Cheerleading sticker shock

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TheFamilyMan

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That's right, Clark...the gift that keeps on giving. I do love how the OP won't address the issue myself, AMD, and Puddle Jumper have brought up that he is begrudges his daughter about him having to possibly spend $720 for cheerleading but he has no qualms about spending probably more on his drug habit. LOL.
 

dank69

Lifer
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Only in America "extra" activities after school are considered "part of raising kids"

You see, around the world kids don't have such luxuries.

So it all depends on perspective......yours doesn't exactly line up with reality (which is ok, I'm Americanized as well, but I don't forget where I come from).

I have a feeling buying your kid an Iphone and paying services, buying a Car at 16/insurance/fix/........is ALL part of parenting TO YOU.

Riiiight
So you've set the bar for raising kids at third-world levels? Pretty sure all the other first world nations value extracurricular activities and consider them part of raising your kids. I suppose you'd make your 8yo son get a job to pay for little league if you had one? WTF is wrong with you. There are ways to teach your kids the value of money without being a self-righteous dickhead about it. I doubt track is going to be any cheaper, lol.
 

AMDZen

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I'm just sayin, Vdub is complaining about paying $720....he should be complaining about his daughter wanting to go after an activity that sexualizes and objectifies women.

Perhaps, but as I already pointed out - at least this activity will keep her busy. That is time that she might otherwise be spending in the skinny jeans of the boys around her school.

Would rather have a daughter into cheerleading then nothing at all, leaving her with time to do much more sexual things than dancing around in sexy outfits
 

SheHateMe

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Perhaps, but as I already pointed out - at least this activity will keep her busy. That is time that she might otherwise be spending in the skinny jeans of the boys around her school.

Would rather have a daughter into cheerleading then nothing at all, leaving her with time to do much more sexual things than dancing around in sexy outfits

Have you ever seen one of Vdub's parenting threads? He is a pretty restrictive parent.

So, have a Cheerleader daughter who is SO fucking ironic, you know?

Cause...everyone knows how that story goes....


I thought she would be in a club more along the lines of Future Nuns of America or a Chastity Circle or something.
 

AMDZen

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Apr 15, 2004
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Have you ever seen one of Vdub's parenting threads? He is a pretty restrictive parent.

So, have a Cheerleader daughter who is SO fucking ironic, you know?

Cause...everyone knows how that story goes....


I thought she would be in a club more along the lines of Future Nuns of America or a Chastity Circle or something.

The parents that restrict their daughters the most are the ones who have the most sexually active daughters. So I guess it goes without saying that at least some of my predictions will come true
 

Soundmanred

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If it were up to him, kids wouldn't be doing these "expensive" activities, and just play klasy and chlopek all day.
Keep on smoking that weed while your children hate you.
It's not a crime to be a bad parent, so no worries there. They'll just resent you forever.
 

shadow9d9

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Jul 6, 2004
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The parents that restrict their daughters the most are the ones who have the most sexually active daughters. So I guess it goes without saying that at least some of my predictions will come true

Well, he is a control freak and under the illusion that that type of "parenting" actually works...
 

poofyhairguy

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Nov 20, 2005
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My wife and I are working on kids, so I have been trying to get into the mindset.

The more I think about it, the more I feel I would just pay stuff like this to make sure my child couldn't get into worse. I would look at it as a $700 investment that at least that many hours after school and on weekends she isn't doing drugs or getting pregnant.

Same thing with a smartphone. Any daughter of mine is going to have an iPhone first time she wants one. Thanks to apps like "Find my iPhone" I would consider the $100 monthly phone bill the fee to be able to know where my child is at any time.

Life is all about opportunity costs. If your kids are spoiled but they go to college, get married at the right time to the right guy (and not just the high school BF that knocked her up), and go on to have a good career and their own normal family, then wasn't all those "bribes" over the years to stay on path actually a good investment?
 

shadow9d9

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If it were up to him, kids wouldn't be doing these "expensive" activities, and just play klasy and chlopek all day.
Keep on smoking that weed while your children hate you.
It's not a crime to be a bad parent, so no worries there. They'll just resent you forever.

He smokes marijuana? Really?
 

AMDZen

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Apr 15, 2004
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My wife and I are working on kids, so I have been trying to get into the mindset.

The more I think about it, the more I feel I would just pay stuff like this to make sure my child couldn't get into worse. I would look at it as a $700 investment that at least that many hours after school and on weekends she isn't doing drugs or getting pregnant.

Same thing with a smartphone. Any daughter of mine is going to have an iPhone first time she wants one. Thanks to apps like "Find my iPhone" I would consider the $100 monthly phone bill the fee to be able to know where my child is at any time.

Life is all about opportunity costs. If your kids are spoiled but they go to college, get married at the right time to the right guy (and not just the high school BF that knocked her up), and go on to have a good career and their own normal family, then wasn't all those "bribes" over the years to stay on path actually a good investment?

You're a smart guy. Smart people are in the minority as far as parents go. The problem is that people who shouldn't have children are the one's churning them out.

Everything you say in this post is pretty much what I would do. Makes perfect sense to me.
 
Dec 10, 2005
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Only in America "extra" activities after school are considered "part of raising kids"

You see, around the world kids don't have such luxuries.

So it all depends on perspective......yours doesn't exactly line up with reality (which is ok, I'm Americanized as well, but I don't forget where I come from).

I have a feeling buying your kid an Iphone and paying services, buying a Car at 16/insurance/fix/........is ALL part of parenting TO YOU.

Riiiight

Why don't you charger her a quarter towards the water bill every time she flushes the toilet? Some parts of the world don't have running water.
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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Everyone is attractive.

...in some form or another.


I'm just sayin, Vdub is complaining about paying $720....he should be complaining about his daughter wanting to go after an activity that sexualizes and objectifies women.


totally agree.


the whole point of cheer leading is to look at the girls in skimpy outfits. They are better off going for softball or such.


Why don't you charger her a quarter towards the water bill every time she flushes the toilet? Some parts of the world don't have running water.

hmmm good idea. im going to start charging my kids 1/4th of the water bill! mwhahahahh

wait. we don't have a water bill. fuck..hmmm
 

momeNt

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totally agree.


the whole point of cheer leading is to look at the girls in skimpy outfits. They are better off going for softball or such.

Maybe professional cheer leading when the girls are over 18 years old, but high school cheer leading is about other things.

Creep.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Maybe professional cheer leading when the girls are over 18 years old, but high school cheer leading is about other things.

Creep.

bullshit.

same shit different level. girls are much better off doing other sports from field hockey, softball, vollyball, gymnastics or swimming.
 

sixone

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That's right, Clark...the gift that keeps on giving. I do love how the OP won't address the issue myself, AMD, and Puddle Jumper have brought up that he is begrudges his daughter about him having to possibly spend $720 for cheerleading but he has no qualms about spending probably more on his drug habit. LOL.

So what? If he earned the money, he gets to decide where to spend it. Letting his daughter earn the money to pay for her recreational activities is not a bad thing.
 

Vic Vega

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Originally Posted by Vdubchaos
Only in America "extra" activities after school are considered "part of raising kids"

You see, around the world kids don't have such luxuries.

So it all depends on perspective......yours doesn't exactly line up with reality (which is ok, I'm Americanized as well, but I don't forget where I come from).

I have a feeling buying your kid an Iphone and paying services, buying a Car at 16/insurance/fix/........is ALL part of parenting TO YOU.

Riiiight

Yeah and a LOT of it sucks ass. What's your point, foreigner?
 

poofyhairguy

Lifer
Nov 20, 2005
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So what? If he earned the money, he gets to decide where to spend it.

Child Protective Services would disagree.

Letting his daughter earn the money to pay for her recreational activities is not a bad thing.

Unless that kills her motivation to do the said extracurricular activity which:

1. Could possibly earn her a scholarship for a lot more than $700

2. Or at the very least make her that much more attractive to a better university which will lead to far more than $700 in extra lifetime earning potential for her

3. Or at the very very least means that she has that much less free time to get pregnant and ruin her life
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Child Protective Services would disagree.



Unless that kills her motivation to do the said extracurricular activity which:

1. Could possibly earn her a scholarship for a lot more than $700

2. Or at the very least make her that much more attractive to a better university which will lead to far more than $700 in extra lifetime earning potential for her

3. Or at the very very least means that she has that much less free time to get pregnant and ruin her life


child protection ain't going to give a shit he won't pay $700 for cheerleading. long as she has a roof over head, food and clothes anything else is a bonus.


1-3 again while possible he is doing it right. AT her age she needs to help contribute to extra activities she wants to compete in. Though i am also one that feels a kid shouldn't have to work 30 hours a week either. they should have to help out for shit they want.
 

TheFamilyMan

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Mar 18, 2003
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So what? If he earned the money, he gets to decide where to spend it. Letting his daughter earn the money to pay for her recreational activities is not a bad thing.

Sorry, I've already cut your food...not going to chew it for you too. If you can't see that chastising your daughter for wanting to do cheerleading and needing the parent to front the costs while you're toking it up is bad parenting, then there are some serious issues on your end as well. Also, I never said that he should not hold the daughter accountable for some/part of the costs, so good try on that one.

My gut feeling is that you're wanting to start and argument for argument's sake and I won't bite on it.
 

poofyhairguy

Lifer
Nov 20, 2005
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child protection ain't going to give a shit he won't pay $700 for cheerleading. long as she has a roof over head, food and clothes anything else is a bonus.

CPS would care about drug use in the same house as the child. That was what I was responding to.

1-3 again while possible he is doing it right. AT her age she needs to help contribute to extra activities she wants to compete in. Though i am also one that feels a kid shouldn't have to work 30 hours a week either. they should have to help out for shit they want.

Agree that I see the value in making a kid work for something they want, but to expect a kid to pay $700 (well he said he would pay a third so really $467) in a short timeframe with $10hr babysitting jobs is unreasonable.

The deal I cut would be something like "You prove to me you want it by making the first $100 and I will cover the rest." It has the same effect (if you aren't a cheapskate) without de-motivating the child.
 

AMDZen

Lifer
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Stop it with your logic poofyhairguy. I grew up in a country that doesn't have logic and I'll be damned if I'm going to put up with it
 
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