Charlie Brown, you dirty racist, you.

[dank69]

Still want to see the LAW that states such. Haven't yet seen anything even suggesting such. Please inform me with links to actual codified law. Thanks.

Yeah I don't know of any laws either. I am just guessing he is conflating separation of church and state issues with other issues. I guarantee his "news" sources deliberately mislead him all the time.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Huh? Since when were rules about businesses choosing who they served, in place to protect the safety of the business-owners themselves? What's the relevance of that incident? At least _try_ to make a logical argument. Did you not notice the bit where I said '....if it affects others'?

(Actually I'm not 100% sure about the bakery incident - it seems to me that bakeries are rarely a monopoly, nor are they specially licenced providers of critical services, so I wouldn't put it in the same class as, say, a pharmacist refusing to provide the morning-after pill...you could argue its still a form of discrimination, but either way it has little in common with the motorbike helmet law).

The Hobby Lobby thing was one of those bizarre 'only in America' cases. "Corporations are people", er, OK, if you say so, it's not that American conservatives are crazy (even compared to other conservatives), and the US system of government deeeply flawed. Not at all, who could possibly think that?

I’d say refusing to service someone or refusing to give standard healthcare to an employee effects them the someone else...

 

[pmv]

I’d say refusing to service someone or refusing to give standard healthcare to an employee effects them the someone else...

Are we speaking different languages? You do realise that's _exactly_ what I just said! But you seemed to disagree. What is your disagreement?

To spell it out - my point was the motorbike helmet law does _not_ affect others, it's about protecting people from themselves. Ergo religious exemptions are easier to justify. Conversely, in cases that affect others, like refusing healthcare religious exemptions are usually not justified, and the hobby-lobby ruling was nuts. So just what is it that you are disagreeing with here?

Though the hobby-lobby thing seems to be at least as much about the worship of corporations and money as anything to do with religion. It's actually a topic I remember arguing with an American liberal friend over, as an example of my distrust of the US fixation on 'freedom of religion', which to my mind just compounds the general bias of the US system towards the politically and economically dominant groups.

 

[zinfamous]

The turban thing was just an example. There is lot of shit like this that goes on because of special snow flakes who wan things to be different just for 1 group. Most cartoons that we grew up with are now suddenly too offensive and get sensored if they air. It's illegal to wish someone a Merry Christmas in certain settings because people get offended at the word Christ being in Christmas, I could go on. This stuff comes up all the time, and it's getting out of hand. SJWs need to be sent to summer camp in North Korea for a week so they can have something real to complain about.

Out of all places I would not have figured people on this forum would be vouching for the SJWs and disagreeing with me that they are ridiculous. I'm not even die hard conservative either, being die hard on any side is ridiculous, they both have their positives but also both have their negatives if too extreme.

But I guess that's a bit off topic, but was just an example of how ridiculous things are getting with the SJW movement.

snowflakes are the little bitches complaining about "Happy Holidays," among various other harmless habits of a normally-functioning society of people, especially when those snowflakes are too terrified to leave their snow-banked tundra to venture more than a couple of miles to actually learn about what the rest of world is like; in lieu of having that shit forced down their throats by dubious internet sources and just bilssfully assume it's true because it "sounds good enough!"

 

[Jaskalas]

To spell it out - my point was the motorbike helmet law does _not_ affect others, it's about protecting people from themselves.

Eh? While that may be primarily true...
The rate of fatality with motor accidents certainly involves whoever else may have hit the motorbike. Reducing the risk of fatality has got to benefit the other party involved in the accident in some way.

Conversely, in cases that affect others, like refusing healthcare religious exemptions are usually not justified, and the hobby-lobby ruling was nuts.

The employer should be removed from the healthcare equation altogether. That ruling is a symptom of the larger problem.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Just leftists creating racism for the sake of creating racism, again. They manufacture it as needed to keep minorities on the plantation.

 

[skooma]

The Hill is a rightwing rag.

When trumpo first got elected I thought they were pretty trumpian and certainly right leaning. But I give them credit for actually centering some, distantcing themselves from the obviously complicit comgress at the time and awaking to the reality of the clown reality tv president, broadcasting his nonsensical basemeat from his studio.

 

[umbrella39]

When OC can't express enough concern all on his own we need others to bring such earth shattering dumbfuckery to the boards... as usual... these kinds of 'stories' speak volumes about those who first off... even know of their existance and secondly... pretend to care... what sort of mailing list do i need to join to get such concerning 'stories' in my mailbox q4 hours?

 

[Jaskalas]

When OC can't express enough concern all on his own we need others to bring such earth shattering dumbfuckery to the boards... as usual... these kinds of 'stories' speak volumes about those who first off... even know of their existance and secondly... pretend to care... what sort of mailing list do i need to join to get such concerning 'stories' in my mailbox q4 hours?

Drudge and Fox News aren't exactly the far ends of the earth. You cite the OP, the OP cited Fox News. Pretty obvious how he heard of it.

 

[HeXen]

Appears some do not understand evolution of society and don't tolerate changes very well, even the most subtle of complaints made to evolve changes into new trends in ideals, ethics that serve to either be more fair or be more kind. Rather you guys see it as an attack on your old archaic ideology as you hide behind a false concept of thicker skin as an excuse to accept others negativity.

So what's wrong with wanting to see a single black kid that's seated in the only crappy chair all by himself? Well probably because ideally he should be sitting in the same chair drawn, sitting side by side with his friends as the others instead of being the left over kid because in reality all those kids to the right side would want more elbow room ammirite?

Why complain about those complaining for better equality in everything? The cartoon is from another time period, that's the excuse of course even though that scene could be easily updated by drawing a few more characters and considering the revenue that episode creates, they can afford to update it for future generations or just stop showing it on TV like they do with the other old and more obvious racist cartoons of the past. It's not like there's a shortage of more appropriate ones being created for modern times and more to the point that it's these little things that many may not notice that get subliminally instilled into us.

Now if there was a scene with Charlie Brown in a broken chair on one side of the table to himself amongst all other black kids then it would stand out a lot more to most people simply because it's not what our society is used to seeing as common on TV, even for blacks because they are only 12 % of the population in general. But I either way you want to view it, I don't get what's wrong with any ideology that treats people with more kindness without attacking them as having thin skin. You don't have to be sensitive to feel the kindness of being treated with respect and prefer that over negativity and equally to see this being represented in all media alike. so why are you fighting against that with your thick skin bullshit?

 

[umbrella39]

Drudge and Fox News aren't exactly the far ends of the earth. You cite the OP, the OP cited Fox News. Pretty obvious how he heard of it.

LMFAO! Concern duly noted... Yeah, I'm sure that's how the concern was brought to his attention. Out before the concern morphs to victimization...

 

[Jhhnn]

When right wing propagandists need something to froth up the base they contrive ridiculous outrage on the left via twitter trolls. Faux obliges them by making it news.

I seriously doubt that more than a very few people see the Charlie Brown cartoon as racist. But Faux viewers are convinced that their numbers are legion, and threatening their way of life.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

People should go to the tweet. Turns out that Franklin was a guest of honor getting the most comfy chair. Twitter pretty much ate the guy Fox was trying to sell as some kind of norm of the left.

Next the NYP says Dems need to worry about Assange because he might reveal details of the "unsolved murder of someone who outed the DNC". Oh wait, they just did the other day.

 

[Jhhnn]

People should go to the tweet. Turns out that Franklin was a guest of honor getting the most comfy chair. Twitter pretty much ate the guy Fox was trying to sell as some kind of norm of the left.

Next the NYP says Dems need to worry about Assange because he might reveal details of the "unsolved murder of someone who outed the DNC". Oh wait, they just did the other day.

Nice conspiracy theory. Meanwhile, Faux viewers are convinced that Libs really believe that bullshit about Charlie Brown. It's straight out of the Russian disinformation playbook from the 80's.

 

[HomerJS]

Fox News just pulled as fast one to gin up their misinformed base (proven by surveys) to turn sarcastic responses from people who actually care about racism into a boycott of Charles Schultz.

Funny I grew up watching the Charlie Brown specials and I never remember that picture because never paid attention to the Thansgiving episode. I watched Christmas, Halloween and Valentine's Day.

Is that picture the way layed out discriminatory? Yes. Is it worth spending any energy on it? No. That's why people are poking fun at it. But the editorial board at Fox the ones with sticks up their asses can't even stand people making fun of racism.

It's not going to stop me from watching any of those specials, in fact I'll be watching the Grinch and Charlie Brown this Christmas.

Happy Holidays, bitches!!

As a side note someone mentioned Charles took steps to include a black character because it was tough in 1968. In 1966 a television show debuted that was way ahead of its time on the subject of diversity called Star Trek. Funny now in 2018 most of us applaud that kind on inclusiveness.

 

[Perknose]

Still want to see the LAW that states such. Haven't yet seen anything even suggesting such. Please inform me with links to actual codified law. Thanks.

I second that request.

 

[pmv]

Eh? While that may be primarily true...
The rate of fatality with motor accidents certainly involves whoever else may have hit the motorbike. Reducing the risk of fatality has got to benefit the other party involved in the accident in some way.

As a cyclist and non-driver, I'm just a bit cynical and jaded at being told how awful and traumatic it would be for a driver to kill me. Don't kill me then, would be my response - look where you are going and drive more slowly.


Besides, although motorbikers have the highest fatality rate of any form of road transport, most of those fatalities are single-vehicle, or essentially due to the speed and momentum of the motorcyclist themselves (unlike pedal cyclists, where the cause is most frequently an error by the driver of the motorised vehicle - the one who brings the kinetic energy to the event).


Either way, the Sikh helmet-exemption is not something I can bring myself to care about, and it seems a bit desperate to cite it as a grievance against the religious. There are certainly potential cases where I'd oppose religious exemptions. In particular I think it's outrageous that in this country we have state-funded religious schools that are allowed to discrinminate against potential staff or students on religious grounds. At least the US avoids that one thanks to correctly trying to keep church and state apart.

The employer should be removed from the healthcare equation altogether. That ruling is a symptom of the larger problem.

No disagreement there, but I'm just speaking within the confines of how things work in the US at the moment.

 

[sdifox]

Wow, it's ridiculous how far the SJW movement is going, and it's ruining everything. What pisses me off is that because they make the most noise, they actually get listened to and sometimes ridiculous laws get passed because of them.

It's kinda how Muslims get all sorts of special treatment that other religions don't, such as not having to wear a helmet when riding a motorcycle. Anybody else would get charged.

Those are not Muslims... Sikhs are the ones with turban on their head.

 

[IronWing]

How do they get them to stay on at highway speeds?

 

[sdifox]

How do they get them to stay on at highway speeds?

Slowly is my guess.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Those are not Muslims... Sikhs are the ones with turban on their head.

I was mistaken and corrected it in another post but that's besides the point. My point was that minorities should not be able to just come here and change our laws because it offends them. We see this a lot, the motorcycle one was just an example.

 

[IronWing]

I was mistaken and corrected it in another post but that's besides the point. My point was that minorities should not be able to just come here and change our laws because it offends them. We see this a lot, the motorcycle one was just an example.

Your law is biased in favor of Christians. Are you good with that?

 

[sdifox]

I was mistaken and corrected it in another post but that's besides the point. My point was that minorities should not be able to just come here and change our laws because it offends them. We see this a lot, the motorcycle one was just an example.

Oh, which other laws offended you? Reasonable Accommodation is a thing.

 

[Red Squirrel]

snowflakes are the little bitches complaining about "Happy Holidays," among various other harmless habits of a normally-functioning society of people, especially when those snowflakes are too terrified to leave their snow-banked tundra to venture more than a couple of miles to actually learn about what the rest of world is like; in lieu of having that shit forced down their throats by dubious internet sources and just bilssfully assume it's true because it "sounds good enough!"

More like the bitches complaining about Merry Christmas, or getting offended at red coffee cups. It's pretty sad that stores and other places can't even put anything that says Merry Christmas anymore because it offends people. And what the hell is a holiday tree? A palm tree? A holiday is when you go to a hot country for a week. lol.

 

[IronWing]

More like the bitches complaining about Merry Christmas, or getting offended at red coffee cups. It's pretty sad that stores and other places can't even put anything that says Merry Christmas anymore because it offends people. And what the hell is a holiday tree? A palm tree? A holiday is when you go to a hot country for a week. lol.

Have you met any of these offended people in real life?