CHASE ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

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JS80

Lifer
Oct 24, 2005
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Originally posted by: MTDEW
I keep all my passwords in a file on my external hard drive along with all my backup software/saves and complete image of my pc's hard drive.
And i never plug in that external hard drive unless i need to grab a file off of it or restore my pc.
And of course important data is encrypted.

Admittedly sometimes its a pain to keep the external hard drive's files updated as i go.
But its well worth the effort cuz theres no way on earth i can remember all my username and passwords especially when im forced to change them periodically.

what do you if the HD fails or gets stolen or your house burns down?
 

Terabyte

Diamond Member
Dec 19, 1999
3,875
0
71
I still have the message on my Wamu page - "Over the next few weeks, we'll ask you to change your User Name to transition your account access to Chase OnlineSM. Learn more." Chase/Wamu hasn't asked me to change my user name...

Unfortunately, I have a Chase bank account / 1 cc through them (before Chase bought Wamu) and a Wamu account. I'll probably have two separate accounts when they transition my Wamu over to Chase....
 

MTDEW

Diamond Member
Oct 31, 1999
4,284
37
91
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: MTDEW
I keep all my passwords in a file on my external hard drive along with all my backup software/saves and complete image of my pc's hard drive.
And i never plug in that external hard drive unless i need to grab a file off of it or restore my pc.
And of course important data is encrypted.

Admittedly sometimes its a pain to keep the external hard drive's files updated as i go.
But its well worth the effort cuz theres no way on earth i can remember all my username and passwords especially when im forced to change them periodically.

what do you if the HD fails or gets stolen or your house burns down?

Well i have a backup house with a backup hard drive with a theft security system located next to my local firestation.
Doesnt everyone?

 

waffleironhead

Diamond Member
Aug 10, 2005
6,941
457
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I had this exact same problem with my online billpay. I emailed them and told them it is actually less safe to require me to change my password so often as then i will be forced to write it down somewhere rather than memorizing it. They happily edited my account so i do not have to change it. They do send emails reminding me that it is in my best interest to change it, but no longer is required.

This is something I go on about at work as well. The network admins require changes way too often, but then again the idiots dont set a password history, so every month I change it then change it back right way.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
55,418
1,599
126
Originally posted by: Terabyte
I still have the message on my Wamu page - "Over the next few weeks, we'll ask you to change your User Name to transition your account access to Chase OnlineSM. Learn more." Chase/Wamu hasn't asked me to change my user name...

Unfortunately, I have a Chase bank account / 1 cc through them (before Chase bought Wamu) and a Wamu account. I'll probably have two separate accounts when they transition my Wamu over to Chase....

I now have like 4-5 usernames...
 

Appledrop

Platinum Member
Aug 25, 2004
2,340
0
0
you know whats funny? shit like this makes it less secure as people have to make notes of their password
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
68,483
12,622
126
www.anyf.ca
someone had done a "study" where I work and like 70% of people have their password under their keyboard LOL. Sometimes strict password policies actually revert the whole purpose and forces people to write down their passwords.

Personally I think 8 char 1 cap 1 number and reset every 3 months is how it should be. Anything more and it's just ridiculous.
 

Locut0s

Lifer
Nov 28, 2001
22,205
43
91
Originally posted by: gorcorps
Hmmm... that means that Chase is keeping a database of all used passwords. Doesn't exactly sound smart or safe in any way.

No it doesn't mean that. Usually passwords are run through a one way hash algorithm that generates random garbage. The key is that it's a ONE way algorithm that generates a unique piece of garbage for each possible unique entry. It's this garbage output they keep and compare with not the original passwords and there is no mathematical way of deriving the original password from the hashed mess.
 

Aluvus

Platinum Member
Apr 27, 2006
2,913
1
0
Get KeePass or an equivalent, store passwords (and usernames) in an encrypted database, stop worrying about such things.
 

randomlinh

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
20,846
2
0
linh.wordpress.com
keepass on truecrypt volume secured by password and key file.

on top of that, I usually use pass phrases that are modified systematically with symbols and numbers. the problem of course is when I run into a damn website that has some stupid 8 or 10 character restriction and/or no symbols/spaces.
 

Shadow Conception

Golden Member
Mar 19, 2006
1,539
1
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Originally posted by: Locut0s
Originally posted by: gorcorps
Hmmm... that means that Chase is keeping a database of all used passwords. Doesn't exactly sound smart or safe in any way.

No it doesn't mean that. Usually passwords are run through a one way hash algorithm that generates random garbage. The key is that it's a ONE way algorithm that generates a unique piece of garbage for each possible unique entry. It's this garbage output they keep and compare with not the original passwords and there is no mathematical way of deriving the original password from the hashed mess.

Is there any way at all to get the original password?
 

guyver01

Lifer
Sep 25, 2000
22,135
5
61
Originally posted by: Ns1
I only got 5 "master" passwords

Someone didn't bother reading my carefully prepared memo on commonly-used passwords. Now, then, as I so meticulously pointed out, the four most-used passwords are: love, sex, secret, and... god. So, would your holiness care to change her password?

 

AndrewR

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
11,157
0
0
Try having passwords on multiple government networks that require 12-15 minimum characters with lower and upper case, numbers, and special characters, and the password cannot be a word, keyboard pattern, name, or even a word or name that has special characters substituted for letters!

Oh, and I forgot: You can't use your last 5-10 passwords, depending on the network.

When are biometrics going to be reliable and available?
 

dud

Diamond Member
Feb 18, 2001
7,635
73
91
Stop complaining and do something about it.

Close your account and give your business to someone else.
 

Tiamat

Lifer
Nov 25, 2003
14,068
5
71
I write down clues that mean something to me for each of my revolving passwords and new versions of the revolving passwords. No way could I remember each of them without clues.
 

Arcadio

Diamond Member
Jun 5, 2007
5,637
24
81
My system of generating passwords and remembering them is foolproof: what I do is choose the name of one of my past girlfriends and then add the 2 or 4-digit year when we started dating. For example: Andrea98 or Lissete2003. I've using this system for years and I can always remember my passwords. Instead of girl's names you can names of anything, as long as it's something very familiar.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
83,769
19
81
the latest is at least one capital, two numbers and a number cannot end or begin the password...
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
34,543
651
126
Originally posted by: Arcadio
My system of generating passwords and remembering them is foolproof: what I do is choose the name of one of my past girlfriends and then add the 2 or 4-digit year when we started dating. For example: Andrea98 or Lissete2003. I've using this system for years and I can always remember my passwords. Instead of girl's names you can names of anything, as long as it's something very familiar.

Shens. Did you ask these girls if they'd be your girlfriend on the first date?
 

Arcadio

Diamond Member
Jun 5, 2007
5,637
24
81
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Arcadio
My system of generating passwords and remembering them is foolproof: what I do is choose the name of one of my past girlfriends and then add the 2 or 4-digit year when we started dating. For example: Andrea98 or Lissete2003. I've using this system for years and I can always remember my passwords. Instead of girl's names you can names of anything, as long as it's something very familiar.

Shens. Did you ask these girls if they'd be your girlfriend on the first date?

No. Not really.
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
34,543
651
126
Originally posted by: Arcadio
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Arcadio
My system of generating passwords and remembering them is foolproof: what I do is choose the name of one of my past girlfriends and then add the 2 or 4-digit year when we started dating. For example: Andrea98 or Lissete2003. I've using this system for years and I can always remember my passwords. Instead of girl's names you can names of anything, as long as it's something very familiar.

Shens. Did you ask these girls if they'd be your girlfriend on the first date?

No. Not really.

Oh Really....
 

dullard

Elite Member
May 21, 2001
25,488
3,981
126
I don't mind rotating passwords too much, I just increment a letter or a number or a symbol to the next one and send myself an email reminding me of what increment I'm on.

What bothers me is massively excessive passwords to websites that don't need security. Here is an honest (old) password given to me from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation:

X:Rd+l|&a*}L

Now you tell me. In the middle there. Is that a capital letter "i", or a lower case letter "L" or the symbol over the "\" key? I really don't have a freaking clue. After multiple failed attempts I had to just ask for another password. There is no security issue there if someone broke in. It isn't like they'd have access to money or any personal information that can't be found elsewhere.
 

Rachael

Senior member
Mar 16, 2006
363
1
0
Just come up with a base password and change small aspects of it. Or do the first letter of the each word to a line from a song plus a couple of numbers at the end, and then next time do the same thing with the next line of the song.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
53,027
5,913
126
yea i have this really stupid password thing with my timesheet software at work.

i think the password resets every 6 weeks, or maybe 8 weeks. it can't be any of your past 3 passwords.

well since i only log in to this site 3 or 4 times per password, i tend to forget which one of my "master passwords" i have used. so sometimes I just keep trying them till i finally get it.

the thing is, after 3 failed password attempts, it locks your damn account and i have to go talk to someone in HR to make me a new password.

what a terrible password system.
 
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