Cheap GAS!

[dgouldin]

Want to really save money on gas?

Veggie Van

 

[Waterhouse]

Originally posted by: QuicknDirty
Also, my "POS" gas guzzler passes the same emmisions tests that your "hybrid" does.

Wrong. That gas guzzler, being a "truck", is exempt from the emission standards for passenger cars - one of the worst loopholes in the history of environmental law. (But then you probably think of that as an advantage.) Beyond that, if you're using 4X the gas per mile, then you're putting out at least 4X the pollution.

And you're endangering my life every time you pull that beast out of the driveway.

And you're paying for it? That's BS, too. You're only paying the cost of pulling the stuff out of the ground (and maybe some Saudi's palace). You're not coming close to paying the real cost to all of us in damage to the atmosphere and in health care costs for breathing your exhaust.

Not usually a flamer, but you put me over the edge...

 

[Cheetah8799]

Wow, this gas price thing turned into quite the thread...

My solution to rising gas prices: ride my bike to work as much as possible. Only 4.5 miles, so not a whole lot of exercise, but at least it wakes me up in the morning.

Here's a Bicycle Commuter's Guide for those of you who have never commuted to work via bicycle before.

 

[bman46]

Originally posted by: RideFree
Yes, Costco is usually one of the best in any area. If you're traveling and pass by a Costco without topping the tank-off, you'll soon regret it.

Here is some proof that Gasoline Prices are ARTIFICIALLY INFLATED!

At Costco Gas Stations they are handing out a flyer that says the following:

Costco Wholesale's goal is to provide members with the lowest prices on all the quality merchandise we sell. The state of New Jersey has a below-cost selling law for gasoline, which prohibits Costco from selling fuel for a price lower than the state's definition of our cost, including overhead expenses. Unlike similar laws in other states, New Jersey does not allow us an exception to meet the lower price of a competitor.

Costco has been advised by the County of Passaic that our prices have been too low to comply with state law. Accordingly, Costco has raised gasoline prices to comply with New Jerseys below-cost selling law. We are investigating whether or not our competitors have been asked by the government to raise their prices. We appreciate your understanding. If you have questions we suggest that you contact the Office Of Weights And Measures, County Of Passaic at (973) 305 5750

Costco intends to seek a system of regulation in New Jersey that is better for consumers allowing us and others to sell gasoline at lower prices.

 

[IgorFL]

Wow...

Go to www.gaspricewatch.com, put in the zip code 30605, and check the third entry from the top.

That's where I'm getting gas tonight!

 

[Spartanfool]

Let's get this thread back on topic.......

If you have a Speedway/SuperAmerica station near you (see Link for locations), start buying their $25 gas cards. Now thru June 30th, you can get a $25 gas card for $2 off. At $2.00 per gallon the net cost will be $1.84 per gallon. Plus you get to avoid those lines at Costco, etc. (By the way Speedway is almost always the lowest price in town anyways, so the 16 centsis just extra gravy!) I pick up a couple for each car and just toss them in the cupholder.

The Fool

 

[TekDemon]

Originally posted by: QuicknDirty

Originally posted by: MrCoyote
I'll be glad when alternatives to gas/oil is mainstream, and we never have to buy from crooks again! The oil industry and all involved are crooks! Actually in one way, I'd like to see gas prices go up to $4-5 a gallon. Maybe then people with gas guzzling trucks/suvs/HOT RODS... will finally trade in those POS autos for more efficient cars that make 35miles a gallon. Punks are still on the road, revving up their engines, wasting gas. I still see it, where someone pulls up at a stop light with a Corvette, Firebird, or other gas guzzler, and then they waste gas by taking off fast.

Bring on....Propane, Natural Gas, fuel-cell, or all-electric small hybrid cars!

When they come up with a way to strap 4 of your tree hugging rides to the undercarriage of my Supercharged '02 Ford Harley Davidson F150 so that I can ride on top of them I'll consider buying them. Otherwise, I'll stick with my 10 mpg "gas guzzling truck/hot rod". I pay for the gas, so lay off. It's not like I'm getting it for free and you're footing the bill. If it wasn't for the hybrid cars with a top speed of 50 mph downhill with a strong tailwind getting in my way, I'd be able to save more gas driving at a more efficient speed.

It's worth it to me to pay $40 a tank twice a week to actually "enjoy" driving, not shoehorn myself into a clown car.

Actually due to supply and demand, you're actually driving gas prices up for everybody since you use so much more gas. If everybody drove 10MPG vehicles the prices would skyrocket even further since the demand would skyrocket and thus move up along the price curve. Basic economics here.
Imagine gasoline buying as one huge ebay dutch auction with 1000 gallons available and the starting price was $1/gallon. If 100 people who only needed 10 gallons each fillup bid, the auction could end at $1. But once those people need 30 gallons each fill up, those prices are going to go up and up until some people decide it's just not worth it to drive and lose on the auction.
That's why OPEC will cut their production...because that way their prices stay up high since only those who can afford to drive will drive at that point since everybody wants the gas.

At any rate, in regards to MrCoyote's post, while I do share the sentiment that in the long run gas at $4.50 a gallon would be better for the environment, my own wallet is hurting from driving my car and it's not even a gas guzzler. I'm somewhat wishing I had waited and bought that new Prius instead (only a couple months off but I was impatient...dammit). But oh well.
Nonetheless, I would still be able to peel off even if gas were $4.50 a gallon if I had this car:
mmm 400 HP/40 MPG....

 

[DJMiX]

Here is some proof that Gasoline Prices are ARTIFICIALLY INFLATED!

At Costco Gas Stations they are handing out a flyer that says the following:

Costco Wholesale's goal is to provide members with the lowest prices on all the quality merchandise we sell. The state of New Jersey has a below-cost selling law for gasoline, which prohibits Costco from selling fuel for a price lower than the state's definition of our cost, including overhead expenses. Unlike similar laws in other states, New Jersey does not allow us an exception to meet the lower price of a competitor.

Costco has been advised by the County of Passaic that our prices have been too low to comply with state law. Accordingly, Costco has raised gasoline prices to comply with New Jerseys below-cost selling law. We are investigating whether or not our competitors have been asked by the government to raise their prices. We appreciate your understanding. If you have questions we suggest that you contact the Office Of Weights And Measures, County Of Passaic at (973) 305 5750

Costco intends to seek a system of regulation in New Jersey that is better for consumers allowing us and others to sell gasoline at lower prices.




It's weird that they pass out this flyer right after STATE of NJ, MADE them service the public, not just their members ...

 

[Waterhouse]

Originally posted by: Cheetah8799
Wow, this gas price thing turned into quite the thread...

My solution to rising gas prices: ride my bike to work as much as possible. Only 4.5 miles, so not a whole lot of exercise, but at least it wakes me up in the morning.

Here's a Bicycle Commuter's Guide for those of you who have never commuted to work via bicycle before.

Hear, hear! I rode my bike in today, ~4 mi.

Almost got plastered by a POS gas guzzling F150 trying to go faster than me. :disgust: But hey, I'd rather go that way than by a heart attack.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Macro2
I blame the stupid, gas guzzling, SUV lovin' public.

Big ditto on that. It's such a joke. Seems like 90% of the time there's only 1 or 2 ppl in a huge SUV. And those with Hummers? Yeah, they need them. Probably 99.9% of those never go off pavement. :roll:

 

[Waterhouse]

mmm 400 HP/40 MPG....

Cool car. I'll take two. But no indication of how much $.

Anyway, I doubt if it gets 400HP and 40 MPG at the same time!

 

[Waterhouse]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: Macro2
I blame the stupid, gas guzzling, SUV lovin' public.

Big ditto on that. It's such a joke. Seems like 90% of the time there's only 1 or 2 ppl in a huge SUV. And those with Hummers? Yeah, they need them. Probably 99.9% of those never go off pavement. :roll:

I think it's pretty clear those guys are compensating for simething.

 

[OneWatt]

Thanks For The Gasbuddy Link

 

[tcsenter]

I think it's pretty clear those guys are compensating for simething.

Absolutely, like people who just gotta have an AthlonXP 1700+ grossly overbussed to 3400+, 1GB of OCZ Particle Accelerator II EK-STREEM PC5000 DDR-RAM, dual 10,000 RPM Hard Drives in RAID configuration to run Spider Solitaire, Word 2002, and UT2004.

Or people who just gotta have high-end A/V equipment costing multi-thousands of dollars but couldn't tell the difference between 'audiophile' grade equipment and Radio Shack Specials in a double-blind audio fidelity test if their life depended on it (which describes probably 98% of those supporting the audiophile A/V market).

Or people who just gotta have a sports car that is capable of 5 second 0-60 times, 175MPH top speed, and .9g skid pad performance, but will never exceed the driving demands that a Dodge Neon couldn't aptly deliver.

Or people who read excessively through books, magazines, or papers and care more about their own desire for personal entertainment than saving trees, and artists who care more about their artsy fartsy desires to needlessly decorate paper than saving trees.

Or people who care more about their personal entertainment than saving the environment from the production of motion pictures, which are notorious for wasting massive amounts of fossil fuels and timber products for no reason other than giving people something to pass the time for an hour or two.

Or <insert any person who has an affinity for some pursuit, hobby, or interest that someone somewhere else doesn't like or believes is 'excessive' here>

I know that you are in a position that allows you to be critical, because you live in a dung hut and power your personal computer using some sort of human power, being the kind of person who lives by example instead of a BIG FAT HYPOCRITE.

 

[pipeliner1]

Ill try to explain this one time so people can understand how as is so expensive.

Lets say 100 barrells of oil are pulled from the ground in Kuwiat. Kuwiat puts it on the market for a starting price of 30 dollars a barrell. After its on the market the oil companys bid for this oil. When theres alot in there reserves the price stays lw. When there is not alot the price jumps up. So lets say Bp got the bid for 42 dollars a barrell. Now you have to put it on a ship at .00002 a barrell. Barrell of oil hit the gulf they have to get it to the refiners. Its roughly 8 cents a barrell in interstate pipelines . Now you have to hold it in a storage tank at 5 cents a barrell. Its goes through a BS&amp;W test. to determine what the refiners will pay for this oil from the company that bought it. Now all the sudden your 42 dollar barrell turns into 50 dollars. out of that they get 15 gallons of gas out of that 42 gallon barrell. They have to transport the gas to the station where the bidding starts all over again for that gas.

Who should you blame:
1: OPEC they regulate how much oil is being pulled every day
2: People who think its cool to drive the gas guzzlers demand goes up and so does price
3: Our goverment. Believe it or not they actually pay people to keep the oil pumps shut off. Therefore keeping oil supplies low. This includes are state goverments which in at least 75 percent of the states have a 20 cent or greater tax on every gallon of gas

What should you do:
!: Get off you lazy ass ride you bike or car pool. It wont kill you
2: Pass up the big name stations that charge more. Example, there is 3 refinerys in the Chicago land area your gas is coming from one of the 3. They all have to adhere to the same regulations in refining it so the gas is the same. This also includes additives. The only legal additive is ethanol.
3:Buy a vehicle that gets more then 10 miles to the gallon

End of rant go back to finding cheap gas

 

[tcsenter]

Aw C'mon! Can't we have everything our little hearts desire and take no personal responsibility for the consequences and assign blame to others and feel righteous about it all? Its soooo much better when we get to do that.

 

[dgouldin]

hmm ... perhaps this thread title should be changed to "Cheap GAS, cheap talk"

 

[QuicknDirty]

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[Shadizzy]

sighhhh i remember when i was a kid growing up in the early 90's and i used to fill up my parents car at 89 CENTS A GALLON!!!!!! -_-

i feel old now

i remember seeing gas for 1.09 and thinking man thats expensive

 

[Spartanfool]

You think .89 per gallon makes you feel old? I remember as a wee lad seeing .25 per gallon!!!

Gawd I feel old.....

 

[XiZiT]

some gas stations in my area have closed up shop and put up signs that due to recent spikes in oil they have no choice but to close

 

[bman46]

Originally posted by: DJMiX
Here is some proof that Gasoline Prices are ARTIFICIALLY INFLATED!

At Costco Gas Stations they are handing out a flyer that says the following:

Costco Wholesale's goal is to provide members with the lowest prices on all the quality merchandise we sell. The state of New Jersey has a below-cost selling law for gasoline, which prohibits Costco from selling fuel for a price lower than the state's definition of our cost, including overhead expenses. Unlike similar laws in other states, New Jersey does not allow us an exception to meet the lower price of a competitor.

Costco has been advised by the County of Passaic that our prices have been too low to comply with state law. Accordingly, Costco has raised gasoline prices to comply with New Jerseys below-cost selling law. We are investigating whether or not our competitors have been asked by the government to raise their prices. We appreciate your understanding. If you have questions we suggest that you contact the Office Of Weights And Measures, County Of Passaic at (973) 305 5750

Costco intends to seek a system of regulation in New Jersey that is better for consumers allowing us and others to sell gasoline at lower prices.




It's weird that they pass out this flyer right after STATE of NJ, MADE them service the public, not just their members ...

They handed it out before they forced costco to serve everyone

 

[jasonja]

Originally posted by: QuicknDirty

Originally posted by: MrCoyote
I'll be glad when alternatives to gas/oil is mainstream, and we never have to buy from crooks again! The oil industry and all involved are crooks! Actually in one way, I'd like to see gas prices go up to $4-5 a gallon. Maybe then people with gas guzzling trucks/suvs/HOT RODS... will finally trade in those POS autos for more efficient cars that make 35miles a gallon. Punks are still on the road, revving up their engines, wasting gas. I still see it, where someone pulls up at a stop light with a Corvette, Firebird, or other gas guzzler, and then they waste gas by taking off fast.

Bring on....Propane, Natural Gas, fuel-cell, or all-electric small hybrid cars!

When they come up with a way to strap 4 of your tree hugging rides to the undercarriage of my Supercharged '02 Ford Harley Davidson F150 so that I can ride on top of them I'll consider buying them. Otherwise, I'll stick with my 10 mpg "gas guzzling truck/hot rod". I pay for the gas, so lay off. It's not like I'm getting it for free and you're footing the bill. If it wasn't for the hybrid cars with a top speed of 50 mph downhill with a strong tailwind getting in my way, I'd be able to save more gas driving at a more efficient speed.

It's worth it to me to pay $40 a tank twice a week to actually "enjoy" driving, not shoehorn myself into a clown car.

haha.. Amen! Not to mention their are some people that actually need large pickup trucks and SUVs for their rides due to work or family.

 

[lMlHuxley]

I never knew the big fuss with gas prices. People waste more on worthless junk that they don't even care about than they do by saving 10 cents a gallon on gas. I just never have and probably never will understand what all the fuss is about.

 

[Questi4110]

Originally posted by: lMlHuxley
I never knew the big fuss with gas prices. People waste more on worthless junk that they don't even care about than they do by saving 10 cents a gallon on gas. I just never have and probably never will understand what all the fuss is about.

yeah but gas is a necessity, anytime a necessity goes up in price, people care...

and those things that people waste their money on differ for every person...that person buying it may not think he is wasting money on it