Cheap 24" 1920x1200 monitor for the masses? ITS BACK!

[dreddfunk]

I went out and got one yesterday and I've been impressed as well.

There is a very small, very short streak of either stuck pixels or some other kind of artifact on the panel I picked up at Office Max. I would never notice it during normal use, it's just easy to spot because I know it's there. I now have to decide whether or not to take it back and exchange it, or be happy with what I've got.

The viewing angles are pretty good, as is the color & vibrancy. I can't speak for how good of a gaming monitor it is, however. I personally have experienced a lot of 'tearing' during game play, but that could be because I've only got an x850xt. It won't run most of the games I play anywhere near 60fps.

In any event, I'm still keeping mine (or exchanging it for another one).

Another great deal that I wouldn't have found except for all the hard work of AT members!

 

[gorobei]

where are you guys located? I looked at B&M and online, and none of the officeMax's in 300 miles of my neck of CA seem to have any.

The only good part is that this seems to be a new item, hopefully that means more will be coming and this isn't a clearance sale.

 

[jmunjr]

Originally posted by: Deleted member 4644

Originally posted by: kmmatney
I just went to officeMax and bought one. Definately not a TN display, from checking out the vertical viewing angle. I compared it directly to 2 other TN displays next to it. So its either MVA or PVA. The default colors are way too blue, but can be fixed easily by software or in the display.

No dead pixels, and overall a great picture quality. I would be completely satisifed except for one problem - an annoying buzz from the back of the monitor. Sounds like an electrical buzz from a transformer. It noticable and annoying, and I'll probably have to take this one back and exchange it for another, and hope the noise is gone. I probably wouldn't notice the noise so much if hooked up to my computer, but right now its hooked up to a laptop (with DVI) and very noticable.

Anyone else get the buzzing sound?

Yes I have the buzz too. I had to stick my head close earlier today but now I can hear it from a few feet away. Lame...but what do you expect from a $300 24" LCD ?

 

[jmunjr]

So what do we do with this 7z file? Umm, ok it is an uncommon compression format. I decompressed it. Now what do we do with this .icc file and how?


Edit - ok install the "color applet" and install the color profile and associate it with themonitor. Can't seem to tell much of a difference and in fact nothing really happened. Oh well. Still not sure if the settings on your Soyo LCD will be the same as mine.

Thanks

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
For those who are using the settings I provided...

OK, here's a profile using the 6500K pre-set:

http://www.mediafire.com/?9zudx9x2rt5


So in short:

Use THIS ONE if you stick with the 6500K factory preset.

OR

Use THIS ONE if you use my RGB settings (which may or may not be 38/39/35).

Both should produce good results.

Viper GTS

 

[kmmatney]

I brought my LCD back for another one, and that buzzes a little bit too. I really can't hear it over the noise of my computer box, and I only really noticed it when I had my laptop. Its permanent home is near my main rig, so the buzz is really not an issue. I wish it didn't buzz, but this LCD kicks ass over my old 22" Acer I'm not going to worry about it.

 

[xtknight]

Viper GTS: do you mind posting the profile in the profiles thread? If not, thanks.

 

[ciamoose]

I just set my Soyo 24" up and I plugged my laptop into it with the included VGA cable. The display has a cycling horizontal line which moves, sort of like old CRT monitors when you set them to too high of a resolution. Do you think it's just my laptop's VGA out that is a problem, or is my monitor bad? It is not terrible, but I won't have a computer with a DVI connection to test it out on for a few days.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Its back til the 8th! Hurry! http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2091511&enterthread=y

Direct link to OM

 

[tameone]

I purchased this online Wednesday, and it arrived Thursday morning. My initial impression was this is a great monitor. Good colors, sharpness, and contrast. I do have one stuck green pixel near the edge, but hopefully I will be able to fix it.

Now, I am having an annoying problem and I'm wondering if I am alone.

I stuck in a DVD to check out the picture, and I noticed flashing green pixels. Random pixels flash bright green all over the screen, like sparkles. It seems to happen mostly on flesh tones (all skin colors). If I pause the video, I can typically catch a couple green pixels. Some of them will be constantly green, others will flicker back and forth while the video is paused. When a video is running, no pixels will remain green for longer than a split second.. so they flash around.. very annoying when there are multiple pixels in one area. It doesn't happen all the time in every scene, so its difficult to determine the actual cause. I do not think this is limited to specific pixels (i.e. 20% of the pixels are damaged/afflicted, and only those flash), but I will never be able to know for sure.

I've only seen this happen in video so far (LOST DVD, and an HD windows media file from microsoft). I do not see it on my desktop, and I haven't noticed it while gaming.

I have the monitor hooked up to an XFX 7800GT via DVI.

Anyone else have this problem, or ever heard of such a thing? I'm thinking about a return.

 

[imported_Filbert]

I just purchased this SOYO this morning at my local OfficeMax. It looks great. however there are two lines running vertically down the monitor. One, on the far left appears green against a white background and black against a blue background. The other, in the middle of the screen, appears blue on a white background and disappears with any other color. I only tested the monitor with a black, white, blue, and red background.

This is the first LCD I've ever owned and I was wondering if these lines were fixable or if I should just take it back? When I bought it they said that they had five in stock.

I'm not sure how they would react to it. Would this problem constitute a defective monitor?

I ran the JScreenFix applet for two periods of at least five minutes and there as been no change.

 

[FireChicken]

Originally posted by: Filbert
I just purchased this SOYO this morning at my local OfficeMax. It looks great. however there are two lines running vertically down the monitor. One, on the far left appears green against a white background and black against a blue background. The other, in the middle of the screen, appears blue on a white background and disappears with any other color. I only tested the monitor with a black, white, blue, and red background.

This is the first LCD I've ever owned and I was wondering if these lines were fixable or if I should just take it back? When I bought it they said that they had five in stock.

I'm not sure how they would react to it. Would this problem constitute a defective monitor?

I ran the JScreenFix applet for two periods of at least five minutes and there as been no change.

Definitely take it back.

 

[imported_Filbert]

Thanks, I did, they exchanged it no problem. I ran the same solid color tests and haven't found a single dead or stuck pixel.

A slightly related question for anyone with the monitor though. Is it just me or is the stand so weak that the monitor leans towards you? I'm thinking of reinforcing it or propping it up a little in the front.

(edit)

Originally posted by: tameone
Now, I am having an annoying problem and I'm wondering if I am alone.

I stuck in a DVD to check out the picture, and I noticed flashing green pixels. Random pixels flash bright green all over the screen, like sparkles. It seems to happen mostly on flesh tones (all skin colors). If I pause the video, I can typically catch a couple green pixels. Some of them will be constantly green, others will flicker back and forth while the video is paused. When a video is running, no pixels will remain green for longer than a split second.. so they flash around.. very annoying when there are multiple pixels in one area. It doesn't happen all the time in every scene, so its difficult to determine the actual cause. I do not think this is limited to specific pixels (i.e. 20% of the pixels are damaged/afflicted, and only those flash), but I will never be able to know for sure.

I've only seen this happen in video so far (LOST DVD, and an HD windows media file from microsoft). I do not see it on my desktop, and I haven't noticed it while gaming.

I have the monitor hooked up to an XFX 7800GT via DVI.

Anyone else have this problem, or ever heard of such a thing? I'm thinking about a return.

After my vertical line problem was solved I noticed this as well. I saw it on DVD play as well as when displaying one .jpeg image. I'm not sure what it is, or if it's even a problem. I have the monitor hooked up to a XFX 6600GT right now.

 

[gorobei]

picked one up on friday. Intrestingly most stores don't have them on display out front, at least in my area. Most of the employees didn't even know they had them in stock in the backroom.

initial impressions:
-no dead pixels or wonky rows of pixels
-plane jane case and interface. nothing special or overly complicated in the OSD panel controls. I wouldn't call it heavy.
-backlighting seems a little uneven in the center; blacks tend to run a little grey with some minor leak on one side; limited brightness range(seems to deal with spatial non-uniformity by pushing towards the too bright end.)
-default colors are crappy, went with RGB for now. definitely 8bit(yay!)
-viewing angle is better than TN but nothing outstanding. just less color shift.

faults:
-cables and power cord that come with it are a little short for my under-the-desk/dual-monitor setup. Anyone with the PC on the desktop should be fine.
-built in speakers have a lot of hiss(probably the hum some people have mentioned. input jack is too close to the dvi port so there may be some signal/grounding leak creating the noise.) just turn the volume to 0 to get rid of it.
-input jacks are a little awkward to reach around to from the front.
-might eventually cover up the two kinda bright, blue led "power on" indicators.

Basically got this to do 3d modeling/animation. OGL hardware rendering looks like crap on dithered 6bit TN panels. (still keeping my multisync crt tho) It should hold me over until the 24"samsung LED LCD comes out and drops to a reasonable price in 2 or 3 years.

 

[tameone]

After my vertical line problem was solved I noticed this as well. I saw it on DVD play as well as when displaying one .jpeg image. I'm not sure what it is, or if it's even a problem. I have the monitor hooked up to a XFX 6600GT right now.

I posted this on a couple other forums, and we are not alone. I've found that turning the monitor off then on again immediately will make the green dots go away, at least temporarily. I think it might only happen when the monitor had been on awhile and gets hot. Someone also mentioned that they had the problem, but after letting it run at a lower resolution, then turning it off.. the problem hasn't shown up again.

I thought from the beginning that the DVI cable it came with might be insufficient. I have a monster DVI cable from monoprice that I will have to test out. Someone else said a new cable fixed the problem for them.

Another person said it was monitor/drivers/adapter/performance settings issue. "Try lowering your performance settings under display settings and try updating to the latest drivers for your graphic adapter if you haven't so."

I don't think I buy that.. lowering performance? Yea right. And I have the newest drivers for my 7800GT.

I'm going to experiment some more before I hassle with the return process (I bought it through officemax.com)

 

[imported_Filbert]

Well for some reason that went away on mine. When I saw those it was when my monitor was pretty recently turned on for the first time. After a little time running, and after a few resolution changes thanks to games, the problem went away and I haven't seen it since. I'm not sure if it will resurface or not though.

Somehow I got a scuff or scratch on my screen's coating. One of the cables must have bumped the surface when I was removing my second CRT or something. Either way it must be pretty fragile.

 

[PowerRanger]

Filbert, it sounds like you got the same screen I got lol. When I opened mine, the monitor was not wrapped in the plastic bag and also had what appears to be scratches (although later found out it could be wiped away) and smudges. Also, I've experienced the "flashing dots" thing. Here's my thread with a couple of others who have the same issue. I've since plugged it into a different socket, and also used the other DVI connector on the vid card. The issue has not re-appeared, yet.

 

[gorobei]

It's back on sale again at Officemax starting sun 9/23.

 

[konakona]

Originally posted by: PowerRanger
Filbert, it sounds like you got the same screen I got lol. When I opened mine, the monitor was not wrapped in the plastic bag and also had what appears to be scratches (although later found out it could be wiped away) and smudges. Also, I've experienced the "flashing dots" thing. Here's my thread with a couple of others who have the same issue. I've since plugged it into a different socket, and also used the other DVI connector on the vid card. The issue has not re-appeared, yet.

I think it is a recurring problem, had it happen to me multiple times.
With each and every occurrence though, I was able to get it fixed with power cycling.
Wonder if I should go through the hassle of getting it exchanged, I have 2 days left on the receipt I am fine with it as long as the problem doesnt happen too often and is fixable.

 

[Laminator]

Originally posted by: gorobei
It's back on sale again at Officemax starting sun 9/23.

Thanks; I might bite for this one.

http://officemax.shoplocal.com...vid%3dOfficeMax-070923

Does this monitor do 1:1 pixel mapping?

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: Laminator

Originally posted by: gorobei
It's back on sale again at Officemax starting sun 9/23.

Thanks; I might bite for this one.

http://officemax.shoplocal.com...vid%3dOfficeMax-070923

Does this monitor do 1:1 pixel mapping?

I think someone would have mentioned it by now if it did. Otherwise I've heard that 1:1 is built into ATi and nVidia video card control options.

 

[Toadster]

I LOVE THIS MONITOR!!

 

[Deleted member 4644]

I too love it. It really works well and it is amazing for the price. I am sure you can find a $1000 that looks better, but I have seen zero color problems, zero artifacts, and zero ghosting.

 

[imported_Filbert]

I took a quick video of the "flickering pixels", "sparklies", or whatever people are calling them. It seems that some are worse than others and of different colors but these are what I'm getting.

http://s2.photobucket.com/albu...en_flicker_9-12-07.flv

The problems seems to only occur on pixels of the same color at any given time. I'm not sure if this color is the same each time it happens but that is a distinct possibility.

 

[Beh]

I've been wondering about this. It's never occured to me personally but if I recall correctly, a previous poster with the same problem said his monitor showed up as an M24EI4 or something like that in his video card drivers or something.

I found it odd because mine shows up as M24EI5. Maybe he mis-typed but would you mine checking what yours shows? Maybe there's different revisions floating around?

 

[imported_Filbert]

Mine is noted as M24E15 in my Nvidia Control Panel.

I haven't tried eliminating different environmental factors since it only occurs a few times a week anyway and I'd have to eliminate those factors for some time.