Celeron in LX Mobo

[Quiksel]

does this work?? I've heard arguments both yes and no that i can take a slotket and a celeron1/2 and pop it in... i don't know the exact MB model number (it's a Biostar mobo from an old Quantex system), which is probably a necessity in order to answer this question... but is there a blanket answer here?

well, if there is a definitive answer out there, i'm sure all you smart guys (and girls) will set me straight.

thanks for your input!

rah rah,
~niko ^_^

 

[shiner]

I experimented with an old Abit LX6 MB and celerons using a slotket. I was never able to get much more than a celery 500 to work in the system without it crashing all the damn time. Another thing I learned is STAY AWAY FROM GENERIC SLOTKETS!!! Get yourself an Asus or MSI slotket and have fun! Hope you have better luck at higher mhz than I did.

 

[Rand]

There is no blanket answer as it epends upon the individual motherboard in question. In gneral however, most LX boards will have no problems taking up to a 533MHz PPGA Celeron.

The vast majority of LX mobo's cannot support a FCPGA Celeron processor however.

 

[Zach]

LX and (I think) ZX boards were 66Mhz FSB, as high as a Celeron gets. Or has Intel started making 100Mhz FSB Celerons?.. Anyway, the only limitation is voltage and BIOS support for older celerons.

 

[Joony]

isnt the 800mhz celeron on a 100mhz bus?

 

[Zach]

I asked first..

 

[Quiksel]

the 800 is finally on a 100 MHz FSB... and ZX is, just as you say, 66MHz. ZX was a revamp of LX, even though BX was already out... it was usually used by OEM's for budget microATX mobos... they weren't around too long, though... at least from what i remember about them... they were somewhat different from LX boards.

 

[BurntKooshie]

I was under the impression the ZX was a castrated BX....any link for the LX ancestry?

 

[MadRat]

www.Powerleap.com has adapters to run Celeron FCPGA 533-766 in your LX motherboards. Its a special slotket, not a regular one. The pinout differences from Socket-370 LX to the newer standard is substantially different. This adapter solves the voltage differences.

 

[Zach]

<< I was under the impression the ZX was a castrated BX....any link for the LX ancestry? >>



Exactly, ZX and BX are only up to 66Mhz FSB, and well suited for older Celerons. Provided you don't plan on upgrading with that motherboard..

 

[lispro]

Check out his site on upgrading an LX board to a celeron link
The site is talking about the Intel LX board, bit it would probably help you as well.
I upgraded my intel LX board from a PII 233 to a celeron 500, and noticed a very nice boost

 

[GregMal]

What are you guys talking about??????
The LX chipset goes to 66mz. I'm running a Celeron 500 PPGA with
an ASUS slotket in a Tekram MB. The Tekram MB handles voltages as
low as 1.3 so it can handle Celerons up to 766 as long as the
slotket can handle both PPGA and FC-PGA.
The ZX chipset is basically the same as BX except it doesn't handle
LAN wakeup and only has 4 PCI slots. It handles both 66 and 100mz.
I should know, I have the ASUS P299 ATX ZX chipset MB for my other
PC...........Greg

 

[Quiksel]

a little investigative work turns up sour.

powerleap's website says my dad's biostar mobo won't work with it... ok, then. Too bad. argh.

argh argh,
~niko ^_^

good info though. thanks for the activity; i don't post much, but this has been a good experience. thanx.

 

[GregMal]

Quiksel: Take a look at this site. Only $30......
http://store.tekramusa.com:80//product.asp?dept_id=3&amp;sku=222
and like I said it'll take any Celeron up to 766mz........
Greg

 

[burnedout]

The Tekram board is good. Four DIMM slots. I've built a couple of boxes with them.

 

[JoeBaD]

I was running a c500/66 on a LX chipset SuperMicro mobo with some cheap slotkit adapter for almost a year before I sold it. As far as I know the LX will not support the 100 bus. I did have to upgrade my mobo's bios though to run the c500.

 

[Quiksel]

maybe i just have a hard time in understanding this...

But why would i want to go out and buy a brand new mobo with an old LX chipset just so i can run a 733 Celey? seems like the prices are close... ($30 mobo + $15 slotket + X celey chip) For a little bit more, i can buy a kick-butt Duron setup. Does this make any sense?

~niko ^_^

 

[BurntKooshie]

I agree with the duron sentiment

 

[Zach]

<< What are you guys talking about??????
The LX chipset goes to 66mz. I'm running a Celeron 500 PPGA with
an ASUS slotket in a Tekram MB. The Tekram MB handles voltages as
low as 1.3 so it can handle Celerons up to 766 as long as the
slotket can handle both PPGA and FC-PGA.
The ZX chipset is basically the same as BX except it doesn't handle
LAN wakeup and only has 4 PCI slots. It handles both 66 and 100mz.
I should know, I have the ASUS P299 ATX ZX chipset MB for my other
PC...........Greg >>



Either there's some other BX derivative, or Intel gave the ZX 100Mhz FSB after it's initial launch. I bet the ZX did originally only support 66Mhz, notice it only takes 512k of RAM (used to be a budget board). Odd if it's &quot;build off of BX technology&quot; which supports like what, 1 or 2 gigs?

 

[GregMal]

Actually the ZX came after the BX. You know intel......
They tried to make a less expensive version of the BX, sorta like
the 486sx....remember those.....
At the time I bought my ZX I was looking for at least 2 ISA slots
for my modem and sound......
Greg

 

[UpGrD]

Just adding this note.
I ran my Abit ZM6 (ZX chipset)for a long time (just upgraded) with a 566 celeron2 @ 850. A very solid setup.
Its limitation is a max voltage of 1.7v. I could not however get a Cel633 to boot.
There are allot of very cheap ZX MB's arround that can make very good lowend systems.

 

[GregMal]

Yeah...My ASUS P299 ZX is very limited for upgrading especially
due to voltage limitations. It can't even handle a Celeron 800
100 mz......But I discovered long ago that it's best when you
upgrade the CPU you'd better upgrade the MB also.
That's why I purchased the Tekram LX recently.....I had an ASUS
slotket lying around, so $30 for the MB and $52 for a Celeron 500
with heatsink was a cheap upgrade of an AMD K5 133 system.....
BTW...It's awfully nice to get the MB directly from Tekram as they
give you the latest BIOS........
Greg

 

[Quiksel]

wouldn't it be nice if a company would make all their chips on ONE platform, so that people wouldn't get screwed everytime they wanna upgrade.


oh yeah, AMD already does that. = )

No hassles. Socket A chip? Yep. Then get a Socket A mobo. Oh, ok, that's easy. Yep, sure is.


~niko ^_^

 

[MadRat]

Intel is about raw sales and market penetration, not about flexibility. You pay extra for flexibility. Look at the Socket-A chipsets that include video and sound, they cost more. About the only thing becoming more flexible for less is the computer processors themselves.

 

[AndyHui]

There are 2 ZX chipsets: the original ZX-66, which supported the 66MHz FSB only, and the full blown ZX, released only slightly later, which supported both the 66MHz and 100MHz FSB.

The ZX chipset is a stripped down version of the BX chipset, with no SMP, a maximum of 256MB of RAM, and 4 PCI slots.

The EX chipset is the stripped down version of the LX chipset, again with the same limitations as the ZX chipset above.

The ZX chipset was released after the BX chipset; the EX chipset was released after the LX chipset.