Child dies trying to stop mom's fight with boyfriend

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PG

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but also: not every woman in abusive relationship chooses to be in one. Often, they are deceived early on, and then can't escape. just a though
That can be true, but I bet it's the minority. Take a look at women like this and you'll see a pattern of abuse that starts at a very young age, probably with her father and continues with boyfriend after boyfriend.


 
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Lola

Originally posted by: PG
but also: not every woman in abusive relationship chooses to be in one. Often, they are deceived early on, and then can't escape. just a though
That can be true, but I bet it's the minority. Take a look at women like this and you'll see a pattern of abuse that starts at a very young age, probably with her father and continues with boyfriend after boyfriend.

You know...i was just watching someone quite close to me in this situation. she was dating someone that was beating her before and then started dating someone else who did the same thing. I hate it when people cry victim. So many times do you hear women saying "....but i love him" and "....he will stop eventually". They CHOOSE to stay in the relationship for whatever reason. Even if they were decieved early on, they have a choice to leave.
 

Nitemare

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The mother's 24-year-old boyfriend was being questioned by investigators but no charges had been filed early Thursday.

WTF is up with that??? You beat on a woman and beat her 6 year old daughter to death and you don't get charges filed?

The girl's 26-year-old mother did not immediately seek help, waiting until 3:30 a.m. to dial 911
WTF is up with that??? It's called butcher knife and one dead drunk. There is no way I would ever allow someone to beat my child to death and live.
 

notfred

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Can someone show me where in the article it says that the boyfriend beat her to death? It may very well have been the mother. You guys jump to conclusions WAY too fast.

Anyway, even if it was the boyfriend who did it, I think the mother shares equal responsibility for it. She's the whore is inviting murderous men into the child's house so she can sleep with them.
 

Sleestak

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Alright, we need to hunt the bastard/bitch down that did this and give them a little ATOT justice. Who's with me?
 

NikPreviousAcct

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I know a girl (middle child) whose older brother attacked his mom with a knife , the youngest of the three children jumped in the way and ended up getting stabbed instead. She died in the hospital that night. The daughter that I know was so heartbroken, obviously. The brother in jail, the sister killed, and her living with a drunken, abusive father and a passive mother who doesn't defend her children to the father.

Sometimes life is a bitch.

I hope the family in the story above will be okay.
 

Pepsei

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Instead of license to have baby... how about just requiring people on welfare to get license to have kids?
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Pepsei
Instead of license to have baby... how about just requiring people on welfare to get license to have kids?

Not a bad idea. Oh wait, they can't pay for food, let alone a license -or a child for that matter.
 
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Originally posted by: notfred
Can someone show me where in the article it says that the boyfriend beat her to death? It may very well have been the mother. You guys jump to conclusions WAY too fast.

Anyway, even if it was the boyfriend who did it, I think the mother shares equal responsibility for it. She's the whore is inviting murderous men into the child's house so she can sleep with them.

Right, the article says no where that the boyfriend did it. It also says the previous complaints were of family members(aka the mother) beating the child. It might have been the boyfriend hit the mom, little girl stepped in, but mom, being angry and probably smaller than the boyfriend went off on the kid.

And for the crack that single parent homes are bad, FU. My mom did a damn good job with me. I have no criminal record. I've only boughten new cars(never used ones), I pay my bills on time, and I'm in a good relationship. So stop basing your assumptions on what you see or heart about in the news.




Alma's mother also had a 1-month-old who was taken into custody by DCFS.
and they should never give it back to her.
 

notfred

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Right, the article says no where that the boyfriend did it. It also says the previous complaints were of family members(aka the mother) beating the child. It might have been the boyfriend hit the mom, little girl stepped in, but mom, being angry and probably smaller than the boyfriend went off on the kid.

And for the crack that single parent homes are bad, FU. My mom did a damn good job with me. I have no criminal record. I've only boughten new cars(never used ones), I pay my bills on time, and I'm in a good relationship. So stop basing your assumptions on what you see or heart about in the news.

This is not about single parent homes. This is about women who repeatedly get pregnant by assholes, have 3 different kids by three different father's by the time they're 25, and every man they hang around is a drunk/drug-using abusive loser with no job. I've seen it a million times. Stupid high school slut gets pregnant. Wants nothing to do with the baby's father. Finds a new loser to leech off of since she has no job and no skills. New loser gets her pregnant again, she leaves him, cycle repeats. One of my berst friends in high school lived in a single parent home. She lived with her dad. He had a $500,000 house, a good job, and he didn't bring home a different drunken whore every weekend and get her pregnant. He is not the type of person I'm talking about.
So, if your mom is a drunken whore who's sleeping with a new guy every 2 weeks, then feel free to be offended by my statement. Otherwise "FU".

Oh, and "boughten"?
 

lowtech1

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Originally posted by: ohtwell
That is horrible! Why did the mother wait so long to call 911?


: ( Amanda

Could it be that she was afraid to call & waited for the bf to go as sleep?

 

ohtwell

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Originally posted by: lowtech
Originally posted by: ohtwell
That is horrible! Why did the mother wait so long to call 911?


: ( Amanda

Could it be that she was afraid to call & waited for the bf to go as sleep?
That is BS. If my daughter was beat by my asshat bf I'd call the cops and he wouldn't be able stop me.


: ) Amanda
 

Luden

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Chicago Sun-Times

Man held in fatal beating of girlfriend's daughter, 6

A 6-year-old girl who got in the middle of a fight between her mother and a boyfriend was beaten to death by the man, police said.

The 26-year-old mother and 24-year-old boyfriend were arguing early Wednesday in a Southwest Side apartment when the little girl, identified as Alma Manjarrez, tried to intervene, officer Thomas Donegan said. Later, around 3:30 a.m., the mother noticed the girl was having difficulty breathing and began to vomit.

Alma was taken to Holy Cross Hospital and later transferred to Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn, where she died at 11:59 a.m. Wednesday. The mother was treated at Cook County Hospital.

The names of the mother and her boyfriend were not released.

The man, who is not the girl's father, was in police custody, and the child's death was being investigated as a homicide.

No charges had been filed as of Wednesday evening.
 

SlowSS

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Originally posted by: ohtwell
Originally posted by: lowtech
Originally posted by: ohtwell
That is horrible! Why did the mother wait so long to call 911?


: ( Amanda

Could it be that she was afraid to call & waited for the bf to go as sleep?
That is BS. If my daughter was lying there dying because my asshat bf beat the crap out of her I'd call the cops and he wouldn't be able stop me.


: ) Amanda

Yup, as I stated earlier, that mother failed horribly protecting her daughter, she should of fought till she died to ensure her six year old daughter is out of harms way from that scumbag.

I know I would do it for my three daughters.

 

ReiAyanami

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sometimes single parent families are better because you dont have to see them fight all the time and then get divorced.
 

ohtwell

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Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
sometimes single parent families are better because you dont have to see them fight all the time and then get divorced.
This was a single parent family!! The boyfriend is the one that beat the child to death.


: ) Amanda
 
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