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DrPizza

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Similar chain sharpness?
Just as, if not more important, "same engine size?"

I'd recommend against Poulan. They're more like the econo version of Husqvarna. I picked up a nice Huskie last year; love it edit:445. Most important advantage over the previous saws I've had: vibration isolation. OMG, if you've used a saw without it, then switch to a saw with it, you'll never go back. My hands would be numb after an hour with a Poulan. I can cut for hours with that Huskie effortlessly.
 
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Vdubchaos

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Congratulations, you're part of the problem, Typhoid Gary.

Yeah, and tell me something. What prevents a free roaming/flight capable insect from simply going into another territory.

You see my friend, you can't stop the nature....

Besides, any wood I get from anywhere I will be checking for spiders,termite damage, Beatles and especially ticks......

I don't want to bring any of those onto my property

Just as, if not more important, "same engine size?"

I'd recommend against Poulan. They're more like the econo version of Husqvarna. I picked up a nice Huskie last year; love it. Bigger engine (off the top of my head, I can't remember; high 30's cc though). Most important advantage over the previous saws I've had: vibration isolation. OMG, if you've used a saw without it, then switch to a saw with it, you'll never go back. My hands would be numb after an hour with a Poulan. I can cut for hours with that Huskie effortlessly.

I almost picked up Huskie 445 model (which I wanted), they only had 440 and other "none model"aka Lowes model items.

Again, warranty and my experience with Echo is playing a big part as well.
 
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Vdubchaos

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I went ahead and picked it up today (local service/parts/sales center). Home depot had it for the same price but decided to support local/small business.

They ended up giving me a sweet deal too. They had a package deal for $349( that included Echo Case/chain oil/hat etc).......for $299, so that was nice.

They also were going to put it together for me but I told them I like to tinker/build stuff so perhaps that helped out a deal. They were going to just remove the case/oil etc from the bundle box but decided to just hook me up.

That was nice

Going to put it together this weekend and give it a whirl/start collecting firewood.
 

jagec

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Yeah, and tell me something. What prevents a free roaming/flight capable insect from simply going into another territory.

You see my friend, you can't stop the nature....

These insects don't take sudden hundred-mile trips across the country, particularly not across lands that don't contain their preferred species of tree. And nature was doing a perfectly good job keeping species in their native areas until we starting carting random goods across the globe in ships with narry a thought about the ecology of the new location.

It hasn't been "nature" that is driving the current great extinction event...it's people who don't give a damn.

You don't get to play with matches and then say that it was "inevitable" that your house burned down.
 

lxskllr

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Keep your eyes open along roadways. You don't need a big truck if you only get a bit at a time. Crews trim around powerlines and roads, and leave the wood in place. All you have to do is pick it up. Throw it in the minivan, and keep looking. You don't get your pick of wood, but you can't beat the price.

I'm helping cleanup my back neighbor's lot as time and my back are good. They don't burn much wood, so between the stuff I do, and the wood their son cut up, I have probably 5 cords at my disposal.

Btw, Poulan Pros don't get much respect, but I like mine as light suburban saw. I wouldn't recommend it for serious use, but mine's paid for itself twice over, cleaning up after storms. I used to use hand tools only, but I'm getting too old and decrepit for that crap anymore.

One of my big piss offs is Scandinavian bow saws/blades are getting hard to find. Everything is Chinese, and I don't buy serious tools from China. I recently broke down and got $5 machete from HarborFreight. I should know better, but... The handle looked like it was getting loose, so I tried tightening it up. It was screwed on. After destroying one of the screws with a single twist(???) I realized it was a plastic fake screw. I turned it over, and it had real screws in the other side. I gave them all a little twist, and got back to work. After a couple whacks, the handle fell apart in my hand. They somehow decided plastic mounts were a good material for an impact tool :^S I need to get a real machete. I'd like a Woodman's Pal, but with a longer blade. I used to have one, but it got stolen. I'll probably get a Barteaux and Sons. They're well made. I used to have one, but the blade broke. I ground a new handle, and wrapped it in rope. That's ok, but a little short now.
 

DrPizza

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I almost picked up Huskie 445 model (which I wanted), they only had 440 and other "none model"aka Lowes model items.

I went out to the garage to check. It's the 445 model I picked up. Not sure what I was thinking of earlier - maybe the weed trimmer or something. But, compared to the Poulan's (plural; I wore out a couple of them) I had before the Huskie, this thing is awesome. Especially, as I mentioned, the vibration control. If you're checking out chainsaws, definitely see how that works on some of the models before you settle for one without.

edit: here's a picture of the tree that the Poulan almost finished. (Poulan went to the grave before the tree was done.) The Huskie cut up that main trunk like it was butter - never bogged down; had the power to push that chain through it. The Poulan whimpered its way through the bigger logs and never made it to the trunk. http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/drpizza/mapletree.JPG
edit edit: yep, those are my chainsaw clothes (except for safety goggles - I do wear a prescriptoin pair of goggles.)
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/drpizza/mapletree.JPG
 
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Vdubchaos

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These insects don't take sudden hundred-mile trips across the country, particularly not across lands that don't contain their preferred species of tree. And nature was doing a perfectly good job keeping species in their native areas until we starting carting random goods across the globe in ships with narry a thought about the ecology of the new location.

It hasn't been "nature" that is driving the current great extinction event...it's people who don't give a damn.

You don't get to play with matches and then say that it was "inevitable" that your house burned down.

CT is small, we are talking 5-10 maybe 20 mile distance between already invaded territory and none invaded.

Just a matter of time before it happens naturally.....
 

Vdubchaos

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Keep your eyes open along roadways. You don't need a big truck if you only get a bit at a time. Crews trim around powerlines and roads, and leave the wood in place. All you have to do is pick it up. Throw it in the minivan, and keep looking. You don't get your pick of wood, but you can't beat the price.

I'm helping cleanup my back neighbor's lot as time and my back are good. They don't burn much wood, so between the stuff I do, and the wood their son cut up, I have probably 5 cords at my disposal.

Btw, Poulan Pros don't get much respect, but I like mine as light suburban saw. I wouldn't recommend it for serious use, but mine's paid for itself twice over, cleaning up after storms. I used to use hand tools only, but I'm getting too old and decrepit for that crap anymore.

One of my big piss offs is Scandinavian bow saws/blades are getting hard to find. Everything is Chinese, and I don't buy serious tools from China. I recently broke down and got $5 machete from HarborFreight. I should know better, but... The handle looked like it was getting loose, so I tried tightening it up. It was screwed on. After destroying one of the screws with a single twist(???) I realized it was a plastic fake screw. I turned it over, and it had real screws in the other side. I gave them all a little twist, and got back to work. After a couple whacks, the handle fell apart in my hand. They somehow decided plastic mounts were a good material for an impact tool :^S I need to get a real machete. I'd like a Woodman's Pal, but with a longer blade. I used to have one, but it got stolen. I'll probably get a Barteaux and Sons. They're well made. I used to have one, but the blade broke. I ground a new handle, and wrapped it in rope. That's ok, but a little short now.

Yep, I will be out and about when storms come.

Might even help out some neighbors if needed.

Heck if I see a house with a tree down I might even make extra cash on the side....and get free firewood.

Besides, I'm planning on buying land and building a house in the middle of nowhere one day, chainsaw will be needed.
 

Vdubchaos

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OP, if you haven't already, check your local pawn shops for a deal on a good chainsaw.

Getting used 2 stroke is out of question for me. Sorry, way too many people neglect/abuse their equipment.

I like a fresh new start (willing to pay for it too). I'm kind of anal when it comes to keeping fresh gas/stabilizer in my equipment.

Actually I just got done reading Echo instructions and it says to empty out the tank after each use. I'm going to do that, especially since it might be good 3-5 weeks between usage.

Son just helped me put all together. Service center told me they would put it together/and start it etc but I told them I like to do these things myself hehe (perhaps that;s why I got a nice discount, who knows).

I will keep you guys posted how it goes on Sunday. Heading out with my sons to do some firewood scavenging. I had # of places already picked up. I really want to get out there before vegetation/ticks etc are in full swing.

 

Dubb

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what I've been told by the most knowledgeable tree guy I've ever met:

Big saws and small climber saws: stihl
Medium saws: Husqvarna
Small saws: don't discount corded AC saws, like the Husq 316E They work pretty well for smaller jobs and are much lower maintenance.

He also recommended avoiding ethanol containing gas since it's harder on the engines. pure-gas.org lists stations.
 

Blain

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Noticed we have been spending WAY too much money on Firewood last year. Between our fire pit at home and Camping we blew at least $500 last year alone.

Since we enjoy fires and have them quite frequently I figured it would be a good time to invest into a chainsaw.

I have a minivan.
I'm not going to fill it up completely anyways (still need room for wheel barrel/saw etc.) I'm not worrying about that and I'm not talking about truckloads of wood, just enough for occasional (once a week fire).

I will be out and about when storms come.
Might even help out some neighbors if needed.
For small/handy occasional cutting of sub-12" wood, I would have recommended a Tanaka 32cc Top Handle model.
 

Vdubchaos

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For small/handy occasional cutting of sub-12" wood, I would have recommended a Tanaka 32cc Top Handle model.

I checked out and held couple of top handle Echos when I bought mine. They felt a bit small.

I wanted something bigger (18") for future proofing I guess.
 

echo4747

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Getting used 2 stroke is out of question for me. Sorry, way too many people neglect/abuse their equipment.



Actually I just got done reading Echo instructions and it says to empty out the tank after each use. I'm going to do that, especially since it might be good 3-5 weeks between usage.




It probably is good practice to empty the fuel tank between usage. I've had my echo saws since 1995 (both 2 cycle) and never emptied the fuel ever. I've had them sit at times over a year maybe longer.. they always start 2-3 pulls (I just press the primer bulb 2-3 times pull the choke knob out and start it up) I do use synthetic 2 cycle oil though.
For the serious firewood burner; the biggest mistake is buying a chainsaw that is too large (1st saw I bought was an echo with 20in bar then i bought another with a 16in bar) When cutting wood all day you really appreciate the less fatigue using lighter weight saw. Whatever saw you get get a couple extra chains for it when your chain gets dull just swap it out with a sharp one so you can keep going. Then whenever you are finished you can sharpen them yourself or take them to get sharpened
 
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Vdubchaos

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It probably is good practice to empty the fuel tank between usage. I've had my echo saws since 1995 (both 2 cycle) and never emptied the fuel ever. I've had them sit at times over a year maybe longer.. they always start 2-3 pulls (I just press the primer bulb 2-3 times pull the choke knob out and start it up) I do use synthetic 2 cycle oil though.
For the serious firewood burner; the biggest mistake is buying a chainsaw that is too large (1st saw I bought was an echo with 20in bar then i bought another with a 16in bar) When cutting wood all day you really appreciate the less fatigue using lighter weight saw. Whatever saw you get get a couple extra chains for it when your chain gets dull just swap it out with a sharp one so you can keep going. Then whenever you are finished you can sharpen them yourself or take them to get sharpened

Yep I was reading Synthetic is recommended.

My say is able to accept 16 or even 14in bars (I believe) but in general it's nice and compact, I like it. Even my son was able to handle it nicely (he is 12)...but of course he won't be using it for few more years (but is certainly looking forward to using it).

Told him it would be his one day.......

I leave gas for 2-4 months in my lawn equipment too btw, and never had issues. But if it helps I can adjust if needed. Will probably take out gas out of weedwacker going forward. It's no big deal anyways and if it prolongs the unit for few years.....that's great.
 

spaceman

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ive had my small echo for 7 yrs now
occasional duty,ocassional tree/ and wood stuff
always starts, very pleased with it
 

adairusmc

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Make sure whatever gas you use has no ethanol in it, or you use some star-tron fuel treatment if you absolutely must use gas with ethanol.

I leave gas in my lawnmower, 4 stroke weed eater, and my chainsaw treated with star tron and never had an issue. Always non-ethanol gas though.

I keep 20 gallons or so of non-ethanol gas on hand at all times for my snowmobiles and ATV's, so its not a big deal for me.

As for oil, I use the same oil I use in my wifes two-joke snowmobile, but it is overpriced for just chainsaw use (redline synthetic two-joke oil). I always have a ton of it because I ride a 4 stroke sled and never break out the inferior tech sled.
 

MtnMan

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And I've had it about two trouble free years and have cut probably 10 cords of oak trees in total with it.

I have the ms 290 farm boss.

To not even consider a stihl is a huge mistake.

This ^^^^

I have two, a 025 that is probably 25 years old, and a MS 270 that is about 5 years old. I have worn out a number of bars, chains and sprockets as I cut, haul, and burn about 8 - 10 cords a winter. I have replaced the air filter and plug on the old one once or twice. Used it the other day started on the 2nd or 3rd pull.

Neither saw has ever been repaired, and has never let me down when I'm out in the field.
 

echo4747

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Make sure whatever gas you use has no ethanol in it, or you use some star-tron fuel treatment if you absolutely must use gas with ethanol.

I leave gas in my lawnmower, 4 stroke weed eater, and my chainsaw treated with star tron and never had an issue. Always non-ethanol gas though.

I keep 20 gallons or so of non-ethanol gas on hand at all times for my snowmobiles and ATV's, so its not a big deal for me.

As for oil, I use the same oil I use in my wifes two-joke snowmobile, but it is overpriced for just chainsaw use (redline synthetic two-joke oil). I always have a ton of it because I ride a 4 stroke sled and never break out the inferior tech sled.

Good point... If you can get it gasoline without ethanol its a good idea for anything with a small engine.. Only one station near me still has it (its $.35-.40/gal higher) I 5gal on hand for lawmowers,rototiller,chainsaws weed wacker etc.
 

Thump553

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CT is small, we are talking 5-10 maybe 20 mile distance between already invaded territory and none invaded.

Just a matter of time before it happens naturally.....

PLEASE don't do it. I probably live half way between you two and we have been invaded by those boring insects. The state has had to clearcut at least two sections of state forest within two miles of my home because of those beetles.

It's really not worth it to f*ck up the woods to save yourself $100 on fuel-especially considering the wear and tear on your minivan, not to mention the gas cost. The DNR in CT runs lotteries for cutting in state forests and as mentioned before there is plenty of tree trimming going along the streets. I got three-four cords last fall within a mile of my house from the tree trimmer drops.
 

Vdubchaos

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PLEASE don't do it. I probably live half way between you two and we have been invaded by those boring insects. The state has had to clearcut at least two sections of state forest within two miles of my home because of those beetles.

It's really not worth it to f*ck up the woods to save yourself $100 on fuel-especially considering the wear and tear on your minivan, not to mention the gas cost. The DNR in CT runs lotteries for cutting in state forests and as mentioned before there is plenty of tree trimming going along the streets. I got three-four cords last fall within a mile of my house from the tree trimmer drops.

Again, chances are I won't be doing it, but if I do I will visually check/look for these creatures.

But again, state or ANYTHING will NOT stop the spread. You can't stop the nature.
 
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