Charles Krauthammer: I only have a few weeks left to live.

[paperfist]

So FoxNews decided that CNN's dead guy was drawing too many people to CNN for the Bourdain story and they wanted to bring audiences back to FoxNews
"Hey!! We got dying people too!!"

Bourdain died?

 

[Amused]

I can't even begin to imagine how getting news like that would feel.

No one deserves to suffer this shit. I may not have always agreed with him, but my disagreement doesn't mean he should suffer. I never saw him as a demonizer. He always seemed to directly address the issues.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

It doesn't really except on the most shallow level.

Your sense of morality is much, much different than mine. You see me as shallow, and I see you as shallow...and I'm OK with that.

 

[brycejones]

Your sense of morality is much, much different than mine. You see me as shallow, and I see you as shallow...and I'm OK with that.

How shallow

 

[pauldun170]

What Doc Savage Fan, Boomer and others is for us to have empathy and compassion for THEM.They want a group cuddle to help them validate their shared beliefs.
"Someone we never met wrote or said something we agreed with is going to die. We want you to post on a technology forum some sort of sad face or say something supportive"

Is anyone here personally impacted by this news or does the outcome just impact the your bathroom reading?

 

[Noah Abrams]

All the praise (and wealth) Mr. Krauthammer accumulated in supporting Israel's brutal oppression of Palestinians (and being an influential public person, thus being responsible for it himself) for so many years, does at this moment he feel all of that to be any use? Is it going to do him any good once he is gone? I wonder if he feels any remorse at all now..

 

[pauldun170]

Bourdain died?

Yup
My theory is that traffic being sent to CNN's main sight led to FoxNews making Krauthammer headline news.
It's a really morbid pissing match.

 

[JSt0rm]

You're right about me not remembering who shitposted here a couple of days from now. But I will remember some of those who didn't, like Commodus and MomentsofSanity. I may disagree with them on a regular basis, but I can see that they're good people at their core.

Do you think the iraq war was a good idea?

 

[pmv]

The thing about people's responses, is that he's not someone most (any?) here personally knew. So the only reason anyone knows about or has any response to this news, is the fame he gained through what he wrote. If people found that harmful, that's what they are going to respond to. If he hadn't had that kind of fame, nobody here would even be noting his (predicted) death at all. To suggest people should respond with sadness or sympathy is expecting people to give special privilege to someone they didn't even know, solely based on his being famous for writing things they found objectionable. I don't think its reasonable or realistic to expect that. At best you can hope those who found his writings to be harmful would just ignore it. But if you post it on a forum like this, that's hard for people to do.

 

[Noah Abrams]

. To suggest people should respond with sadness or sympathy is expecting people to give special privilege to someone they didn't even know, solely based on his being famous for writing things they found objectionable. .

Yes you have a point, but for me him being famous or not is besides the point really. The sadness as human can be felt on another life spent chasing fame and fortune at the cost of humanity inside. That is not at all exclusive to a famous person, political person, liberal, conservative, whatever. It is the tragedy of human condition.

 

[Blackjack200]

Let's celebrate his life with some of his greatest hits.

http://digitalcollections.library.cmu.edu/awweb/awarchive?type=file&item=410809

 

[WelshBloke]

Your sense of morality is much, much different than mine. You see me as shallow, and I see you as shallow...and I'm OK with that.

I'm not necessarily saying you are shallow but this is a public forum, it's not like people are having a go at the guy to his face.

I deal with people dying every day and some of them are really shitty people. Them dying doesn't suddenly make them better people. Now I wouldn't use that opportunity to tell their relatives how shitty they were but I'm not suddenly going to tell my colleagues how wonderful they were!

 

[paperfist]

Yup
My theory is that traffic being sent to CNN's main sight led to FoxNews making Krauthammer headline news.
It's a really morbid pissing match.

But Krauthammer posted the news himself on a site he writes for?

Man humans are perplexing. Krauthammer would probably do anything to live even a week longer and then there's Bourdain who literally was on top of the world and just killed his perfectly good self.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Yup
My theory is that traffic being sent to CNN's main sight led to FoxNews making Krauthammer headline news.
It's a really morbid pissing match.

He announced it in his WaPo column. Away from Fox.

 

[pauldun170]

But Krauthammer posted the news himself on a site he writes for?

He announced it in his WaPo column. Away from Fox.

Foxnews isn't a blog where people can post their own crap. He wrote his announcement. Outlets decide on if and where to post it on their sites
I am saying that Foxnews placed the Krauthammer piece top and center to counter CNN's Bourdain piece.

What are you guys talking about?

 

[Blackjack200]

https://www.weeklystandard.com/charles-krauthammer/the-obsolescence-of-deterrence

 

[WelshBloke]

Yes you have a point, but for me him being famous or not is besides the point really. The sadness as human can be felt on another life spent chasing fame and fortune at the cost of humanity inside. That is not at all exclusive to a famous person, political person, liberal, conservative, whatever. It is the tragedy of human condition.

But you can have empathy for a persons fate and still say that you think they were a shitty person.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

I'm not necessarily saying you are shallow but this is a public forum, it's not like people are having a go at the guy to his face.

I deal with people dying every day and some of them are really shitty people. Them dying doesn't suddenly make them better people. Now I wouldn't use that opportunity to tell their relatives how shitty they were but I'm not suddenly going to tell my colleagues how wonderful they were!

No one is asking or expecting you to say Krauthammer was wonderful, especially if you don't feel that way. But offering a modicum of respect or abstaining from comment in such sensitive matters (impending death) is indeed expected in the realm of human civility.

 

[WelshBloke]

No one is asking or expecting you to say Krauthammer was wonderful, especially if you don't feel that way. But offering a modicum of respect or abstaining from comment in such sensitive matters (impending death) is indeed expected in the realm of human civility.

It's not expected at all to abstain from talking about people honestly in private (which, in this context, this is).

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Foxnews isn't a blog where people can post their own crap. He wrote his announcement. Outlets decide on if and where to post it on their sites
I am saying that Foxnews placed the Krauthammer piece top and center to counter CNN's Bourdain piece.

What are you guys talking about?

We are talking about that he had a regular column at Washington Post where he announced it. I'm guessing Fox put it on as he was a major figure and contributor to their network. Much like Bourdain was to CNN. I don't see anything nefarious with either. It just makes sense as they were both such large figures for each network.

What should Fox have done just buried it? It's major news to their viewers.

 

[Kobota]

Your sense of morality is much, much different than mine. You see me as shallow, and I see you as shallow...and I'm OK with that.

Your sense of morality allows for cheering the destruction of policy that allows millions to get medical care.

 

[Amused]

Let's celebrate his life with some of his greatest hits.

http://digitalcollections.library.cmu.edu/awweb/awarchive?type=file&item=410809

The problem was, crack babies was not a political term, but a medical overreaction. It was a healthcare panic. Not a political invention. Blaming him for writing about the panic the healthcare industry was spreading is not his fault. The root of this is the medical industry's in depth experience with fetal alcohol syndrome being knee-jerkedly applied to crack and cocaine. Something they had no long term experience with.

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126478643

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Your sense of morality allows for cheering the destruction of policy that allows millions to get medical care.

Derp.

 

[kage69]

That's sad news. Krauthammer has always been a bit of an enigma to me. I've seen him echo the most pathetic of talking points, yet also have seen him take positions of principle that put him at odds with allies. In a way he falls right between Bill Kristol and Shepard Smith. I'm hesitant to go into detail given the subject is a dead man walking.

Politics aside I've always felt he got dealt a shitty deck, and I think his comments here speak well of him (to the degree they can after his Bush era exploits). Maybe it's because I'm still messed up over Bourdain, but I for one wish this man no pain, with an exit of his choosing surrounded by family and friends.

 

[Thebobo]

I've seen him on FOX few times, use to be on The Bill Riley Show I think it was? Couple times he surprised me with an opinion he had. Looks like he was always struggling to speak physically wise. Dont remember him in his early days.