Cheap duplex printer that wont force you to buy new color cartridges to print?

JEDI

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my 10yr old duplex hp deskjet is on it's last legs.

new printers nowadays seem to force you to buy new color cartridges else it wont print, even if you're printing black and white txt.

recommendations on a Cheap duplex printer that wont force you to buy new color cartridges to print?


edit:
apparently, inkjets nowadays will shutdown when a color cartridge is empty

so i'll consider a cheap duplex laser as well.
THX
 
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ecom

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Do you need to color? Color will significantly increase your cost if you are looking at laser printers. I picked up a B&W AIO laser with built in duplexer for around $130 a while back. It's refurbed and the toner is around $50 for 3rd party, but original toner is likely to last me many many years with a 3000 page yield.

Check out the refurbed printers at Staples.com. Buy a $25 or $30 coupon from eBay. Delivery is free.
 

owensdj

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I have a Brother HL-2270DW laser that's amazing for the price. It does duplex, and you can use either USB, wireless, or ethernet to print to it.
 

corkyg

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OP looks to replace a Deskjet - not necessarily a laser.
 

Lemon law

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To JEDI,

Assuming corkyg is correct and you opt to replace a dying inkjet with another inkjet, then you have to somewhat expect the 2011 inkjet marker is now worse than the 2001 market you had ten years ago. And by in large, the reason can be summed up in one word CHIPPED inkjet Printers that will completely shut down as soon as any cartridge is empty.

But if your inkjet printer usage is similar to mine there are two primary lines of defense to prevent your color inkjet cartridges from going empty prematurely when you mainly print only using text black.

1, The first is obvious, do your research and select inkjet printers that use large individual cartridges. With at least 13 ml of ink in the smallest color cartridges, and at least 25 ml of ink in your text black. I tend to be a Canon printer fan, but only some Canons, Epsons, brother, and HP inkjet printers will meet that criteria. Avoid like the plague any inkjet with tricolor cartridges or certain HP printers that have photo accent colors as small as 3-5 ml of ink in them.

2. And especially if you are like me and boot up the computer and then later shut down the computer and seldom use the printer, then you are a prime candidate for the Lemon Law method of massive inkjet savings. The secret is cut AC power from the inkjet printer so it does not start up every time you boot up your computer, because every time the inkjet starts up it runs a small but ink wasting cleaning cycle from each and every cartridge. On the plus side it helps keep the print head clean, but as long as you do the cleaning cycle only once every 30 days or so, and print something every 45 days or so, I have found my Canon ip4000 does not clog. And on my Canon inkjet there is a on off switch on the printer itself, but some inkjets lack such a on off switch. But in that latter case, its still no problem, just pull the printer plug from the wall switch, or in my case from my surge strip far easier to get at.

For what its worth I use the same strategy on my MFC monochrome laser too, simply because I seldom print with it and don't want to always listen to a power wasting fan.
And lasers never have toner clogging problems.
 
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JEDI

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"CHIPPED inkjet Printers that will completely shut down as soon as any cartridge is empty. "

how the fuck is that legal?! why doesnt consumer agencies do something about this racket?

so Lemon Law, what duplex inkjets do you recommend?
 

JEDI

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can you have 2 printers? duplex laser and cheap color inkjet?

really laser is so much nicer . . .

hm.. never thought of that.
from lemon law's post, i guess it'll be cheaper in the long run to get both since i'd be wasting alot of $ buying color catridges even tho i print black and white. (another scam i'm surprised the consumer agencies havnt cracked down on.)

ok, what cheap duplex laser do u recommend?
 

Lemon law

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Sadly, Jedi, while I totally agree that inkjet makers are running a total scam, as of yet, no one and I MEAN NO ONE government has addressed the scam. And IMHO, until world wde consumers get together and demand better, its a hot bed of consumer apathy which means nothing will get any better any time soon.

Inkjets are a grand rackets as they vend ink that takes less than $50.00 gallon to make for prices varying for a low of $2500 a gallon to over $25,000 a gallon.

Why wish you are a Oscar Meier Wiener when you can be a ink jet printer maker with some market share.
 
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wirednuts

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i still think inkjet technology could have been a strong competitor to laser, but the way they raped everyone on ink just killed the superior tech BLURAY
 

gsaldivar

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Designing and marketing all those fancy new inkjet printers costs big $$$$. TV commercials, full-color glossy magazine ads, sponsorships, etc. The little $50 margin that the manufacturer got when you bought your printer seven years ago doesn't come close to covering all those costs. The real money is in the consumables...
 

SKORPI0

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The real money is in the consumables...

Exactly, that's why inkjet/laser compatible refill cartridges are so popular. Like mentioned earlier, look for a B&W laser and do the toner refill yourself. I've done this several times with no discernible difference between original and OEM. Saved me a lot of $$$, just make sure to take your time and follow the refilling instructions.
 

Modelworks

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Get one of the newer brother inkjets. They have removed all the chip nonsense and just use plain plastic containers with ink inside. I got one that uses the lc61 carts and they have ink inside , no sponges like some inkets, and no chips. The printer cost more up front but are worth it. Refill is so simple a child could do it. Put a hole in the cartridge, fill with ink, plug hole and put back in printer.
http://www.brother-usa.com/MFC/modeldetail.aspx?PRODUCTID=MFCJ6510dw&tab=spec
 
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