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SlowSpyder

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I am simply asking you for you to specifically articulate your position.

From my understanding your claim is:
1) at one point the reason for inequality was racism.
2) that racism no longer exists, meaning it no longer causes inequality.
3) inequality is now caused by 'liberal victim culture'.

So, there must have been a changeover at some point and I'm simply marveling at how seamless it was if I'm to take your theory at face value. This would be a coincidence of almost comical proportions and so I just want to confirm your view that's what happened and I'm interested to hear your thoughts about that changeover and how it happened.

I mean talk about one of your all time crazy coincidences.


I am not saying racism does not exist. I am saying it does not exist on a systematic level that stops minorities from achieving (or anyone that wants to achieve). I am saying that today liberal propaganda hurts more than it helps. Watch the Shapiro clip, you only need 60 seconds for the part I see as relevant.
 

SlowSpyder

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The most important thing is you remember he's the real victim. Everyone else's victimhood is fake but we all need to recognize just how picked on he's been in life.


I was in that case indeed a victim of liberal-built bigotry, yes, absolutely 100% true.
 

fskimospy

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I am not saying racism does not exist. I am saying it does not exist on a systematic level that stops minorities from achieving (or anyone that wants to achieve). I am saying that today liberal propaganda hurts more than it helps. Watch the Shapiro clip, you only need 60 seconds for the part I see as relevant.

Great, so you’re saying it no longer causes inequality. Can you confirm my description of your position is correct? If not, can you make any necessary corrections so we can continue?
 

SlowSpyder

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Great, so you’re saying it no longer causes inequality. Can you confirm my description of your position is correct? If not, can you make any necessary corrections so we can continue?


No, I'm not playing your game. I've laid out my opinion clearly. Racism is big business for the left today. They'll manufacture it, they'll invent it, they've made being a victim the popular choice, it appeals to people because that is the path of less resistance and make for a convenient excuse of why you can't vs. the other path which is one of self improvement and hard work. Maybe if people like you stopped preaching "you can't" things would get better.
 

fskimospy

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No, I'm not playing your game. I've laid out my opinion clearly. Racism is big business for the left today. They'll manufacture it, they'll invent it, they've made being a victim the popular choice, it appeals to people because that is the path of less resistance and make for a convenient excuse of why you can't vs. the other path which is one of self improvement and hard work. Maybe if people like you stopped preaching "you can't" things would get better.

You have not laid out your position clearly, which is why I’ve asked you to clarify it. At one point racism was the cause of inequality and now something else is. The thing is the gap has remained remarkably consistent over time and so I’ve repeatedly asked you how your theory accounts for it.

The fact that you haven’t offered any explanation indicates to me you don’t have one but instead of assuming that I want to give you every opportunity to explain.
 

shortylickens

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I dont care.
Theres too many black americans that have accomplished a great deal with what little they were given, and WAY too many white americans that pissed away loads of opportunities because they didnt appreciate how good they had it.
The vast majority of your life is determined by how you act, not how others act. And because thats not a popular idea, we have liberals feeling white guilt and now white privilege.
Oh fucking well.
 

Maxima1

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How many dollars do you lose in life with all else equal except skin tone?

SO to be clear your theory is that racial oppression USED to exist but is gone today and it's just an incredible coincidence that 'liberal victim culture' arose at precisely the same rate that racial oppression was declining in order to keep relative black wages lower than those of whites?

Man, that would be one amazing, amazing coincidence. Can you confirm?

How is that a coincidence? Obviously sympathy for black outcomes would rise as racial oppression decreases, so I don't know what your point is here.

I have no idea why people cling onto the racism explanation so much when the evidence is clear that there must be non-racist additive factors not being accounted for.



 
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SlowSpyder

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You have not laid out your position clearly, which is why I’ve asked you to clarify it. At one point racism was the cause of inequality and now something else is. The thing is the gap has remained remarkably consistent over time and so I’ve repeatedly asked you how your theory accounts for it.

The fact that you haven’t offered any explanation indicates to me you don’t have one but instead of assuming that I want to give you every opportunity to explain.


I've been clear. Let me try once more. Racism does not hold anyone back on a widespread level today. Any failure to achieve today is a personal problem. The system isn't holding anyone back. Anyone, absolutely anyone can achieve in America today if they make responsible personal decisions and put effort into bettering themselves in a manner that employers find valuable. Also, the Democrats push a narrative of victimization that does not help, but hurts minority communities. It really is that simple.

No response to the Shapiro clip? The Morgan freeman clip? Each one only requires 60 seconds of your time.
 

fskimospy

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I've been clear. Let me try once more. Racism does not hold anyone back on a widespread level today. Any failure to achieve today is a personal problem. The system isn't holding anyone back. Anyone, absolutely anyone can achieve in America today if they make responsible personal decisions and put effort into bettering themselves in a manner that employers find valuable. Also, the Democrats push a narrative of victimization that does not help, but hurts minority communities. It really is that simple.

No response to the Shapiro clip? The Morgan freeman clip? Each one only requires 60 seconds of your time.

Okay so if racism was the cause and no longer is, what is the cause now?
 
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You have not laid out your position clearly, which is why I’ve asked you to clarify it. At one point racism was the cause of inequality and now something else is. The thing is the gap has remained remarkably consistent over time and so I’ve repeatedly asked you how your theory accounts for it.

The fact that you haven’t offered any explanation indicates to me you don’t have one but instead of assuming that I want to give you every opportunity to explain.

I don't think you get it. He's so persecuted that he singularly is the cause of that gap. The only discrimination that occurs is against him.
 
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Another rich liberal trying to prove how virtuous she is.

I'm helping the other people by telling them how good I have it with the system! I'm doing my job and working hard for oppressed people! YAY!

Nevermind actually doing something - like putting your rich ass money where your mouth is. God forbid you donate some money and build some wells in Africa - or to doctors without borders. Nawww.... Let's virtue signal baby.

(Did I score brownie points?)
 
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You have not laid out your position clearly, which is why I’ve asked you to clarify it. At one point racism was the cause of inequality and now something else is. The thing is the gap has remained remarkably consistent over time and so I’ve repeatedly asked you how your theory accounts for it.

The fact that you haven’t offered any explanation indicates to me you don’t have one but instead of assuming that I want to give you every opportunity to explain.

My honest opinion? I really think it's things like education. And let me preframe this - this isn't a simple answer. I can't say that the answer is education and xyz is why. It's a very complex issue - everything from school budgets being determined by location (property taxes) - to how people are culturally raised etc...

I mean just off the top of my head - All of these will be factors on your success in life
-Where you live (part of town)
-Budget of education
-Quality of education/teachers
-Culture you surround yourself with
-Single parent household

An off-shoot of that will also be how previous racism/segregation affects the overall learning development generations down the line. The same goes for how it affected cultures and attitudes. I don't think that is something that we can easily equate and/or calculate.


You want to know what one of the biggest determining factors is for probability of having a shit life? It's if you grow up without a dad. But no one wants to talk about that kind of stuff... you know... the importance of the dad/father figure? HASHTAG #METOO #FEMINISM #DERRRRRP

It's very similar to the "Muh gender wage gap 72 cents on the dollar" debate - Once controlled for all the variables I guarantee the differences are minimal.


Really though: Do you think it's "the system" that is to blame for this?

 
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SlowSpyder

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The single parenthood rate for African Americans is somewhere north of 70%. This didn't happen because of conservative policies. As stated above, it is complex and I am oversimplifying it. But this idea that systematic racism is to blame for a lack of achievement is a joke. It is more of Democrats doing what they do best, making excuses and then wondering why things don't get better as they continue to lower the bar for society. Skin color, sex, ethnicity, etc. does not make me any better or worse than anyone else, nor does it for you. As I said earlier, anyone, regardless of what demographic they are, if they make responsible decisions and put effort into achieving and bettering themselves will achieve in America. If there are people that don't make responsible decisions (ie having kids that they cannot afford, aren't ready for, and will not have a dad around) and don't put effort into achieving (easy to do when you're conditioned to believe that you're a victim and the system is stacked against you, so why try) then it is easy to see why not everyone can achieve. How do you fix that, by continuing to make excuses for feelings and get people more reliant on the government to survive?
 

Commodus

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You want to know what one of the biggest determining factors is for probability of having a shit life? It's if you grow up without a dad. But no one wants to talk about that kind of stuff... you know... the importance of the dad/father figure? HASHTAG #METOO #FEMINISM #DERRRRRP

Recent research suggests that kids with same-sex parents (of any gender) do as well as stereotypical mother-and-father households, and might even do slightly better in school. So no, a father figure might not be necessary at all. You know what offers the best chance of success? Readily available, loving parents.

Tell me, what inherent advantage does having a dick between your legs offer in terms of parenting?
 

SlowSpyder

Lifer
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Recent research suggests that kids with same-sex parents (of any gender) do as well as stereotypical mother-and-father households, and might even do slightly better in school. So no, a father figure might not be necessary at all. You know what offers the best chance of success? Readily available, loving parents.

Tell me, what inherent advantage does having a dick between your legs offer in terms of parenting?


I don't think he's getting at same sex, but absentee parenthood. At least that is how I take that comment. I think a kid raised by a LGBT couple has a lot better chance at life than a child in the average absentee father / single mother situation.


*edit - Also, I'm not surprised you went out of your way to take it that way. You're conditioned as such.
 

Commodus

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I don't think he's getting at same sex, but absentee parenthood. At least that is how I take that comment. I think a kid raised by a LGBT couple has a lot better chance at life than a child in the average absentee father / single mother situation.

This is one of those few times I can agree. It's not about the gender of the parents or their sexual orientation, it's that there's a strong support system. And I don't think we should necessarily fault single parents, since the reasons for being single can vary widely (leaving an abusive relationship, for example). And some single parents bend over backwards to make things work where there are some pretty lousy two-parent households.
 
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Recent research suggests that kids with same-sex parents (of any gender) do as well as stereotypical mother-and-father households, and might even do slightly better in school. So no, a father figure might not be necessary at all. You know what offers the best chance of success? Readily available, loving parents.

Tell me, what inherent advantage does having a dick between your legs offer in terms of parenting?
I never indicated it couldn't be done with same sex dipshit, way to completely misinterpret my post and act as if I have anything against gays/lesbian couples.

I have zero qualms with any couple raising a child as long as they teach their kids well.
 
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The most important thing is you remember he's the real victim. Everyone else's victimhood is fake but we all need to recognize just how picked on he's been in life.

The most important thing to remember is that, in his own tiny way, he's deliberately and actively contributing to the destruction of modern liberal democracy.
 
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