Cellphone cancer nonsense

[Muse]

Here are my two cents:

My mother died of stomach cancer. Back then, I read a lot about cancer. The OP is superb, but I would say that the mysteries of cancer have not been all unfolded yet. Scientists still don't understand cancer fully. Many assumptions are based only on statistics. We don't know for certain. There are many very active people doing sports all the time and eating only healthy food who got cancer at young age. We don't really understand cancer. Because of this, we can't really consider mobiles 100% safe. There is more to it than only radiation. My 2 cents.

There are so many different kinds of cancer. Different people have different genetic makeup. Add that together and you have a lot of moving targets. There won't be a magic bullet to solve this.

Cell phone radiation is likely to affect different people differently.

 

[Muse]

Cell phones are not magic. While we might not understand cancer fully, we know a lot about how microwave radiation works. We also know that phones are not putting out much else other than microwave radiation. If that microwave radiation or the electromagnetic fields around cells phones cause cancer then our whole civilization is doomed.

Speaking for myself, I rarely make or receive calls with my cell phone. And when it's in my pants pocket it's almost always in airplane mode. I assume in that mode there's no radiation to or from it. I receive very little radiation from this thing. I turn off airplane mode if I want to access the weather, but I'm not holding it up to my head. If I used my cell phone a lot to make calls I'd use a headset, hopefully.

 

[C1]

ABC NEWS: Cell Towers Causing Microwave Burns and Depression
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUNr83RhnMo&feature=youtu.be


Doctor Tells BBC Brain Tumors Are On The Rise In The Young, But They Don't know Why!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxhmwK1R9Lo&feature=youtu.be

 

[William Gaatjes]

ABC NEWS: Cell Towers Causing Microwave Burns and Depression
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUNr83RhnMo&feature=youtu.be


Doctor Tells BBC Brain Tumors Are On The Rise In The Young, But They Don't know Why!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxhmwK1R9Lo&feature=youtu.be

This is wrong news, those cell towers are supposed to be shut off when maintenance is being done.
A cell tower has of course a lot more output power than a cell phone (max 2W depending on the frequency).
Usually about 20W electrical power is consumed here in the Netherlands.
But the ERP (Effective Radiated Power) can be for example 200W because of the antenna gain.
This is not a perpetual device, it just means that the rf waves are bundled and focused together by the shape of the antenna like an optic lens does with light waves.
What this means is there are locations near the antenna where there are almost no rf waves and there is a location/direction where the presence of the rf waves is very high.

It is unwise practice to work on or near any antenna while the transmitter is still active.
RF hobbyists can tell you a lot about it.

Imagine fm radio transmitters that broadcast at a few hundred kilowatts.

 

[C1]

Yes, and vehicles are supposed to not run stop lights and air bags shouldnt blow shrapnel, hospitals shouldnt make lethal medical mistakes and microsoft shouldnt release crap.

 

[William Gaatjes]

Yes, and vehicles are supposed to not run stop lights and air bags shouldnt blow shrapnel, hospitals shouldnt make lethal medical mistakes and microsoft shouldnt release crap.

Well, just abandon all technology because people refuse to handle it correctly. Live in a cave.
I can understand that the guy being interviewed does not want to work near those cell towers.
I also understand how these kind of situations happen, company a needs to do work on the roof, contacts company b about the cell towers. Company b contacts company c and so on. And what happens is because of all the administration it all becomes very inflexible, and someone at company a makes the decision to send people out to work very near those functioning towers while not thinking about the consequences for their employees.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Well, just abandon all technology because people refuse to handle it correctly. Live in a cave.

NIMBY is the shortform for wanting the benefits of technology without paying the costs.

 

[William Gaatjes]

Yeah, that is often the case. But there can be serious health issues near a cell tower when being present in one of the lobes of the antenna gain.


For those interested : information about antenna gain :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antenna_gain

In electromagnetics, an antenna's power gain or simply gain is a key performance number which combines the antenna's directivity and electrical efficiency. As a transmitting antenna, the gain describes how well the antenna converts input power into radio waves headed in a specified direction.

In theory, an antenna radiates the electromagnetic waves in the same amount in all directions from a point source, like in a spherical manner.
In reality, because of laws of nature every antenna has some form of antenna gain. Now, when antenna are designed, they are designed usually to take advantage of antenna gain by building the antenna in a certain shape or adding a reflector. In the picture below, the antenna has lobes where the em energy is highest.
That means there are locations around the antenna you notice almost nothing like behind the antenna and there is a location like in front of the antenna where signal is strong.
If you noticed, these antenna are usually located three at a time, every 120 degrees with the strong radiating part facing outwards. But this not always the case.

It would be nice if someone more knowledgable then me could explain the physics behind it. I am not sure if it has something to do with the double slit principle.
It has something to do with the electrical energy standing as longitudal waves over the antenna. But that is all i know.

Nice booklet , good explained :

www.kathrein.pl/down/BasicAntenna.pdf