Cheap high-end 980TI

postmortemIA

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I don't think it is great deal, it is just realistic price for previous gen graphics. It also has 250W TDP while 10x0 generation has much lighter footprint
 
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Macgyversite

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What planet are you from? Its 50% of the Price of a 1080 and almost 100% of the Performance. And if you are worried about the TDP because you cant afford the electric. Then you cant afford $850 for a video card. Also please calculate for me the power you would save with that lighter footprint and how long it could take to pay $450 back.

I will buy a few LED bulbs and make a lighter foot print with the money saved by this card.

Thats a sig quote right there.
 
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Freejack2

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If I was going to spend $400, I'd rather spend the extra $78, and with oc'ing the 980 about the same watts, to SLI a pair of 8gb RX480s. That runs about the speed of a 1080, and I would get 2GB more ram, than the 980. Or if I didn't need 8gb, I could spend $400 for a pair of 4gb RX 480s. The 980 just doesn't seem like a good deal to me. Also there is no guarantee the 980ti would overclock to 1560MHz.
 
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Yakk

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I have to agree with the above, $400 is a more realistic price for the 980ti.

That being said, as DX12 takes over in the coarse of the next year, it's already showing premature aging. So even at $400, going forward it's really not that good a deal IMHO, unless you are picking it up just to play older DX9c-DX11 games in your backlog.
 

MagickMan

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If I was going to spend $400, I'd rather spend the extra $78, and with oc'ing the 980 about the same watts, to SLI a pair of 8gb RX480s. That runs about the speed of a 1080, and I would get 2GB more ram, than the 980. Or if I didn't need 8gb, I could spend $400 for a pair of 4gb RX 480s. The 980 just doesn't seem like a good deal to me. Also there is no guarantee the 980ti would overclock to 1560MHz.

Multi-GPU configs are never as good as single cards, ever. You shouldn't rely on them for better performance, re. to reach a desired frame rate and/or resolution, but consider the setup as a nice "bonus" when it actually works as intended. Too many devs simply don't optimize, or even include support in the first place, for SLI or CF to be a solid mainstream solution.

1500 is pretty much guaranteed with a card like the Lightning, they're specifically built for it, given their superior components, design, and massive coolers. It isn't at all like running a typical enthusiast-grade card, not by a long shot.
 

DaveSimmons

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Not hot since it's only as good as a 1070 and has an older architecture with less support for 4K, VR, DX12.

Hot if you want quiet gaming. My LE makes less noise in 2D /non-gaming use than my 92mm CPU fan, and is still very quiet under heavy gaming loads.
 

dodger2020

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Not hot since it's only as good as a 1070 and has an older architecture with less support for 4K, VR, DX12.

Hot if you want quiet gaming. My LE makes less noise in 2D /non-gaming use than my 92mm CPU fan, and is still very quiet under heavy gaming loads.

All the benchmarks I've seen show the 1070 at slightly faster than both the 980ti and the Titan X (and the 1080 blows them all away). That they're almost the same price and the other features that are only available for the 10x0 cards makes this not hot for me. I'll wait for the demand to die down and for the 70 and 80 to drop back to their normal price points and pick one up then.
 

mrcrunch08

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I wish I could have found a deal like this a week and a half ago. I would gladly have this gtx 980ti over the 1070 I just got. I could have saved $30 for the same performance and a better built card. Not really concerned about tdp and the 980ti seems to handle complex lighting a bit better. People seem to gloss over the fact the vast majority of the benchmarks showing a 1070 beating a 980ti are using reference models. The reference 980ti had some serious throttling issues thanks to all the heat it makes while the 1070 didn't have that issue. AIB versions performed much better. The strix 980ti overclocked to the max beats a 2000mhz overclocked 1070 just as much as it loses. A good 980ti and a good 1070 are practically equal and since neither can claim smooth 4k gameplay the 8gb vram means nothing compared to the 6gb of the 980ti.
 

you2

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That sucker is 13 inches long; would never fit my case so not sure it is a great deal for myself.
 

MagickMan

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Not hot since it's only as good as a 1070

Hogwash. This is a Lightning, it's built better than any 1070 will ever be. You buy these for OCing, heavy OCing; like set it at 1525MHz @1.25V (where it thrashes the 1070), without throttling, and forget about it. It's a beast.
 

DaveSimmons

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^ There are custom 1070s too.

I'm happy with my Lightning LE, I just realize that it's a last-generation design.
 

killster1

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Wow I'm so tempted.. I was going to order but it's not 400 it's 410 shipped. Don't think tax for California but didn't get that far. I'm dying to upgrade. 980ti oc to close to 1080 would be cool. The benches on YouTube show 1080 beating it still. Wonder when I can get 500$ 1060 sli. Or 480xfire for 500.. ya not all games work mgpu. Only one I play is just cause 3. I hate choices and love great deals that are no brainers. Still waiting for that need 2 cards so can give away the 270xfire I have and upgrade a 6870 that is still chugging along
 

DaveSimmons

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The 1060 is as fast as a stock 980 NON-ti, and will be $250 eventually after the early-adopter tax goes away. That could easily take a month or two.

If you need a good high-end card right now this is worth considering, just realize it is an older architecture.
 

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monkeydelmagico

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Great deal for $400.

Agreed. I picked up a Zotac Amp Omega 980ti a couple weeks ago for same price. It's still $399.- free ship at newegg. Mine does just shy of 1400mhz without any additional voltage.

It was a tough call re: 1070 but the price delta was just too wide. When I can get similar performance for $40-60 less I usually do it.
 

monkeydelmagico

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one more thing to consider, load power consumption of a 1070 is significantly lower than a 980ti - http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1731?vs=1715

btw, used 970/980s are begin given away at much lower prices by individual sellers on the internet or even locally, it does not make sense to buy them brand new at this point


Yes, power consumption is better. How long will it take to recoup the $50.- spread between mid grade 1070 price and top end 980ti price? Hint: long time

970 isn't a competitor. Shouldn't even be in the conversation. 980 is OK and priced appropriately. 980ti's are selling used on ebay for nearly the same price as new. So what are you advising again? Buy a used card for the same price as new?
 

postmortemIA

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to bad shitty cooler and still above msrp and has tax for me ;( triple sucky.. almost bought the 980ti lightning le.. so close to buying.

you know, it does not need fancy cooler because it does not produce 250W of heat.

just think about it - where are these 250W going to go after fancy fan gets them out of case? good deal if you're in AK, MN and NH

Then there's this one with very fancy cooling for $30 more than 980Ti.
 

monkeydelmagico

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you know, it does not need fancy cooler because it does not produce 250W of heat.

just think about it - where are these 250W going to go after fancy fan gets them out of case? good deal if you're in AK, MN and NH

Then there's this one with very fancy cooling for $30 more than 980Ti.

True. Mostly because you can't do much overclocking on 1070's. They are locked down on the voltage control and I haven't seen yet where anyone has hacked past the hard limits set by nvidia.

If someone manages to unlock a 1070 into a 1080 it would be nuts. Until then the bargain prices on top tier 980ti's is an overclocker dream come true.
 

fastcuda

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The 1060 is as fast as a stock 980 NON-ti, and will be $250 eventually after the early-adopter tax goes away. That could easily take a month or two.

If you need a good high-end card right now this is worth considering, just realize it is an older architecture.

I got an email from nvidia today, 1060s are out for 249 retail in stock.
 
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