CDC wants to mandate that all males 11 and older get HPV Vaxinated

[Anarchist420]

What Merck does to Texas, they do to the country. There is no good reason to have the CDC, they've done far more harm than good.

http://www.naturalnews.com/034016_HPV_vaccines_CDC.html#ixzz1cTfOnu43

 

[halik]

Free market wooo, let cholera, blackpox, polio, etc naturally work itself. Amirite?

It's truly scary that you don't have the faintest clue how retarded your ideas are.

 

[waggy]

while i do think those that should get vacines this is diffrent.

I do think this is the pharms getting the goverment to make it mandatory (they did it with females already). the advantages on males is more questionable though.

 

[momeNt]

Can any of these vaccinations be done in utero? That way there is no free will or liberty to worry about.

 

[Demo24]

There is no good reason to have the CDC, they've done far more harm than good.

Lol, wut? You can not seriously back that up, which is basically everything you post.

and from your own article first line "The panel of experts that advises the CDC".

Not to mention that article has NO reputable sources, the only semi-reputable one was NPR, which when you click on it was simply a news article. I mean seriously, youtube, a blog on yahoo?? lmfao, clearly you failed college level research if you accept those as reputable sources.

 

[Apple Of Sodom]

I have no problem with mandatory vaxinations as long as they don't start mandatory vaccinations.

 

[halik]

while i do think those that should get vacines this is diffrent.

I do think this is the pharms getting the goverment to make it mandatory (they did it with females already). the advantages on males is more questionable though.

I think the issue is there are no HPV tests for males (IIRC) available, which makes disease control difficult.

 

[Newbian]

If you are opposed to this op feel free to not get any shots from now on and not let any offspring you have a small percentage of making get them also and tell us how it goes.

 

[momeNt]

Free market wooo, let cholera, blackpox, polio, etc naturally work itself. Amirite?

It's truly scary that you don't have the faintest clue how retarded your ideas are.

Let's have strong central governments instead of peaceful free markets.

Centralized power, after all, is a requirement for war.

 

[halik]

Let's have strong central governments instead of peaceful free markets.

Centralized power, after all, is a requirement for war.

Brush up on the idea of negative externality, which communicable diseases clearly fall under.

Government correcting market failures => war is an asinine stretch at best.

 

[waggy]

I think the issue is there are no HPV tests for males (IIRC) available, which makes disease control difficult.

that too.

I think the big issue is this drug started out as a way to combat cervical cancer. now it covers a wide range of items to cover males.

The data on how it effects females is its safe (though some debate on it). Though there has been questionable reports on if it really works since people are only giving 2 doses instead of 3.

the stuff i have read on it being safe and effective on males is inconsistent. when i was doing research on it for my daughter (she is 9 now. so due to get it soon) i read a few reports that said this would be bad for males. now a lot says yes its a good idea.


Personally i think Merc paid off Perry years ago to mandate it. Now they are spreading to other parts of the goverment.

But as for it being safe for girls at least? yeah i will have my daughter get it.

 

[Ninjahedge]

I think they need more work on it, and make sure that while the development of the vaccine is reimbursed, that it no longer carries a copyright.

You do not mandate a privately held medicine/vaccine.

After that, so long as the side effects can be minimized, this is a passive no-brainer. If it can prevent cervical cancer, then it is worth it. This stuff is sneaky and all too common (80% last I heard say?). Eliminating one more randomly evolved strip of RNA from the evolutionary tree is fine in my book.

 

[senseamp]

http://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/stdfact-hpv-and-men.htm

Each year in the U.S. there are about:
400 men who get HPV-associated penile cancer
1,500 men who get HPV-associated anal cancer
5,600 men who get HPV-associated oropharyngeal cancers (cancers of the back of throat including base of tongue and tonsils) [Note: Many of these cancers may also be related to tobacco and alcohol use.]

Seems like HPV is very rarely cancer-causing in men, and in vast majority of cases, it's a result of performing oral on the woman. So women seem like the beneficiaries of HPV vaccine, either in direct health benefits or in making it more safe for men to give them pleasure. As such it makes no sense to mandate these vaccines for men who receive almost no benefit from it while not mandating them for women who receive almost all the benefits from it.

 

[Demo24]

http://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/stdfact-hpv-and-men.htm


Seems like HPV is very rarely cancer-causing in men, and in vast majority of cases, it's a result of performing oral on the woman. So women seem like the beneficiaries of HPV vaccine, either in direct health benefits or in making it more safe for men to give them pleasure. As such it makes no sense to mandate these vaccines for men who receive almost no benefit from it while not mandating them for women who receive almost all the benefits from it.

Because men carry it, and then can easily give it to other females. It was mentioned that one of the reasons behind this is the slowness of adoption rate among females, so this is one way to try and combat it.

edit: it can also cause anal cancer to either sex

edit2: also extremely common, most common in US estimated 50-75% of sexually active individuals will contract a HPV infection at some point and a study showed that 60% of female college students contracted it.

 

[1prophet]

This is about money not children and Merck wants to be the sole provider.

 

[airdata]

Free market wooo, let cholera, blackpox, polio, etc naturally work itself. Amirite?

It's truly scary that you don't have the faintest clue how retarded your ideas are.

You sound like you're unaware of all of the issues and lawsuits surrounding the mandatory HPV vaccinations.

 

[airdata]

OH SH** GUYS.... ANTHRAX! BUY CIPRO!!!

6 months later... false alarm guys, it was from an American lab and wasn't a terrorist incident.. carry on.

 

[waggy]

This is about money not children and Merck wants to be the sole provider.

thats another issue. Merck is trying to get a monopoly on it. wich is why its getting pushed so hard.

While i do think it is a good idea. i do not think it should be mandatory. I do not put it on the same level as some of the other mandatory vaccination we give kids.

The fact that Merck is pretty much the driving force makes me question it. I feel its not about safety but about money and its being rushed without knowing full well what it will do.

 

[momeNt]

thats another issue. Merck is trying to get a monopoly on it. wich is why its getting pushed so hard.

While i do think it is a good idea. i do not think it should be mandatory. I do not put it on the same level as some of the other mandatory vaccination we give kids.

The fact that Merck is pretty much the driving force makes me question it.

Well if they developed the vaccine and its patented, why would making it mandatory suddenly negate the patent?

I understand that making it mandatory compounds the issue, but how else is Merck going to get compensated for the R&D?

The issue is a little foggy also considering that Glaxo Smith Kline and Merck both had competing patents out there for this vaccine which have since been settled. Maybe Merck is trying to use this mandate to get around their initial settlement.

 

[Ausm]

How long does the OP have to wait to qualify for his shot?? Any guesses?

 

[SammyJr]

What Merck does to Texas, they do to the country. There is no good reason to have the CDC, they've done far more harm than good.

http://www.naturalnews.com/034016_HPV_vaccines_CDC.html#ixzz1cTfOnu43

Natural News is pseudo science. My flatulent ass has more credibility on scientific topics.

 

[halik]

You sound like you're unaware of all of the issues and lawsuits surrounding the mandatory HPV vaccinations.

I am quite aware of people trying to make quasi-scientific arguments to defend their dogma (OMGZ it's gonna make girls promiscuous, think of the jeebus!)

 

[momeNt]

Couldn't we maybe start mandating sugar content in drinks marketed to 11 year olds to protect them from diabetes (something that costs far more to government managed health care programs than penile cancer i'm sure) than starting with HPV vaccines?

I'm generally all for government involvement in our lives, but I prefer for it to start small and work its way up to mandates and directives, so I'm gonna go for a sugar capping over mandated vaccines.

 

[Anarchist420]

Lol, wut? You can not seriously back that up, which is basically everything you post.

and from your own article first line "The panel of experts that advises the CDC".

Not to mention that article has NO reputable sources, the only semi-reputable one was NPR, which when you click on it was simply a news article. I mean seriously, youtube, a blog on yahoo?? lmfao, clearly you failed college level research if you accept those as reputable sources.

I'm not doing research for college work and TBH, I didn't even read the whole article and I'm not surprised it didn't cite any heavy duty scholars. Still, the fact that so many people trust the government is sad and Merck already lobbied the governor of TX, so why wouldn't they lobby the US Government?

Further, Obama's Admin has denied more FOIA requests than any other President since it was signed into law (I don't remember the source, it just turned up and caught my eye when I was using a search engine)

I think the issue is there are no HPV tests for males (IIRC) available, which makes disease control difficult.

It's probably because the few remaining remnants of freedom don't want a study on that.

 

[YoungGun21]

I love eating pussy, should I get this?