Chavez to Venezuelans: don't celebate Halloween

[stratman]

I like him if he grants a environmental permit to a KRY. Don't shoot yourself in the foot Chavez, you need Canadian mining expertise.

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Cerb
I find myself agreeing with BarneyFife. Scary. Genuinely, though, Halloween has no meaning. It could have, but does not. It is a ritual without purpose.

And Valentines Day? Mothers Day? Fathers Day? Christmas?

EVERy holiday is "without purpose" to someone. Should we just cancel them all? Is it *really* that big of a deal if people celebrate it? Does it affect you if they celebrate it or not?

Pretty much. Of those, Christmas is the one with the most meaning.

No, it does not affect me if they celebrate it ro not. It also does not affect you. I didn't say anything about whether you could or could not celebrate a holiday. This is all about agreeing or disagreeing with a crazy SA leader's opinion on the matter, not your, my, or their freedomg to celebrate something, in large groups, on a specific day.

 

[colonel]

Hallowen is all about $$$, give me a break with the chocolate and boo.

 

[daniel49]

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: daniel49

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Condor, DÍa de los Muertos is nothing like us halloween, it is a day of family that have past.

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Congratulations your order of Chavez cheerleading uniform and pom pons has been confirmed and will be shipped on the next allowed holiday.

You gonna ship his dunce cap too? Steep, it is a little hard to ignore several million Mexicans in the street celebrating the holiday. Add to that the domestic help we had in the house and my Mexican staff that were very generous in their explanation of anything local. The shame is that Chavez has apparently forgotten that the roots of the holiday are from his civilization. Vendors sell skeletions, bats, cakes, special foods and all sorts of other things on the streets for the day.

Oh yeah, BBC got it wrong too.

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Wasn't planning on it why did he loose his other one?

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Condor
Add to that the domestic help we had in the house and my Mexican staff that were very generous in their explanation of anything local.

Like I said you obviously celebrated with a american slant, Shameful you know so little of others customs even being there for as long as you were.

Give me a break, I have lived on the west coast of over a decade and lationos DO NOT celebrate halloween in the same way as americans. It is a family day (centered around those passed on) not one of scariness.

You are just plain wrong, or the "help" were making you feel comfortable and relating to your non-catholic way of celebrating, people tend to not get very in depth with those who would not understand so it is easier to relate your situation to how they would ike to see it to be polite.

Sounds like the "help" was trying to make the beloved patriot feel comfortable and not give him too much to think about, from your posts you are not very good at thinking outside the box, I am sure you would have a brain hemmorage if you were told you were wrong, you come off as that type of guy to stick to your guns regardless if you slamming yourself into a wall over and over.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: Condor
Add to that the domestic help we had in the house and my Mexican staff that were very generous in their explanation of anything local.

Like I said you obviously celebrated with a american slant, Shameful you know so little of others customs even being there for as long as you were.

Give me a break, I have lived on the west coast of over a decade and lationos DO NOT celebrate halloween in the same way as americans. It is a family day (centered around those passed on) not one of scariness.

You are just plain wrong, or the "help" were making you feel comfortable and relating to your non-catholic way of celebrating, people tend to not get very in depth with those who would not understand so it is easier to relate your situation to how they would ike to see it to be polite.

Sounds like the "help" was trying to make the beloved patriot feel comfortable and not give him too much to think about, from your posts you are not very good at thinking outside the box, I am sure you would have a brain hemmorage if you were told you were wrong, you come off as that type of guy to stick to your guns regardless if you slamming yourself into a wall over and over.

Like you have any clue about what you are talking about.

You are like a train running off a downed bridge with no brakes. Everybody knows the eventual outcome but it is funny to watch attempts to keep it from happening.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Genx87


You are like a train running off a downed bridge with no brakes.

And you are like a train with no lights but hoping your faith will not lead you off a cliff even though everyone is telling you the bridge is out.

Once again you try to tell these white suburban people about a culture they are ignorant about and they think the american way is all their is in the world becasue they are isolated ignorant twits.

Latinos do NOT celebrate halloween like we do, matter of fact we celebrate our holidays a LOT different then most countries.

Here let me spell it out again for our southeners:

We are not a catholic country nor do we celebrate halloween like catholic nations.

Our country was founded by English which are protestant, and have a much more sinister look at halloween and ancestor worship.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: Genx87


You are like a train running off a downed bridge with no brakes.

And you are like a train with no lights but hoping your faith will not lead you off a cliff even though everyone is telling you the bridge is out.

Once again you try to tell these white suburban people about a culture they are ignorant about and they think the american way is all their is in the world becasue they are isolated ignorant twits.

Latinos do NOT celebrate halloween like we do, matter of fact we celebrate our holidays a LOT different then most countries.

Here let me spell it out again for our southeners:

We are not a catholic country nor do we celebrate halloween like catholic nations.

Our country was founded by English which are protestant, and have a much more sinister look at halloween and ancestor worship.

Well considering Condor went to the events and provided a link and all you can come up with is "Well they obviously catered their entire celebration for a few white people". Ill go with you not knowing your own ass from a hole in the ground(like usual).

 

[Steeplerot]

http://www.public.iastate.edu/~rjsalvad/scmfaq/muertos.html

Please, take your ignorance elsewhere...


# It is a holiday with a complex history, and therefore its observance varies quite a bit by region and by degree of urbanization. (Condor was in the BIGGEST CITY IN THE WORLD OF COURSE IT WAS WATERED DOWN FOR HIS CONSUMPTION AS A AMERICAN.)



# It is not a morbid occasion, but rather a festive time.

Protestant America celebrates it as a day of evil and spookiness...

It is a day of ancestor worship for catholic nations.

 

[judasmachine]

Chavz! You were actually kind of cool when you were just standing up for yourself, but now you're just being ridiculous. Isn't his country full of catholics anyway? Don't catholics thrive on this whole Halloween/All Saint's Day stuff anyway?

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~rjsalvad/scmfaq/muertos.html

Please, take your ignorance elsewhere...


# It is a holiday with a complex history, and therefore its observance varies quite a bit by region and by degree of urbanization. (Condor was in the BIGGEST CITY IN THE WORLD OF COURSE IT WAS WATERED DOWN FOR HIS CONSUMPTION AS A AMERICAN.)



# It is not a morbid occasion, but rather a festive time.

Protestant America celebrates it as a day of evil and spookiness...

It is a day of ancestor worship for catholic nations.

Of course it was, because you were sitting in your 850 dollar appt down in Manhatten lmao and have eyes that can see thousands of miles.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~rjsalvad/scmfaq/muertos.html

Please, take your ignorance elsewhere...


# It is a holiday with a complex history, and therefore its observance varies quite a bit by region and by degree of urbanization. (Condor was in the BIGGEST CITY IN THE WORLD OF COURSE IT WAS WATERED DOWN FOR HIS CONSUMPTION AS A AMERICAN.)



# It is not a morbid occasion, but rather a festive time.

Protestant America celebrates it as a day of evil and spookiness...

It is a day of ancestor worship for catholic nations.

Of course it was, because you were sitting in your 850 dollar appt down in Manhatten lmao and have eyes that can see thousands of miles.

In other words you admit you know nothing of this and use a personal attack in the face of being wrong, real mature, no wonder your views are so lost do yourself a favor and crank that window of your mind open a bit, the dust and decay coming from your head is making me sneeze.

On a related note I do NOT live on manhattan island, once again you have spouted wrong information that you could have gathered by a sinple click of my profile before shooting your mouth off again, a perfect example.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~rjsalvad/scmfaq/muertos.html

Please, take your ignorance elsewhere...


# It is a holiday with a complex history, and therefore its observance varies quite a bit by region and by degree of urbanization. (Condor was in the BIGGEST CITY IN THE WORLD OF COURSE IT WAS WATERED DOWN FOR HIS CONSUMPTION AS A AMERICAN.)



# It is not a morbid occasion, but rather a festive time.

Protestant America celebrates it as a day of evil and spookiness...

It is a day of ancestor worship for catholic nations.

Of course it was, because you were sitting in your 850 dollar appt down in Manhatten lmao and have eyes that can see thousands of miles.

In other words you admit you know nothing of this and use a personal attack in the face of being wrong, real mature, no wonder your views are so lost do yourself a favor and crank that window of your mind open a bit, the dust and decay coming from your head is making me sneeze.

On a related note I do NOT live on manhattan island, once again you have spouted wrong information that you could have gathered by a sinple click of my profile before shooting your mouth off again, a perfect example.

lmao ok I see you are getting shot down again with your remarks about the IRA.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~rjsalvad/scmfaq/muertos.html

Please, take your ignorance elsewhere...


# It is a holiday with a complex history, and therefore its observance varies quite a bit by region and by degree of urbanization. (Condor was in the BIGGEST CITY IN THE WORLD OF COURSE IT WAS WATERED DOWN FOR HIS CONSUMPTION AS A AMERICAN.)



# It is not a morbid occasion, but rather a festive time.

Protestant America celebrates it as a day of evil and spookiness...

It is a day of ancestor worship for catholic nations.

Of course it was, because you were sitting in your 850 dollar appt down in Manhatten lmao and have eyes that can see thousands of miles.

In other words you admit you know nothing of this and use a personal attack in the face of being wrong, real mature, no wonder your views are so lost do yourself a favor and crank that window of your mind open a bit, the dust and decay coming from your head is making me sneeze.

On a related note I do NOT live on manhattan island, once again you have spouted wrong information that you could have gathered by a sinple click of my profile before shooting your mouth off again, a perfect example.

lmao ok I see you are getting shot down again with your remarks about the IRA.

Eaglekeeper, please open your mind, the whole world is not full of spoonfed W.A.S.P. hiding your head in the sand in a vain hope that you will stay superior to anyone elses culture.

And what of the IRA? I know you all hate to see your idiotic war on terror compared to the confilict. Sucks for you imperialism will never work.

We have freakin 7 people staying on our floor who just woke up who came out here from CA in a band and they laughed their asses off reading this blatent ignorance of catholisism some being straight up mexican.

Passing a message along: Condor and Eaglekeeper are talking : "self-righteous beloved patriot garbage" :laugh:

 

[piasabird]

Halloween is a very stupid holiday as far as I am concerned.

 

[judasmachine]

Originally posted by: piasabird
Halloween is a very stupid holiday as far as I am concerned.

It's a reason to party, like all the rest. Our very culture has sucked any meaning out of any of the holidays we recognize. Money has replaced every sacred reason to holiday.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~rjsalvad/scmfaq/muertos.html

Please, take your ignorance elsewhere...


# It is a holiday with a complex history, and therefore its observance varies quite a bit by region and by degree of urbanization. (Condor was in the BIGGEST CITY IN THE WORLD OF COURSE IT WAS WATERED DOWN FOR HIS CONSUMPTION AS A AMERICAN.)



# It is not a morbid occasion, but rather a festive time.

Protestant America celebrates it as a day of evil and spookiness...

It is a day of ancestor worship for catholic nations.

Of course it was, because you were sitting in your 850 dollar appt down in Manhatten lmao and have eyes that can see thousands of miles.

In other words you admit you know nothing of this and use a personal attack in the face of being wrong, real mature, no wonder your views are so lost do yourself a favor and crank that window of your mind open a bit, the dust and decay coming from your head is making me sneeze.

On a related note I do NOT live on manhattan island, once again you have spouted wrong information that you could have gathered by a sinple click of my profile before shooting your mouth off again, a perfect example.

lmao ok I see you are getting shot down again with your remarks about the IRA.

Eaglekeeper, please open your mind, the whole world is not full of spoonfed W.A.S.P. hiding your head in the sand in a vain hope that you will stay superior to anyone elses culture.

And what of the IRA? I know you all hate to see your idiotic war on terror compared to the confilict. Sucks for you imperialism will never work.

We have freakin 7 people staying on our floor who just woke up who came out here from CA in a band and they laughed their asses off reading this blatent ignorance of catholisism some being straight up mexican.

Passing a message along: Condor and Eaglekeeper are talking : "self-righteous beloved patriot garbage" :laugh:

Oh the 7 people on my floor were interested enough to come and read what I am typing argument.

Heard it a million times.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Oh the 7 people on my floor were interested enough to come and read what I am typing argument.

Heard it a million times.

Your willfull ignorance is amusing to those with a clue, well that and pretty sad at times.

Do yourself a favor and stick to subjects that the foxnews covers you make americans look pretty foolish.

 

[Vic]

Halloween is the ancient Celtic festival of Samhain (pronounced "sow-ween"), which predates Catholic All Hallow's Eve/All Saint's Day by at least a thousand years, and Protestant Reformation Day by probably a thousand more. Samhain was the Celtic New Year, their feast of the dead, and the night of New Year's Eve was when the boundaries between life and death blurred, and the dead walked the earth. The living would placate the dead by leaving gifts on their doorstep. Today, children dress as the spirits of the dead to go door-to-door extracting those gifts from the fearful living. And the celtic nation of Ireland is now Catholic (where do you think the Catholics got All Saint's Day from?).

The Dia de los Muertos is a different, ancient mezoamerican celebration that just happens to coincide with All Saint's Day because Catholic priests of the Conquistadors moved it from August to the first for November.

Protestant celebrations are either similar to Catholic All Saints Day, or they celebrate the Reformation (Martin Luther posted his thesis on October 31, 1517). In nations where Catholics and Protestants live together, like the US, Halloween is celebrated in a secular fashion similar to the original Samhain, but without the dead worship of the Celtic religion (in case you didn't get "secular").

But of course, Steeplerot once again has no clue what he's talking about. Chavez, like any good communist leader, is trying to destroy the religion of his people. Steeplerot, like any good communist, twists his brain in doublethinks trying to curse the relgious and the secular at the same time.

 

[Steeplerot]

Venuzuala is not a protestant country nor is chavez a freakin commie...anymore then canada is communist... you people are a laugh riot.

You wouldnt know a latino holiday from a hole in the ground.

http://www.public.iastate.edu/~rjsalvad/scmfaq/muertos.html

boo hoo, the former elite white ruling class is being told they will not hold sway over the customs of a indigneous people with their northern alien traditions or greedy monoplolys. whaa.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Venuzuala is not a protestant country nor is chavez a freakin commie... you people are a laugh riot.

You wouldnt know a latino holiday from a hole in the ground.

http://www.public.iastate.edu/~rjsalvad/scmfaq/muertos.html

Can't fsckin' read, can ya?

 

[Steeplerot]

Can't use your head can you? I already spelled it out and you are owned by me and the 3 mexican friends laughing at your ignorance, keep it up.

I provided you with a link.

the former elite beloved patriot ruling classes traditions of halloween are not native and chavez is trying to break down the damage down by white imperialism over the years.

Not everyone wants american cullture, (or the lack therof) it has run its course and nothing less then consumerism and worship of the dollar.

I wouldnt mind seeing it go the way of the dodo here also.

This is just part of the greater blowback of our forigen policy making america out to be the enemy of the world, people retract in disgust at american things becasue of the negative light we have been put in.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Can't use your head can you? I already spelled it out and you are owned by me and the 3 mexican friends laughing at your ignorance, keep it up.

I provided you with a link.

the former elite beloved patriot ruling classes traditions of halloween are not native and chavez is trying to break down the damage down by white imperialism over the years.

Not everyone wants american cullture, it has run its course and nothing less then consumerism and worship of the dollar.

I wouldnt mind seeing it go the way of the dodo here also.

Vic

At least you managed to widdle Steeplerots imaginary friends down to 3 from 7. :beer:

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Can't use your head can you? I already spelled it out and you are owned by me and the 3 mexican friends laughing at your ignorance, keep it up.

I provided you with a link.

the former elite beloved patriot ruling classes traditions of halloween are not native and chavez is trying to break down the damage down by white imperialism over the years.

Not everyone wants american cullture, it has run its course and nothing less then consumerism and worship of the dollar.

I wouldnt mind seeing it go the way of the dodo here also.

Vic

At least you managed to widdle Steeplerots imaginary friends down to 3 from 7. :beer:

You are a idiot I said "some" of them were mexican, do you ever think before you post?

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Can't use your head can you? I already spelled it out and you are owned by me and the 3 mexican friends laughing at your ignorance, keep it up.

I provided you with a link.

the former elite beloved patriot ruling classes traditions of halloween are not native and chavez is trying to break down the damage down by white imperialism over the years.

Not everyone wants american cullture, it has run its course and nothing less then consumerism and worship of the dollar.

I wouldnt mind seeing it go the way of the dodo here also.

Vic

At least you managed to widdle Steeplerots imaginary friends down to 3 from 7. :beer:

You are a idiot I said "some" of them were mexican, do you ever think before you post?

Some of your imaginary friends are Mexican? Looks whatever floats your boat I guess.