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Czar

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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they really should do what they experimented on in denmark, they gave repeated sex offenders and option, the entire sentance in jail, no chance of parole or to have all sexual tendencies removed with chemicals and get probation
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: Rogue
I have never been so filled with hatred in my life until I had to view the evidence for a child pornography case today. The attorney needed assistance in locating information on some of the information contained in the pictures, so unfortunately, I had to view the evidence. I could literally kill someone right now because of what I just had to see. Rage is the only word that can begin to explain what I feel at this moment.

Has anyone else had the misfortune of assisting in such a thing? I need some moral support right now.

God no. I hope I never need to either.

There are some sick fvckers out there. They need to be killed.
 

jagec

Lifer
Apr 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: Czar
they really should do what they experimented on in denmark, they gave repeated sex offenders and option, the entire sentance in jail, no chance of parole or to have all sexual tendencies removed with chemicals and get probation

Did it work?
 

SuperTool

Lifer
Jan 25, 2000
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0
Child Porn != Child Molestation.
I'd rather pedophiles get their kicks from porn than getting out there molesting kids.
 

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
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Originally posted by: SuperTool
Child Porn != Child Molestation.
I'd rather pedophiles get their kicks from porn than getting out there molesting kids.

Oh, that is just brilliant.:roll:
 

GTaudiophile

Lifer
Oct 24, 2000
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Originally posted by: SuperTool
Child Porn != Child Molestation.
I'd rather pedophiles get their kicks from porn than getting out there molesting kids.

There is the theory that kiddie pr0n only creates demand for the real thing...
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: SuperTool
Child Porn != Child Molestation.
I'd rather pedophiles get their kicks from porn than getting out there molesting kids.

while in a sense i agree. BUT still takeing pictures of kids nude does still harm them. Some guys get off on the pictures but still want the young kids for real sex and they may fulfill the fantasy.

 

SuperTool

Lifer
Jan 25, 2000
14,000
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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Child Porn != Child Molestation.
I'd rather pedophiles get their kicks from porn than getting out there molesting kids.

There is the theory that kiddie pr0n only creates demand for the real thing...

There is also a "theory" that Marijuana is a gateway drug.
 

GTaudiophile

Lifer
Oct 24, 2000
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Rogue
I have never been so filled with hatred in my life until I had to view the evidence for a child pornography case today. The attorney needed assistance in locating information on some of the information contained in the pictures, so unfortunately, I had to view the evidence. I could literally kill someone right now because of what I just had to see. Rage is the only word that can begin to explain what I feel at this moment.

Has anyone else had the misfortune of assisting in such a thing? I need some moral support right now.

God no. I hope I never need to either.

There are some sick fvckers out there. They need to be killed.

Wow. People were saying the same thing about homosexuals 50 years ago!

Killing and hating is not the answer, or did nobody learn from Jesus or Ghandi or MLK Jr.? Child molesters are sick in the head for some reason, lacking some emotional component. There are other ways to examine the issue, but how can you do that if pedophiles are scared for their freedom, lives, and testicles?
 

godmare

Diamond Member
Sep 25, 2002
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Originally posted by: SuperTool
Child Porn != Child Molestation.
I'd rather pedophiles get their kicks from porn than getting out there molesting kids.

What, do you think the pictures are cg? If nothing else the victims of child molestation are physically depicted in child pornography.
 

GTaudiophile

Lifer
Oct 24, 2000
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Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Child Porn != Child Molestation.
I'd rather pedophiles get their kicks from porn than getting out there molesting kids.

There is the theory that kiddie pr0n only creates demand for the real thing...

There is also a "theory" that Marijuana is a gateway drug.

Same concept IMO.
 

SuperTool

Lifer
Jan 25, 2000
14,000
2
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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Child Porn != Child Molestation.
I'd rather pedophiles get their kicks from porn than getting out there molesting kids.

while in a sense i agree. BUT still takeing pictures of kids nude does still harm them. Some guys get off on the pictures but still want the young kids for real sex and they may fulfill the fantasy.

They should definitely prosecute those who take the pictures, or molest children, but just having photos on your computer should not be getting the punishments that some here are suggesting.
 

yukichigai

Diamond Member
Apr 23, 2003
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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Child Porn != Child Molestation.
I'd rather pedophiles get their kicks from porn than getting out there molesting kids.

There is the theory that kiddie pr0n only creates demand for the real thing...
I think would-be child molestors will eventually molest a child, irrespective of whether or not they find kiddie porn. The porn is merely a symptom.

Of course possession of child porn doesn't necessarily mean you're a child molestor, but from what I understand 95% of the time it's the case. Addictive personalities, escalating acts, blah blah blah....

On a lighter note that may hopefully bring people out of the intense depression this thread is no doubt bringing, try looking at some kitty porn. See? It's cute. And not depraved. (Happy thoughts, happy thoughts)
 

rudder

Lifer
Nov 9, 2000
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Originally posted by: waggy
depends on the kids in the porn under 15? the person should be shot. anything ehlse? shrug hard to say.


odd that they had you do this.

What the hell does it matter if they are under 15? Do you think that maybe some of the participants in this type of porn do it against their will even if they are over 15? There are adult women out there in the world that are forced to be used as sex toys. It doesn't matter what age.
 

SuperTool

Lifer
Jan 25, 2000
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Originally posted by: godmare
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Child Porn != Child Molestation.
I'd rather pedophiles get their kicks from porn than getting out there molesting kids.

What, do you think the pictures are cg? If nothing else the victims of child molestation are physically depicted in child pornography.

Well, did the guy take those pics, or is he molesting those kids in the pics? We shouldn't be encouraging it, but at the same time some punishments suggested here or given in reality are outrageous and a waste of taxpayer money.
 

godmare

Diamond Member
Sep 25, 2002
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Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: godmare
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Child Porn != Child Molestation.
I'd rather pedophiles get their kicks from porn than getting out there molesting kids.

What, do you think the pictures are cg? If nothing else the victims of child molestation are physically depicted in child pornography.

Well, did the guy take those pics, or is he molesting those kids in the pics? We shouldn't be encouraging it, but at the same time some punishments suggested here or given in reality are outrageous and a waste of taxpayer money.

I think that if you had kids (or if you do have kids) you wouldn't want your next door neighbor to be taunted by a hard drive full of child porn.
 

GTaudiophile

Lifer
Oct 24, 2000
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Neil Bortz loves to ask this question of radical-right conservatives who call up, complaining that homosexuals should be burned at the stake. That question is, "At what age did you decide your sexual orientation? What day did you wake up and say, I'm gonna like girls instead of boys?"

No, most people can't answer that question because they just grew up being attracted to this or that. Who is to say pedophiles aren't the same way? That doesn't make their preference right, and yes, acting on those preferences should have its consequences, but who are we to judge whether or not these people have control over their preferences?
 

Czar

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Czar
they really should do what they experimented on in denmark, they gave repeated sex offenders and option, the entire sentance in jail, no chance of parole or to have all sexual tendencies removed with chemicals and get probation

Did it work?

yeah it did actually
 

godmare

Diamond Member
Sep 25, 2002
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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Neil Bortz loves to ask this question of radical-right conservatives who call up, complaining that homosexuals should be burned at the stake. That question is, "At what age did you decide your sexual orientation? What day did you wake up and say, I'm gonna like girls instead of boys?"

No, most people can't answer that question because they just grew up being attracted to this or that. Who is to say pedophiles aren't the same way? That doesn't make their preference right, and yes, acting on those preferences should have its consequences, but who are we to judge whether or not these people have control over their desires?

I'm not sure that's even the question at hand. Psycopaths see no wrong in their violent crime, yet they are punished for their actions.
This is a debate over incarceration versus rehabilitation, and goes beyond the scope of just pedophilia.
 

SuperTool

Lifer
Jan 25, 2000
14,000
2
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Originally posted by: godmare
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: godmare
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Child Porn != Child Molestation.
I'd rather pedophiles get their kicks from porn than getting out there molesting kids.

What, do you think the pictures are cg? If nothing else the victims of child molestation are physically depicted in child pornography.

Well, did the guy take those pics, or is he molesting those kids in the pics? We shouldn't be encouraging it, but at the same time some punishments suggested here or given in reality are outrageous and a waste of taxpayer money.

I think that if you had kids (or if you do have kids) you wouldn't want your next door neighbor to be taunted by a hard drive full of child porn.

So we should throw anyone we don't like as our neighbors in jail and throw away the key?
I still think even having a terrobyte of child porn is nowhere near as bad as molesting a single kid. Not even close, not by a longshot, and should receive punishment proportionate to the crime, not sending people away for life for having some jpgs on their hard drive.
 

yukichigai

Diamond Member
Apr 23, 2003
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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Neil Bortz loves to ask this question of radical-right conservatives who call up, complaining that homosexuals should be burned at the stake. That question is, "At what age did you decide your sexual orientation? What day did you wake up and say, I'm gonna like girls instead of boys?"

No, most people can't answer that question because they just grew up being attracted to this or that. Who is to say pedophiles aren't the same way? That doesn't make their preference right, and yes, acting on those preferences should have its consequences, but who are we to judge whether or not these people have control over their desires?
The going theory is that pedophiles are, in fact, "wired from birth". Alas, there's no medications to suppress those desires.

Hell, I think science holds that pretty much all sexual prefferences are "wired from birth". But that's an entirely different discussion.
 

GTaudiophile

Lifer
Oct 24, 2000
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Originally posted by: yukichigai
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Neil Bortz loves to ask this question of radical-right conservatives who call up, complaining that homosexuals should be burned at the stake. That question is, "At what age did you decide your sexual orientation? What day did you wake up and say, I'm gonna like girls instead of boys?"

No, most people can't answer that question because they just grew up being attracted to this or that. Who is to say pedophiles aren't the same way? That doesn't make their preference right, and yes, acting on those preferences should have its consequences, but who are we to judge whether or not these people have control over their desires?
The going theory is that pedophiles are, in fact, "wired from birth". Alas, there's no medications to suppress those desires.

Hell, I think science holds that pretty much all sexual prefferences are "wired from birth". But that's an entirely different discussion.

No, it's not an entirely different discussion!
 
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