Cement Slab ramblers, good or bad?

[krwell]

I'm currently looking at a 25 year old rambler that was built on a cement slab. I've heard good and bad things about cement slabs. What do you guys think of them?

 

[JC]

Slab's OK, as long as it's not on expansive or shifting soil. This I know (now )

 

[ThisIsMatt]

What's a rambler? Most houses around here are on slabs...

 

[krwell]

Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
What's a rambler? Most houses around here are on slabs...

A rambler is a 1 story home. The problem I heard with cement slab ramblers is that the plumbing is in the cement. So if a pipe breaks or needs to be replaced you have to tear up the cement.

 

[cavemanmoron]

Rambler was a car made in the late 50's,thru the 60's

look here

and here,better.

 

[JC]

Originally posted by: cavemanmoron
Rambler was a car made in the late 50's,thru the 60's

look here

and here,better.

lol

Skoorb Effect! Best to read the thread before posting....

 

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[cavemanmoron]

Originally posted by: JC

Originally posted by: cavemanmoron
Rambler was a car made in the late 50's,thru the 60's

look here

and here,better.

lol

Skoorb Effect! Best to read the thread before posting....

i have heard of,and been inside "Ranch" type houses
The Single Story Basic Postwar House: The Basic Ranch and the Cape Cod



Although it came in various forms, the basic postwar single-story and story-and-a-half American house was a distinctive building type.

Ranch House: The term ?ranch house? refers to a wide variety of one-story dwellings with low pitched roofs. These houses ranged from fairly large, rambling structures to the small ?basic ranch? discussed here. The term was popularized in California between the wars by architects like Cliff May who used imagery from Western farming properties in order to create an informal, asymmetrical building type. It appears that it was primarily the term and not the building type that was taken over for use in houses of this type in the Chicago area.

Cape Cod: The term ?Cape Cod? refers to a story-and-a-half cottage commonly built in new England in the Colonial period but also revived in the late nineteenth century for use across much of America. The postwar Cape Cod abandoned many of the specific stylistic features of the earlier house type, retaining primarily the simple massing. The Cape Cod and the Ranch are really variants of the same building type, the Cape Cod having a higher pitched roof that allowed for a small upstairs attic space that could be finished off into additional living space.

Design Features: In the case of either the Ranch or the Cape Cod, the building type itself was actually a transformation of the late nineteenth century worker?s cottage and the interwar Chicago bungalow. Like the bungalow a typical Cape Cod or basic Ranch house had a minimal plan with four to six rooms and less than 1,000 sq. feet of living space. The biggest difference between the bungalow and the ranch was that the prewar bungalow usually sat on a lot no wider than 25 to 33 feet. This meant that the house was set at right angles to the street with the gable fronting the street and circulation through the house through a set of public rooms on one side of the building with bedrooms and bathes opening off of these rooms. In the ranch house the larger typical postwar lot, usually 50 or 60 feet wide, allowed the building to be turned ninety degrees so that the long side of the house faced the street and the roof ridge ran parallel to it. This allowed for a more compact plan and more window area without sacrificing privacy. In the Ranch and Cape Cod the living room and kitchen usually occupy one side of the house and bedrooms the other. This arrangement allowed all rooms to occupy a corner of the house and hence benefit from windows on two sides. In the Cape Cod two small bedrooms often occupied the half story under the roof. One of the most common and perhaps most conspicuous design features of this building type was the large ?picture window? on the front of the house, allowing a view from the living room to the street. There was often a matching window from the kitchen allowing for a good view into the back yard.

Location: Ranch houses and Cape Cod cottages are widely scattered throughout the metropolitan area in virtually every area constructed for families of modest income. The largest band occurs in a great arc some 4 to 6 miles from the Chicago Loop across South Side communities of Chicago, through Western suburbs like Oak Lawn, Bedford Park, Brookfield Maywood, Melrose Park, Franklin Park and through the northernmost tier of the North Side of Chicago and inner suburbs like Niles and Morton Grove. There also tends to be a band of Cape Cods and ranch houses around the prewar nucleus of a great many established railroad suburbs further out.

Construction: Typical construction for these houses was standard 2X4 frame construction clad in clapboard or masonry veneer. For reasons of economy they usually had only a crawl space and no basement. The Cape Cods usually had an unfinished attic. This was often converted into additional rooms.

Illustration: Cape Cod house at 8220 S. Merrimac Avenue, Burbank, constructed 1954. Drawings by Rafal Banik, 2000.





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[Cyberian]

Originally posted by: cavemanmoron
Rambler was a car made in the late 50's,thru the 60's

And most them performed pretty much like Cement Slabs.

 

[ThisIsMatt]

Originally posted by: krwell

Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
What's a rambler? Most houses around here are on slabs...

A rambler is a 1 story home. The problem I heard with cement slab ramblers is that the plumbing is in the cement. So if a pipe breaks or needs to be replaced you have to tear up the cement.

Well, from what I've seen all the plumbing (save drain pipes) is in the walls and attic, except the initial entrance pipe, but even in my house that comes up along side the house and then goes into the wall. I've never seen a house built around here that had any pipes in the slab except for drain pipes.

 

[cavemanmoron]

the one problem with Some of the slab built homes around here,is Some,had the heat in piping laid into the concrete before it was poured,
this is usally ok for about 40-50 years,and then that type of heat around this area,ends up being replaced with,usually,baseboard hot water heat.

where the water sewer pieps,and sometimes electricity wires,come thru the slab,is normally not a problem.

get an engineer to look at the house,if you like it.
yu can find an inspector in the yellow pages.

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[JC]

Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt

Originally posted by: krwell

Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
What's a rambler? Most houses around here are on slabs...

A rambler is a 1 story home. The problem I heard with cement slab ramblers is that the plumbing is in the cement. So if a pipe breaks or needs to be replaced you have to tear up the cement.

Well, from what I've seen all the plumbing (save drain pipes) is in the walls and attic, except the initial entrance pipe, but even in my house that comes up along side the house and then goes into the wall. I've never seen a house built around here that had any pipes in the slab except for drain pipes.

Yeah, my water pipes are in the attic. Only the drain pipes are under the slab. But I have seen some (older) houses that have the water pipes in the slab, and those owners did complain of problems due to that arrangement.

 

[Cyberian]

Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt

Originally posted by: krwell

Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
What's a rambler? Most houses around here are on slabs...

A rambler is a 1 story home. The problem I heard with cement slab ramblers is that the plumbing is in the cement. So if a pipe breaks or needs to be replaced you have to tear up the cement.

Well, from what I've seen all the plumbing (save drain pipes) is in the walls and attic, except the initial entrance pipe, but even in my house that comes up along side the house and then goes into the wall. I've never seen a house built around here that had any pipes in the slab except for drain pipes.

I'm sure you know about your own home, but I believe that the original Levittown homes had the pipes for heat located in the slab.