Celeron Processor Help

[Y22KC]

I have an eMachine 466is. It has a 466mhz celeron processor. The motherboard has 128 L2 cache with a PPGA slot (whatever all that means). I wanted to add one the larger Celeron processors, maybe 700mhz. Will my motherboard support such a processor? Any input would be highly appreciated.

 

[chansen]

OK, ya gots a eMachine with a Slot 1 Celeron 466 CPU. That 128KB L2 cache resides on-die with the CPU - not on the motherboard.

Just took a look at the eMachines website - no help. You'll have to open the hood and see what you have for yourself. Or, take the box to your local computer store.

You may want to visit the BIOS and see what settings are available for the multiplier, may be under something like "CPU Ratio". Your 466 uses a ratio of 7.0 (7.0 x 66 = 466MHz). The 700 uses a multiplier of 10.5. Don't change the multiplier yet, just see if you can. Even if you can , you aren't out of the woods, because Celerons above 533 MHz are based on the Coppermine core, rather than the Mendocino core (still with me?).

To look at it another way, a Celeron 700 will only be marginally faster in most applications. Perhaps a faster video card or more memory are greater considerations - and easier to accomplish than trying to figure out if some generic board will accept a newer processor. If you have 32MB of SDRAM the choice is obvious - add more RAM and see. For Win98/ME, 64MB is absolute minimum. 128MB for Win2000.

Hope I've not introduced more confusion - though I'm rather convinced I have.

Regards,
Craig

 

[chansen]

Ah, forgot to explain the PPGA (Slot 1) vs. FC-PGA (Socket 370). All the newer Celerons and P3's are Socket 370. You'll need a Slotket adaptor with voltage adjustment to make it work.

 

[Y22KC]

Ok the RAM won't help since I already have 256MB of RAM. I'm not very concerned with a video or graphics card since I don't run a whole lot of 3d games. And no the bios will not let me overclock the processor. (I'm not as dumb as I appear!)

 

[Krodge]

I think we all forgot that a majority of OEM motherboards actually have to have their jumpers set manually. If you get a slotket, which converts PPGA (your celeron) to FCPGA (new celerons) then you should be fine. The jumpers on the slotket are the ones you have to set, since your motherboards doesn't have jumpers for the correct settings anyways.

 

[Bleep]

Do they really make a adapter to change from a PPGA to a FCPGA?
Bleep

 

[Y22KC]

I kind of figured they made a slot converter. Is there any known websites that sell the converter? I don't trust the computer shops around here since most of them don't know diddly about anything I ask them.

 

[Ewu]

No offense.... but I thought the last Slot-1 Celeron were 433. I don't recall any 466 Celerons being slot-1 but PPGA only. In addition, if you look at emachines website, the emachine 466is uses a 466 PPGA celeron CPU. They even have a pic of the motherboard on the site, so there's no way it could uses a slot-1 Celeron that is also 466 on it. So this pretty means... the highest possible CPU you can probably use on it is a Celeron 533 PPGA. Unless you get the adapter that lets you use a FCPGA Celeron into a PPGA socket, but finding one is not going to be easy and probably more trouble than it's worth. Either way, any upgrade on a emachine is rather limited esp. with the two pci, two isa slots, and two dimm slots. Personally I think you would be better off building/buying a new system than upgrading an Emachine. Even then you probably be better off with more memory than a faster cpu, esp. if you still have the same amount of memory when you got it.

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