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erunion

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Well, Sophia is due out 2H 2014.

So maybe it will be TSMC 20nm.


Its looking like it is only a 9 month development time. So I'm thinking nothing on this is going to be new, just preexisting tech put together in a new way.

I'm now convinced that Value on the slide means feature phones. Intel has a big feature phone business, like Nokia's Asha line. So again, that makes me think nothing leading edge on it.
 

Khato

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I'm now convinced that Value on the slide means feature phones. Intel has a big feature phone business, like Nokia's Asha line. So again, that makes me think nothing leading edge on it.

Correct, when Hermann was talking about SoFIA he was holding a feature phone and talking about how strong Intel already was in that market. But currently feature phones just make use of the modem's processor for what little they need, which of course won't work as the feature phone market transitions towards smartphone capability.

The result being that they're taking the existing design more or less but using a silvermont core instead. (And yes, he did state that it'll be a silvermont core, which I found rather surprising.)
 

cbn

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Correct, when Hermann was talking about SoFIA he was holding a feature phone and talking about how strong Intel already was in that market. But currently feature phones just make use of the modem's processor for what little they need, which of course won't work as the feature phone market transitions towards smartphone capability.

The result being that they're taking the existing design more or less but using a silvermont core instead. (And yes, he did state that it'll be a silvermont core, which I found rather surprising.)

http://intelstudios.edgesuite.net/im/2013/archive/he/archive.html

Some more info to add: according to the above video starting at 26:35, The SoFIA chip will have FM radio, bluetooth, 3G, HSPA+, Wifi, GPS.

At 28:43, the Sophia LTE is mentioned for 2015. I noticed the slide also says "External Foundry".
 
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cbn

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However the next version of SoFIA (wasn't clear whether this was late 2015 or 2016) would be brought in to Intel's 14nm process. (Such was stated by BK during his presentation.)

By the way, replays of all the presentations are now available - http://intelstudios.edgesuite.net/im/2013/live_im.html


http://intelstudios.edgesuite.net/im/2013/archive/bk/archive.html

Listening to BK's presentation above he starts talking about step one at 30:30 into the video. (He describes step 1 as SoFIA in 2014 and SoFIA LTE in 2015).

At 31:01 into the above video, BK starts talking about step 2 which is to bring the SoFIA series into the Intel fab at 14nm.

So it is interesting that "Step 1" actually has two parts: SoFIA and SoFIA LTE.

I just wonder if SoFIA might be 28nm and SoFIA LTE becomes 20nm. Then after that they move to 14nm.
 
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cbn

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Its looking like it is only a 9 month development time. So I'm thinking nothing on this is going to be new, just preexisting tech put together in a new way.

I'm now convinced that Value on the slide means feature phones. Intel has a big feature phone business, like Nokia's Asha line. So again, that makes me think nothing leading edge on it.

Did some quick research on the Nokia Asha.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_Asha_311

Apparently the 311 is the flagship of the Asha Full Touch Family.

Specs:

1 Ghz ARM11
128 MB RAM
256 MB ROM
up to 32 GB microSDHC
Screen resolution: 400 x 240
Rear Camera: 3.2 MP (CMOS sensor) EDoF

Connectivity:

WLAN IEEE 802.11 b/g/n (2.4 GHz)
Bluetooth 2.1 +EDR
micro-USB 2.0
USB On-the-Go 1.3
3.5 mm AV connector (audio in/out)
SIM card
FM receiver with RDS

Compatible Networks:

GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
GPRS/EDGE class B, multislot class 33
UMTS 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
HSDPA Cat10, 14.4 Mbps
HSUPA Cat6 5.7 Mbps


So the CPU and RAM is pretty weak in these.

It will be interesting to see how much Intel can boost these with hardware. Definitely a Silvermont atom core would be a massive improvement over ARM11. I just wonder how much RAM will be boosted and if eMMC will be included in a SoFIA equipped device.
 
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