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HN

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Originally posted by: GRIFFIN1
The pro-illegal immigration politics of the movie got on my nerves.

SPOILER *** Since the main character never picked up a gun, I'm going to guess that the movie was also anit-gun. Without thinking too much, I can think of two times where he had a chance to get a gun and he just left them sitting on the ground.
Theo was definitely pro-car battery, though!
I set aside all the storyline stuff and was just thrilled by the action and camerawork; didn't expect all that from the trailers. I think Alfonso Cuaron could pull of a Gears of War movie.
 

TecHNooB

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Sep 10, 2005
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I thought the movie got too involved with the rebels. I wanted more examples of the current government. The part where the main guy (I forgot his name already) was on the train reminded me of HL2. I thought the cinematography was great, but the movie ultimately lacked something. The Prestige kept me on the edge of my seat more than this movie did.
 

Dumac

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Dec 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: Dacalo
Originally posted by: heinz256
I have a question. Do they ever explain why there was so much chaos in almost in the countries and why there were so many refugees going to England and being locked up and stuff? Was it because of how ppl cant reproduce?

No, but I am assuming that people didn't give a crap once they realized they can't reproduce. UK was the only country with some order remaining, so people were flocking to it. Refugees were unwanted because they will "disrupt" the only order left in UK.

EDIT: I found the movie OK, not spectacular or anything. Depressing movie.

Newspapers through out the movie mentioned nuclear fallouts in Africa and America, and you know that all the Asians just flew to other planets to re-enact Starcraft (by the suggestion of the Koreans).
 

bozack

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Jan 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: PokerGuy
I don't get it. People seem to like this flick a lot, and rotten tomatoes gives it a high rating... I watched it this weekend and thought it was anything but exciting or a thriller. It was full of plot holes, improbable/implausible situations, had lackluster acting and generally did nothing to keep me on the edge of my seat. I didn't find myself rooting for the lead to succeed in his quest, I was pretty much disinterested in the outcome.

My guess is the 'critics' just love the whiney pro-illegal-immigrant story line, to me it was just boring.

Shrug, guess to each his own.... I'm just glad I didn't buy it (a friend downloaded it and brought it over).

I didn't like it much either, just seemed a bit silly IMHO.
 

Gunslinger08

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Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: PokerGuy
I don't get it. People seem to like this flick a lot, and rotten tomatoes gives it a high rating... I watched it this weekend and thought it was anything but exciting or a thriller. It was full of plot holes, improbable/implausible situations, had lackluster acting and generally did nothing to keep me on the edge of my seat. I didn't find myself rooting for the lead to succeed in his quest, I was pretty much disinterested in the outcome.

My guess is the 'critics' just love the whiney pro-illegal-immigrant story line, to me it was just boring.

Shrug, guess to each his own.... I'm just glad I didn't buy it (a friend downloaded it and brought it over).

I agree. Pretty much a waste of 2 hours.
 

jpeyton

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Same here; thought it was an excellent movie.

That's why we have a broad spectrum of reviews available online. It gives you a good cross section of the public opinion on something.

For this movie (both reflected in critical reviews as well as posts in this thread), the reviews are overwhelmingly favorable, thus warranting a viewing.

If you only want to watch 10/10 "perfect" movies, you might see one or two on a good year. 9/10 movies like this are still amazing.
 

Jmman

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Dec 17, 1999
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Just watched it tonight and it was all right, but not spectacular....meh.....
 

yobarman

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Jan 11, 2001
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Saw it last night and I was looking forward to it. Unfortunately it wasn't that good for me. On a scale of 1-10, i'd give it a 6. The whole time I was expecting why all that stuff was going down, but it was just an action movie with an incomprehensible storyline.
 

BigJelly

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Mar 7, 2002
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Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: PokerGuy
I don't get it. People seem to like this flick a lot, and rotten tomatoes gives it a high rating... I watched it this weekend and thought it was anything but exciting or a thriller. It was full of plot holes, improbable/implausible situations, had lackluster acting and generally did nothing to keep me on the edge of my seat. I didn't find myself rooting for the lead to succeed in his quest, I was pretty much disinterested in the outcome.

My guess is the 'critics' just love the whiney pro-illegal-immigrant story line, to me it was just boring.

Shrug, guess to each his own.... I'm just glad I didn't buy it (a friend downloaded it and brought it over).

I agree. Pretty much a waste of 2 hours.

With my 300+ movie collection, this will not be one of them.

Just didn't live up to the hype. No real plot, didn't care about the characters, and didn't like the politics that movie tries to push.
 

kaymin

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Jul 21, 2001
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I didn't like it at all either. The annoying wobbly camera just made it seem more like the low budget movie it was. The humor was a bit weird also with the flying pig balloon. I guess people enjoyed the 'novelty.'
 

paulxcook

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I just saw this last night. 6/10. I thought this could've been a great movie, as the premise was a great starting point.

The story took a huge plunge once they got to "fugeeville" or whatever stupid name they used. The end scene was stupidly rushed. I've seen plenty of good ideas that were just too difficult to end, but this one shouldn't have been that hard, especially since they had a book to work from. I didn't read the book, maybe it had a poor ending too.

edit: also, much of the time I felt like I was watching a HL2 cutscene, a lot of the cinematography, locales, and props felt like it.
 

CptObvious

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Mar 5, 2004
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My favorite movie of last year. I thought the ending was great. Too many movies nowadays drag on after the final resolution of the plot, like the director can't let go of the story. The ending on this one was unexpected and blunt, fitting with the violence in the movie, and left it to the imagination of the viewer, which I liked.
 

Double Trouble

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: jpeyton
If you only want to watch 10/10 "perfect" movies, you might see one or two on a good year. 9/10 movies like this are still amazing.
I saw the movie and thought it was terrible. Forget 10/10 or 9/10, I'd give it more like a 3 out of 10 or 4 out of 10. Complete waste of time.

 

randomint

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the worst ending possible! it should have continued on for at least as long as it did before it ended. most abrupt/unfilling ending ever.

liked the movie though.
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: heinz256
I have a question. Do they ever explain why there was so much chaos in almost in the countries and why there were so many refugees going to England and being locked up and stuff? Was it because of how ppl cant reproduce?

I don't understand why other people say this movie is "pro illegal immigration". All other countries were overrun by refugees from collapsing nations around the world. England's brutal anti-immigration policies and the fact that it is an island were the only thing keeping it from being totally overrun as well. If anything its stance was pretty measured on that topic, but I thought the picture it painted was that england was given a difficult choice to make, to either turn its back on others in order to survive or to take them in, knowing their numbers were just swallow them up as well.

To answer your question though, people wanted into England because it was the only nation that wasn't a sh|t hole. And the only reason it wasn't a sh|t hole is because it didn't people in.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Does this have some thinly veiled anti-religeon or anti-Bush sentiment? Cause the way you guys rave about it I'm guessing it must.

Pro-illegal immigrant.

Quite frankly, I thought it was alright. Overrated though. I could have just watched "28 Days Later" all over again, the 2 movies were so similar in style. The cinematography had that same almost annoying style and the suspension of belief factor was similarly difficult due to the plot holes and ordinary people in over-the-top action against unspeakable evil factor.

What was cool about the movie IMO though (and unfortunately not as well developed as it could have been) was the children bring peace and love to the world theme. Without children, the world devolved into pure hate and ugly violence with no hope for the future. The what's the point 100 years from now this will all be gone. I really felt the movie could have been better if it had dropped a lot of its shock factor and gone deeper into this.
 

torpid

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Sep 14, 2003
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The rebels weren't all portrayed in a negative light. It was a select few, but those few went so far as to kill off their leader in order to take an extremist position. I don't think the fish were just about immigrant rights. I think it was just as much about the hoarding of wealth by the elite (e.g. danny houston's character).

HeroOfPellinor, it did have some parallels to current politics, but it was a bit more even handed and nowhere near as over the top as V for Vendetta as far as dystopian films involving rebel groups go.

Anyway, also unlike V, the action scenes were by far the best aspect of the film. Some of the long tracking shots and overall set designs were incredible. Without the intense action, this movie would not have been quite as good. The cinematography was also excellent.

I wouldn't say there wer major plot holes, but there was a very thin plot. Not much really happened in the movie. And there wasn't a lot of exposition. Many of the scenes were just us witnessing something and no one commenting on it. I really liked that. Another filmmaker would have had some annoying person giving exposition about everything we saw at all times. This film kept the exposition to somewhat of a minimum.
 

EKKC

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May 31, 2005
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i liked the movie while the gf said it was boring
i loved the battle scene, it was shot in one rolling scene! awesome
 

RaiderJ

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Apr 29, 2001
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Originally posted by: PokerGuy
I don't get it. People seem to like this flick a lot, and rotten tomatoes gives it a high rating... I watched it this weekend and thought it was anything but exciting or a thriller. It was full of plot holes, improbable/implausible situations, had lackluster acting and generally did nothing to keep me on the edge of my seat. I didn't find myself rooting for the lead to succeed in his quest, I was pretty much disinterested in the outcome.

My guess is the 'critics' just love the whiney pro-illegal-immigrant story line, to me it was just boring.

Shrug, guess to each his own.... I'm just glad I didn't buy it (a friend downloaded it and brought it over).

My thoughts too. Didn't seem to make sense, although I did like the atmosphere
 

EKKC

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May 31, 2005
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i liked the movie while the gf said it was boring
i loved the battle scene, it was shot in one rolling scene! awesome
 

yllus

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Aug 20, 2000
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Well-shot, and touched on some interesting themes, but only just touched them. 7/10 mostly for what it could have been.
 
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