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Vesku

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Then I don't think anything would make you upgrade. The 970/290/290x can be had for ~$250 (290 the cheapest obviously) and up to ~$330. If 2-3x the performance, for that amount is not appealing, you probably don't need the performance. What do you want, those to be $100?

There are some great options right not for a decent price. ~$300 buys you 95% flagship performance. That's solid....

From what I've seen the 290/970 would just allow me to return to Ultra from High on my OCed 7950. Where as a full node jump ~$300-350 GPU should open up higher resolutions/multi-monitor options.
 

Keysplayr

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Where have you seen that? GTX970/980 were meant for GTX670/680 users to upgrade a tier. And those are faster than 7950s. I think it's a little more than switching from "High" to "Ultra". And again with obsessing for node jumps. 390X is looking to appear on 28nm as well as Big Maxwell. Unless we are all being seriously misled.
 

Elfear

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Where have you seen that? GTX970/980 were meant for GTX670/680 users to upgrade a tier. And those are faster than 7950s. I think it's a little more than switching from "High" to "Ultra". And again with obsessing for node jumps. 390X is looking to appear on 28nm as well as Big Maxwell. Unless we are all being seriously misled.





A 670 is basically the same performance as an 800Mhz 7950. If Vesku is running around 1100Mhz, he's probably on par with a 1100-1200Mhz 680. A 970 would still provide a substantial upgrade though. Higher details and some more AA.
 

Vesku

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A 670 is basically the same performance as an 800Mhz 7950. If Vesku is running around 1100Mhz, he's probably on par with a 1100-1200Mhz 680. A 970 would still provide a substantial upgrade though. Higher details and some more AA.

"Higher details and some more AA." Exactly this, and yes I'm running at 1080MHz. 390X and Big Maxwell will probably be the kind of performance I want with an upgrade but I don't see them being priced at $300-350 in the near future, considering that's what Nvidia brought the 970 in at. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that kind of performance + price when we get an actual GPU manufacturing node improvement, especially if it's TSMC or Samsung-GF FinFet. Although if the 28nm trend continues with the next node, the launch price for what I'm expecting may be $400-450.

The good news to me is that given the performance improvements Nvidia made on the same 28nm node and possibly also from AMD if these 380/390 rumors are true, the odds of the upper-mid range finfet GPUs providing enough performance for very respectable single GPU triple 1080P/1440P seem better.
 
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Attic

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The 970/980 don't provide enough of a performance jump at my desired price point to make me finally upgrade my almost 3 year old GPU. Just as the 290/290X did not entice me to do so. Where as the next full node jump GPUs will probably provide that performance jump, if that somehow is not the case then the path to ever more realistic games is going to get bumpy.


Somehow folks know you've got a highly OC'd 7950 despite that not being in a sig.

Highly OC'd 7950's are special cards. I think where a number of folks sit from that class of speed is that they need to go dual GPU to get the "Whammo!" they want from current new upgrade options, but the drawbacks from Dual GPU are there.

Crysis 3 Very High at 1080P still stands as the most realistic/best realized game engine i've seen, though and I wouldn't want to run that on a 7950 no matter the OC. The conundrum is that Crysis 3 level graphics dont have matching gameplay to warrant dropping a ton of cash on a new GPU.

It's hard to find the balance where we sit now, the 390/390x I doubt will provide that for a lot of folks. We need better big budget games. I stare codly at Ubisoft/Activision/EA as I type this.

Hoping TW3 gets things stirred up and of course HL3 is still needed to help usher in next gen level graphics and gameplay that's going to make me truely excited about new GPU tech. I'd like to push better at 1080P before moving into 2160P, and i'd guess 20nm and win 10 will be there to usher that in. Windows current needs better DPI support.
 

Vesku

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Highly OC'd 7950's are special cards.

Pretty much, all those people who said that the 2GB on the 670/680 versus the 3GB on the 7950/7970 wasn't a big deal were quite wrong. If I'd settled on a 2GB 670 instead of the 3GB 7950 I'd probably have already purchased a 970 replacement. Some of the games most likely to trigger an upgrade from first gen 28nm have been delayed into mid 2015. The Witcher 3 is currently May next year, Fallout 4 hasn't even been officially confirmed yet, Dishonored 2 has no set date, the next Elder Scrolls game is also unconfirmed, and of course the perpetually hoped for yet uncomfirmed game Half Life 3. So that's another reason to try to hold out for true next node GPUs.
 
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Keysplayr

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A 670 is basically the same performance as an 800Mhz 7950. If Vesku is running around 1100Mhz, he's probably on par with a 1100-1200Mhz 680. A 970 would still provide a substantial upgrade though. Higher details and some more AA.

Over clocks must be applied across the board then. 7950, 670, 680, 970, 980.
 
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Rvenger

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Time to get back on topic. Now.

-Moderator Rvenger
 

RussianSensation

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A teaser come from Sapphire and no from AMD makes me tink that isn't a new graphic card. Maybe a new version of 290X with TOXIC brand.

Ya, it's highly doubtful AMD has R9 300 series ready for January but we haven't seen any leaks besides ChipHell's. Usually we get leaks from various sources 2-3 months before launch. Unless AMD has adopted Apple style secrecy, I think 30" series is ways out.
 
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