When have we ever seen leaks with both Nvidia's future cards and AMDs future cards on them?
I just dont think this leak can be real. I mean, the leak is claiming AMD chip is 20nm, how is that possible. Its just not likely
I really hope AMD can launch a very potent GPU soon, i just think this is a fake leak. Way too suspicious
So?
That's literally what Nvidia will say. As long as Nvidia can win the benchmark wars, first to market, anything, that's all that matters.
Nvidia isn't a stupid company, they play to win.
I have 0 doubt no matter how good a chip AMD has, Nvidia will play the launch phase of this masterfully.
Exactly. NV isn't in a rush to release GM200, not when 970/980 small dies are selling for such good prices.
They will wait for AMD to release R380X and R390X then adjust GM200 to match/beat it. That way, they can sell GM200 for a 25% (match) or 50% (beat it by ~5%) price premium and still be sold out.
There's a new sheriff in town at AMD HQ. While that doesn't guarantee they will play their cards any better, it does mean that you can't just expect the status quo. It's not the Rory Read amateur hour anymore.
I have a feeling if 390X really beats GM200, some users on our forum will switch from NV, especially since some of them must be pretty pissed after how NV treated Kepler's driver performance in the latest games. Of course there will be NV loyalists who'll pay $700-1000 for GM200 and even if 390X was given to them for free they wouldn't want it. You already know who they are.
If anything Rory should have been a much better marketing guy than Lisa Su.
When have we ever seen leaks with both Nvidia's future cards and AMDs future cards on them?
I just dont think this leak can be real. I mean, the leak is claiming AMD chip is 20nm, how is that possible. Its just not likely
Exactly. NV isn't in a rush to release GM200, not when 970/980 small dies are selling for such good prices.
They will wait for AMD to release R380X and R390X then adjust GM200 to match/beat it. That way, they can sell GM200 for a 25% (match) or 50% (beat it by ~5%) price premium and still be sold out.
Every GPU release while he was in charge was a disaster. There's no way anyone could have done worse.
7970 released at too low clocks allowing the 680 to steal it's thunder and
then it took 6 months to respond with a 75MHz O/C. Which was all it took. By then it was too late. They never regained the mindset from the 680 while they had the highest performing GPU for months.
290 released with a cooler designed for a card with a 100W less TDP. Then in too low of a quantities. Even with mining sucking every last one made and them all being reference designs (which are purchased complete from AMD) they not only didn't increase market share but couldn't even make a profit.
295x2 absolutely perfect card with the best multi GPU implementation ever. Even released at 1/2 the price of the TitanZ (which nVidia didn't even give to reviewers) they've had to drop them to less than 1/2 price to sell them.
I'm sure they were happy to pay Read to leave before he killed the company.
TSMC 20nm GPUs allegedly taped out months ago, an early 1Q launch isn't suspicious at all, despite some of AT's arm chair engineers claiming that AMD is doomed and will skip 20nm altogether. In fact, its quite likely at least the prominent 300 series cards would be 20nm. I'm sure several older cards will end up rebranded as 300 series parts. :/ Radeon 7970/R9 280X/R9 370X?
Every GPU release while he was in charge was a disaster. There's no way anyone could have done worse.
If recent Zauba manifest and AMD's weak Q4 guidance are anything to go by, Q1 launch is very suspicious, let alone early.
one arm chair engineer to another ^^
OEMs and laptop builders should receive their GPU far ahead of actual launch,
so Q1 should definitely show in Q4, let alone early Q1
Hopefully AMD pulls it off, I'd rather not lay out a few grand on a pair of Titans again. Also hope this all happens before March next year and Witcher 3's release.
You must really enjoy XDR2 with your HD 7970. Maybe it's the reason why you skipped superb price/perf ration R9 200.
But the fact is GTX 970 launch made a huge impact and it provided performance close to R9 295X2 for USD 700.. :thumbsup:
What are you smoking? GTX 970 is between R9 290 and R9 290x in performance.
can't blame the CEO alone. Raja Koduri needs to take responsibility for his division. He joined AMD 6 months before Hawaii launched and could have told the guys to make a better reference cooler for Hawaii.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6907/the-king-is-back-raja-koduri-leaves-apple-returns-to-amd
AMD nailed that one with good reviews and product selling well. But the fact is GTX 970 launch made a huge impact and it provided performance close to R9 295X2 for USD 700. So AMD did what they had to do, which is cut prices. AMD also knows whats coming down the line. The R9 295X2 will be an even tougher sell once Fiji XT and Bermdua XT launches. So AMD are making sure inventory is cleared before next gen arrives. :thumbsup:
He is clearly referring to SLI 970, for $700. It was and still is a good product.
He's the captain. His fault. The 295x2 launched in April. The 970 wasn't even a twinkle in anyone's eyes yet. The 970 is slightly slower overall (stock clocks) than the 290X. It doesn't even live in the same neighborhood as the 295x2.
Actually it looks like AMD is going to play this one well. Get R9 380X (Fiji XT) out at USD 399 and force Nvidia to cut GTX 980 prices and launch GM200. Then bring the big boy Bermuda XT and take the flagship GPU crown. Bermuda Pro should take care of GM200 cut down. btw if R9 390X performance is 65% faster than R9 290X, that would put it 45% faster than GTX 980 and roughly 6 - 7% faster than GM200 (35% faster than GTX 980). AMD's OC headroom should be pretty good with the GF 28SHP process which has lower leakage than TSMC 28HP. If those leaks are true Nvidia are going to have to settle for 2nd place. anyway these GPUs will be going at each others throat so expect great prices :thumbsup:
Except NV has never lost the SGPU crown in a long time.People thought AMD would take that back by introducing 290X but they couldn't, so while it will be highly competitive I have very little doubt the SGPU crown will belong to NV.
It depends on whether you think Bermuda XT is 20 or 28nm. If its 28nm, it's expecting way too much for it to be 65% faster than Hawaii XT. On 20nm, sure. It would also mean they have a good chance at beating GM200.
Except NV has never lost the SGPU crown in a long time.People thought AMD would take that back by introducing 290X but they couldn't, so while it will be highly competitive I have very little doubt the SGPU crown will belong to NV.
There's a new sheriff in town at AMD HQ. While that doesn't guarantee they will play their cards any better, it does mean that you can't just expect the status quo. It's not the Rory Read amateur hour anymore.