The right constantly use demands for 'personal responsibilty' as a means to evade ever taking responsibility for anything they do. It's always someone else's 'personal responsibilty', never anything to do with them.
The left conditioning people to abandon personal responsibility.
The right constantly use demands for 'personal responsibilty' as a means to evade ever taking responsibility for anything they do. It's always someone else's 'personal responsibilty', never anything to do with them.
It has been a work in progress for decades.
Was racism still holding black people back in the 80s? In the 90s? The 2000s? When did it stop?
It has been a steady decline to the point it isn't a problem on a mass scale today. Another poster put up a graph showing acceptance rate of mixed marriage. In 2013 it was ~87% 50 years prior it was single digit percentage acceptance. I bet that graph largely parallels racist attitudes in the country. As we've gotten considerably less racist as society, certain important measurables have declined for African Americans, as they've embraced liberalism, as Democrats have pulled the wool over their eyes pretending to be their champions. At a point calling out racism has gone from a noble cause to draw awareness and educate to creating and manufacturing it today.
Any comments on those Shapiro and Morgan Freeman clips? They only require about ~60 seconds of your time to make their point, which is relevant to this discussion.
Here they are again.
That would mean anyone aged about 38 or older entered a job market where presumably at least one third of employers were horrendously racist towards black people. Research clearly shows that cohorts of workers who enter the job market during a recession face a lifetime earnings penalty due to the diminished job opportunities they face in a down market. (It’s harder to get that first job, which means less experience, which means worse future jobs on average) If 1/3 of employers are racist against you any sensible person would conclude that black people during that time also faced fewer job opportunities due to racism.
That means that even by your definition the significant majority of prime age black workers as defined by BLS had their wages and job prospects depressed by racism. Looks like we agree it’s still racism after all! Thanks.
Lol. You should spend less time watching Ben Shapiro videos. Otherwise you might end up as dumb as he is. I still remember him shrieking and rending his hair about how Obamacare was like the Dredd Scott decision. Hahaha.[/img]
Okay, if we assume that views on interracial marriage is a proxy for racism which by the way sets the bar for racism to be the hilariously low standard of whether or not people of different skin colors should be able to procreate, that would mean that as late as about 2003 a full third of the country was so hideously racist that they thought black people shouldn’t be able to marry whites.
That would mean anyone aged about 38 or older entered a job market where presumably at least one third of employers were horrendously racist towards black people. Research clearly shows that cohorts of workers who enter the job market during a recession face a lifetime earnings penalty due to the diminished job opportunities they face in a down market. (It’s harder to get that first job, which means less experience, which means worse future jobs on average) If 1/3 of employers are racist against you any sensible person would conclude that black people during that time also faced fewer job opportunities due to racism.
That means that even by your definition the significant majority of prime age black workers as defined by BLS had their wages and job prospects depressed by racism. Looks like we agree it’s still racism after all! Thanks.
Lol. You should spend less time watching Ben Shapiro videos. Otherwise you might end up as dumb as he is. I still remember him shrieking and rending his hair about how Obamacare was like the Dredd Scott decision. Hahaha.[/img]
I made it a point earlier that I'm sure there are some implications from past behaviors that can potentially affect generations down the line. But I also said that there is no way to calculate that amount - and using it as a blanket to say "THIS IS WHY!" is just pure crazy.
So on that note - since you like to imply that it's all from past racism - how does past racism equate to a drastic increase in single parenthood over the years - with it INCREASING over the years after racism has decreased. Just curious on your thoughts there.
So how does that help with all the excuse making today, a decade and a half later where anyone can achieve if they want to in America and racism no longer is holding anyone back?
I never said the entirety of the income gap is due to racism, as you said that would be impossible to quantify. SlowSpyder’s opinion is that none of it (or almost none of it) is due to racism though, which is impossibly stupid.
As for single parenthood, we have seen it increase substantially across all ethnic groups in the last 50 years. As for why it has increased my guess would be that the social safety net no longer requires women to stay with unfit partners out of economic necessity.
I just explained that, dummy.
Even by your own personally selected metric and with the declaration that racism is over because people think it should be legal for black people to have sex with white people the large majority of prime age black workers had diminished job prospects due to racism, which research clearly shows has lifetime income effects.
You owned yourself yet again, hahaha. This is what happens when you depend on YouTube to tell you what to think instead of thinking for yourself.
Okay, if we assume that views on interracial marriage is a proxy for racism which by the way sets the bar for racism to be the hilariously low standard of whether or not people of different skin colors should be able to procreate, that would mean that as late as about 2003 a full third of the country was so hideously racist that they thought black people shouldn’t be able to marry whites.
That would mean anyone aged about 38 or older entered a job market where presumably at least one third of employers were horrendously racist towards black people. Research clearly shows that cohorts of workers who enter the job market during a recession face a lifetime earnings penalty due to the diminished job opportunities they face in a down market. (It’s harder to get that first job, which means less experience, which means worse future jobs on average) If 1/3 of employers are racist against you any sensible person would conclude that black people during that time also faced fewer job opportunities due to racism.
That means that even by your definition the significant majority of prime age black workers as defined by BLS had their wages and job prospects depressed by racism. Looks like we agree it’s still racism after all! Thanks.
Lol. You should spend less time watching Ben Shapiro videos. Otherwise you might end up as dumb as he is. I still remember him shrieking and rending his hair about how Obamacare was like the Dredd Scott decision. Hahaha.[/img]
All that graph shows is how absoutely astounding was the level of racism in the US 50 years ago. I notice the vast majority of Americans would have disapproved of my parents' marriage, yet alone my grandparents and still less my great-grandparents (they were all mixed-race marriages - though that didnt' stop some of my forebears being racist towards their own mixed-race children). It says nothing about what effects both past and ongoing racism may have on employment.
I agree! I was saying that even if I completely granted his premise that racism was over and that views on interracial marriage were a useful proxy for that would STILL mean racism was a significant factor in the black/white wage gap.
Even when I’m as supportive of Slow’s point as it is possible to be he still owned himself. Pretty funny.
I agree! I was saying that even if I completely granted his premise that racism was over and that views on interracial marriage were a useful proxy for that would STILL mean racism was a significant factor in the black/white wage gap.
Not just the 'social safety net' but the fact that it's now easier and more socially-acceptable for women to find paid employment or to live independent of a man than it used to be. In my parents' day women weren't even allowed to take out mortgages without a husband as co-signer. You can't assume all single parents are on welfare.
So how does that help with all the excuse making today, a decade and a half later where anyone can achieve if they want to in America and racism no longer is holding anyone back?
Why would I care about yet another stupid YouTube video?
It was pretty amusing to watch you own yourself yet again though, haha.
#slowsostupidOwn myself? Stop being racist and referring to the owning of people as property, like slaves, because you think you pulled some kind of sweet internet move on a small corner of the internet. Racist.
Also, I disagree completely. Going by that graph, today, right now, racism isn't holding anyone back from achieving. Continuing to push that narrative is not helping anyone, in fact it is proving to be quite harmful. Time to give up the old thinking and change with the times.
I've posted three solid videos of people saying what I'm saying here more or less, but they are doing a better job of it. Two of them take barely 60 seconds of your time. And you haven't addressed any of them. Freeman told the truth. Shapiro crushed your argument. And the woman in the #warkaway video is a prime example of red pilling, her opening her eyes and seeing what's really happening.
#slowsostupid
I find it hilariously ignorant of Slow Spyder to claim that he was a victim of Affirmative Action....it had nothing to do with the fact that the person who got the job was better prepared and made better decisions and applied himself in a way that the employer felt would compliment the company!!Own myself? Stop being racist and referring to the owning of people as property, like slaves, because you think you pulled some kind of sweet internet move on a small corner of the internet. Racist.
Also, I disagree completely. Going by that graph, today, right now, racism isn't holding anyone back from achieving. Continuing to push that narrative is not helping anyone, in fact it is proving to be quite harmful. Time to give up the old thinking and change with the times.
I've posted three solid videos of people saying what I'm saying here more or less, but they are doing a better job of it. Two of them take barely 60 seconds of your time. And you haven't addressed any of them. Freeman told the truth. Shapiro crushed your argument. And the woman in the #warkaway video is a prime example of red pilling, her opening her eyes and seeing what's really happening.
Even if they aren't on welfare, most Americans do not have good jobs. Generally educated stay together and they are more likely to pair together which causes even greater inequality obviously. With both sexes working, the economy is based on two incomes. Hard to adequately provide for dependents based on that.
Own myself? Stop being racist and referring to the owning of people as property, like slaves, because you think you pulled some kind of sweet internet move on a small corner of the internet. Racist.
Also, I disagree completely. Going by that graph, today, right now, racism isn't holding anyone back from achieving. Continuing to push that narrative is not helping anyone, in fact it is proving to be quite harmful. Time to give up the old thinking and change with the times.
I've posted three solid videos of people saying what I'm saying here more or less, but they are doing a better job of it. Two of them take barely 60 seconds of your time. And you haven't addressed any of them. Freeman told the truth. Shapiro crushed your argument. And the woman in the #warkaway video is a prime example of red pilling, her opening her eyes and seeing what's really happening.