I dunno exdeath, I'm thinking about a Boss 302 once I get out of tech school, and I hear that adding some turbos isn't THAT expensive... :biggrin:
LOL just another Mus....OH $#&?%#$ FAWK!!
Still prefer the Terminator styling over the the SN197, sad thing is I dont even like the New Edge styling much either except for the 03/04 Cobra.
Can't wait to run into one of these. Im anticipating a flux of butt hurt 4th gen owners salivating for revenge and hunting down 03 Cobras, and most are just going to reopen their old wounds :awe:
I dunno exdeath, I'm thinking about a Boss 302 once I get out of tech school, and I hear that adding some turbos isn't THAT expensive... :biggrin:
It is if you do it right and plan to run more than 9 psi safely.
I was thinking forged internals and go from there. I have a feeling my buddy may be picking up one of these ZL1's in a couple years as well. We have a gentleman's bet as to who is the better driver. :awe:
My take on adding boost to a n/a engine is that the blower or turbo setup costs the same ($6000-8000) no matter what you do with it. Simply bolting on to the N/A shortblock and limiting yourself to 7-9 psi isn't getting much bang for the buck from your initial investment, but add another $2000-3000 to the shortblock and and that same $8000 turbo setup can now run 26 psi and realize it's full potential :awe:
I'd get me a CTS-V before a ZL1, I need a cushy cruiser for driving around town so I can make the Cobra less streetable
My next mod is going to be 15" rear wheels and some real tires...
Yeah it's 9psi. So the question is, do I want to replace the rods and pistons with forged internals. And while they are in there, might as well replace the crank, with a forged crank. I really don't have a problem with the cost of the parts, it's just the labor involved, which I'm going to assume will be pretty costly. They have to pull the whole engine out and I need to have a place I can trust to put it all back together correctly. Not to mention this will void the warranty on the engine.
The Camaro's Z/28 option code, introduced in December 1966 for the 1967 model year, was designed to allow any Chevy dealer the ability to offer a virtually race-ready Camaro. The original 1967 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 was a muscle car that emphasized handling as much as power. Which is why, GM folks tell us, this week's introduction of the high-horsepower LSA-powered Chevrolet Camaro was called the ZL1.
GM still wants to bring to market a lighter, better-handling, higher-than-SS version of the Camaro to market called the Z28. One source, with the product team, tells us that for the moment, although Chevy's focused on selling the ZL1, they're still working on developing the Z28 and unveiling it in the next 18 months.
The real question, what are the limits of the LSA? I know the LS3 (which the LSA is based off of) has a limit of roughly 600rwhp/550rwhp tq before people start to worry.
So regardless, if the ZL1 Camaro is only making 550rwhp flywheel it does have room to "grow" with a simple pulley change and dyno tune.
Jalopnik is now reporting that the ZL1 was not chosen INSTEAD of the Z28, but that it's just coming BEFORE the Z28.
http://jalopnik.com/#!5757938/the-camaro-z28-is-still-coming
Well, if it's coming in 18 months, that sounds about right for a version of the next gen LSx motor. They're calling for less displacement, so a high strung version (perhaps what will be in the C7 Vette?) is not out of the question. The racing Vettes are using a version of the next gen motor, displacing 5.5L.But if that true...what engine are they planning...and is there really a big enough segment between the two? Maybe the LS7 or a detuned variant?
But if that true...what engine are they planning...and is there really a big enough segment between the two? Maybe the LS7 or a detuned variant?
LOL just another Mus....OH $#&?%#$ FAWK!!
Still prefer the Terminator styling over the the SN197, sad thing is I dont even like the New Edge styling much either except for the 03/04 Cobra.
Can't wait to run into one of these. Im anticipating a flux of butt hurt 4th gen owners salivating for revenge and hunting down 03 Cobras, and most are just going to reopen their old wounds :awe:
Ported M112 also makes 550 on a Cobra with a weak undersized factory blower still, and the 2.3 TVS on the ZL1 is almost as good as a KB/Whipple. As it is, the bigger Camaro will need 100+ hp more than a Terminator just to hold its ground.
Well, if it's coming in 18 months, that sounds about right for a version of the next gen LSx motor. They're calling for less displacement, so a high strung version (perhaps what will be in the C7 Vette?) is not out of the question. The racing Vettes are using a version of the next gen motor, displacing 5.5L.
You could always get that Interlagos Blue M3 and deal with the awesome n/a motor...
And I have my "cushy cruiser," it's called this with fixed doors and a 2.0L turbo-4 from a Cobalt SS:
Nothing personal but you actually put money into that piece of shit?
I'll be just another a Mustang driver, just like exdeath...
I guess I just like being able to being recognized by my car as much as myself. The cars we buy are an extension of ourselves and I guess if you want to buy the same car everyone else in the world has that's fine but I personally don't want that. Every car I have owned has not been a car everyone drives and I like it better that way. The way I see it is like a Viper vs Vette Z06. Sure the Z06 might be just as fast, easier to drive on the roads, and cheaper, but the Viper has exclusivity, immediately recognizable, and that wow factor that Vette's just don't have. They're both good vehicles but one car you see around every corner and the other you rarely see.
haha no harm no foul. It actually was a super clean car before it got hit by a lady in a Suzuki SL-7. Fresh coat of paint, no visible rust, and less than 100k on the odometer. She still runs perfect and has about 107,000 miles, and I got two doors for $250 (rust-free!), so putting a little cash into a car which was free to me isn't that bad financially. I do all my own work on her, and she's my first. :awe:
I guess I just like being able to being recognized by my car as much as myself. The cars we buy are an extension of ourselves and I guess if you want to buy the same car everyone else in the world has that's fine but I personally don't want that. Every car I have owned has not been a car everyone drives and I like it better that way. The way I see it is like a Viper vs Vette Z06. Sure the Z06 might be just as fast, easier to drive on the roads, and cheaper, but the Viper has exclusivity, immediately recognizable, and that wow factor that Vette's just don't have. They're both good vehicles but one car you see around every corner and the other you rarely see.
Always been a fan of sleepers. Still remember fondly years ago getting beat down by a plymouth something with an upgraded turbo and an engine from a dodge van. Can't remember the exact name of it but it was fast and it blew my doors off.
There has been a turbo Mustang before. The Mustang SVO (SVO became SVT) back in the 80's were 4 cylinder turbo Mustangs with the same BHP as the V8 Mustang GT. They were both on the market at the same time. IIRC the SVO had some success as a weekend track car.
I haven't driven the new Camaro, just sat in one for a few minutes during an oil change and I'll give GM some credit, the fit/finish were nice and more engine/suspension choices are always better but I one thing I noticed immediately, visibility in the car was just godawful, I know that won't matter to a lot of folks but I didn't like that fact at all..