structure. They can throw anything at you. the CCIE - VOIP exam is the hardest as many times obscure items end up showing up. The lab used to be two 8 hour days. First was building the problem the next was them coming in and breaking your solution and then requiring you to fix it. However; fixing it was not only required. You had to do it the best way possible (fastest). CCIE's usually operate at levels were downtime is measured in thousands of dollars a minute.

Now the labs are only offered in a few locations worldwide. Some of the specialty CCIE tracts only in one location world wide. Usually you are looking at a 90day window+ to get a test date...That test is $1400 (no, contrary to some belief, you have to pay your own lodging and flight). You also have to wait at least 30 days between retakes (in reality you may be able to retake in 3-6 months due to availability).

Most don't have the fortitude to become a CCIE.

 

[alkemyst]

took the third Boson test today, 97% ...went back on the others and all in the 90's...

The Boson lab sims do seem more challenging than I'd except to see on the CCENT exam...but monday will tell. I am hoping to do CCNA by month end / early Nov and then CCNP by April.

 

[HannibalX]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: iFX

Originally posted by: freegeeks
I got my CCNA last week, forget about the braindumps. In my bootcamp class of 12, only 3 passed.
I have some experience in networking and I have to say that the test was harder then I tought. You really have to know the basic stuff

The problem is people with zero IT experience expect to be able to attend a boot camp and pass.

If you can't pass Network+ attempting to pass any Cisco tests is a waste of time.

Bootcamps have never been designed to pass a neophyte. They are designed for the dude that has been doing it already and now wants to test official.

"Classes" do work. I was able to get in on a free one last year with Cisco. It was 4 weeks and we met 3 days a week for 4 hours. Most took CCNA and passed that took the test.

I got side-tracked buying a house and then some medical stuff for my wife.

No kidding, but that doesn't keep green people from signing up anyway. It's their money though, if they want to blow it fine by me.

 

[HannibalX]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: iFX
I hope you guys realise the requirements for CISSP. Just working as a sys admin or help desk monkey does NOT qualify you to pass CISSP. The requirements state you need 2 years of working in a DEDICATED security analyst or security engineering role before you can pass. You also must have the endorsement of someone who is already CISSP.

I was sure it was 4-5 years working for an approved job.

Yup, I just looked over the requirements and they have been increased. I have no problem with that. The last thing the security engineering field needs is more do-it-all admins coming in and causing problems.

 

[spidey07]

FWIW, the CISSPs I work with don't really know what they are doing. There are some good ones to be sure, but the majority of them are pretty clueless. Most of them are "you need to do this, it's not secure!"

When I ask why they rattle off a bunch of things they read in a book, I point out how that doesn't apply to this situation and ask them again - "given the current environment, why are you making this recommendation?" Normally met with blank stares.

 

[HannibalX]

FWIW, there are plenty of people with degrees and certifications in all sorts of fields who don't really know what they are doing; CISSP isn't an exception.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: spidey07
FWIW, the CISSPs I work with don't really know what they are doing. There are some good ones to be sure, but the majority of them are pretty clueless. Most of them are "you need to do this, it's not secure!"

When I ask why they rattle off a bunch of things they read in a book, I point out how that doesn't apply to this situation and ask them again - "given the current environment, why are you making this recommendation?" Normally met with blank stares.

How many CISSPs do you have? Any of them engineers as well? What is your level of knowledge?

I have gotten tired of hearing how all these smaller places have "I don't know I think we have 6 or 7 CCIE's working there".

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: TreyRandom
Just checked... How2Pass is a braindump... illegal collections of questions from the live exam. Using them can get you decertified for life.

You forgot to put how long your wang is in your sig. You have just about everything else there.

sucks to be an underachiever I guess.

Hey, I already have my CCNA while you're still asking about it, chump.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: spidey07
FWIW, the CISSPs I work with don't really know what they are doing. There are some good ones to be sure, but the majority of them are pretty clueless. Most of them are "you need to do this, it's not secure!"

When I ask why they rattle off a bunch of things they read in a book, I point out how that doesn't apply to this situation and ask them again - "given the current environment, why are you making this recommendation?" Normally met with blank stares.

How many CISSPs do you have? Any of them engineers as well? What is your level of knowledge?

I have gotten tired of hearing how all these smaller places have "I don't know I think we have 6 or 7 CCIE's working there".

I'm brought in to companies to evalulate their network and security infrastructure. I frequently butt heads with their internal staff on security measures (token...they have a few CISSP folks who have no idea what they are doing) and vice versa (I'm on the other side defending best practice against security auditors (folks that love to put cissp after their name) that also don't know what they are doing.)

To put it easy, CISSPs are viewed as people that read, not people that know. Now there are good ones out there that know what they are doing. But for the most part they are full of book knowledge and lack real world understanding.

 

[FDF12389]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
Test Date for CCENT is 10/13

Let us know how it goes!

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: TreyRandom
Just checked... How2Pass is a braindump... illegal collections of questions from the live exam. Using them can get you decertified for life.

You forgot to put how long your wang is in your sig. You have just about everything else there.

sucks to be an underachiever I guess.

Hey, I already have my CCNA while you're still asking about it, chump.

I am not stopping there...should be CCNP by April or sooner.

 

[alkemyst]

Passed CCENT.

I will say that the sims you can buy / get online were not much like the sims you will encounter.

You have to be able to understand A LOT more that's going on.

Also the freaking Cisco test engine sucks and the sim questions seemed like they were written with someone with english as a third language.

Hoping to be CCNA by next month.

 

[mcmilljb]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
Passed CCENT.

I will say that the sims you can buy / get online were not much like the sims you will encounter.

You have to be able to understand A LOT more that's going on.

Also the freaking Cisco test engine sucks and the sim questions seemed like they were written with someone with english as a third language.

Hoping to be CCNA by next month.

There's a NDA. Don't talk about the exam too much.

The best way to prepare for a possible sim question is to practice the commands yourself or use the official lab manuals available. Also if you read the exam objectives, you will see the words "configure" or "implement". That should set off red flags for possible sim questions from that subject area. The official ccnp lab manuals nail the objectives that require you to configure and implement. You should have spent some time telling Cisco what you didn't like after the exam.

I have my ISCW exam Wednesday. Yay!