China: America's new banker

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China's $1.2 trillion cash hoard

With $1.2 trillion in reserves, most of it in dollar-backed assets, China plans to launch the world's largest investment fund. It could play havoc with the U.S. economy.

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By Clay Chandler, Fortune senior writer
May 1 2007: 1:04 PM EDT

(Fortune Magazine) -- China, Long recognized as the world's factory, is earning a new distinction: America's banker. As it continues to suck in foreign investment and crank out exports, the world's fastest-growing economy is piling up foreign currency, mostly dollars, at an astonishing rate.

In April, China's central bank stunned economists with the disclosure that, in the first three months of the year, China had added $136 billion to its official foreign-currency reserves, more than double the increase in the previous quarter. The influx boosted China's foreign reserves to $1.2 trillion - an Everest of money that towers over reserves held by any other nation.

Beijing's burgeoning foreign-cash pile is a consequence of its effort to boost exports by fixing the value of its currency, the yuan, to the U.S. dollar. To keep the yuan from appreciating too quickly, the central bank buys up dollars brought to China by foreign investors and Chinese exporters. Then the bank issues bonds to mop up the yuan it has paid for those dollars, thus warding off inflation.

It's a complicated arrangement, made more so as the sums in question soar. By any sensible measure, Beijing's stash is excessive. James McCormack, an analyst at Fitch Ratings, the credit agency, calculates that at the end of 2006, China held reserves worth nearly nine times its short-term debt, or 14 months of imports. China's reserves exceed even the most dire estimates of bad loans held by the nation's banks.

But managing this hoard is a growing headache. In Internet chatrooms, Chinese have begun asking why Beijing can't use the money to build schools and hospitals rather than to prop up the U.S. dollar. Policymakers, meanwhile, fret that the reserves are earning poor returns.

In March, Finance Minister Jin Renqing announced plans to launch a new investment fund charged with managing the reserves in a more profitable and efficient manner. The fund is to be led by Lou Jiwei, a respected former finance vice minister. But nearly everything else about it - including how much money it will control and where it will invest - remains a mystery.

Word of the fund provoked consternation in financial markets. "There's a new fin in the water, and no one knows whether it's a great white, a [harmless] basking, or [some other] species of shark," wrote Standard Chartered Bank economist Stephen Green in a note to clients. China's new fund "will be huge, and it could move markets, blowing up well-thought-out trades with the touch of a bureaucrat's button."

Where will the money go?

Chinese press reports suggest that the fund will be modeled on Temasek, the Singaporean government's investment arm, and entrusted with as much as $300 billion. That's three times the size of Temasek and ten times larger than the world's largest hedge fund. With that much under management, the fund could buy up Wal-Mart (Charts, Fortune 500) and have enough left over to pick up General Motors (Charts, Fortune 500) and Ford (Charts, Fortune 500).

Many analysts expect that the new fund will look for ways to lighten China's holdings of dollar-denominated assets, particularly low-yielding U.S. Treasury bonds. At the end of 2006, China held $350 billion worth of T-bills. Fitch estimates that China holds another $230 billion in bonds from government-backed agencies such as Freddie Mac (Charts, Fortune 500) and Fannie Mae (Charts).

Others predict the fund will bankroll efforts of state-owned resource giants like Sinopec or CNOOC to secure oil, gas, coal and other raw materials abroad. But Arthur Kroeber, editor of the China Economic Quarterly, argues that Beijing will find it difficult to achieve either goal. Few assets offer the depth and liquidity of T-bills. And any effort to finance acquisitions by Chinese companies risks igniting the sort of controversy that scuttled CNOOC's bid for Unocal. "As a practical matter," warns Kroeber, "a state-controlled fund of this size will face problems nearly every way it turns."

Some U.S. lawmakers have expressed concern that China might exploit its status as a major buyer of U.S. Treasury bonds to gain leverage in trade or foreign-policy disputes. But China itself would suffer from any redeployment of reserves that might undercut growth in the U.S., its No. 1 consumer. At his annual press conference in March, Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao acknowledged the immense foreign reserves as a "new problem for us." But he went out of his way to assert that the new fund's first principle would be to do no harm. "China's formation of an investment company for its foreign-exchange reserves will not affect U.S.-dollar assets," he said.

In a recent letter to Senator Richard Shelby (R-Alabama), U.S. Fed chairman Ben Bernanke said much the same thing, arguing that Beijing couldn't damage the U.S. economy by selling bonds or boycotting Treasury auctions because "foreign holdings of U.S. Treasury securities represent only a small part of total U.S. credit-market debt outstanding." Bernanke also said that the Fed could adjust interest rates.

Even so, China's dollar mountain seems sure to grow if exports maintain their recent pace. China's global trade surplus jumped $46 billion in the first quarter; its surplus with the U.S. topped $232 billion in 2006.

The fuss about China's reserves could blow over if, as UBS economist Jonathan Anderson predicts, higher wages, rising inflation and gradual appreciation of the yuan curb export growth. But that's a minority view. Standard Chartered's Green sees continued trade surpluses and expects China's foreign-currency holdings to grow at a rate of about $20 billion a month. Credit Suisse economist Tong Dao says China's foreign reserves could top $2 trillion by the end of next year.

Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson will have a chance to ask how much longer Chinese leaders think this wad of dollars can keep growing when he welcomes a delegation led by Vice Premier Wu Yi to Washington, D.C., in May. For now, however, perhaps the sign on his desk should bear a modern alternative to Harry Truman's favorite motto: The buck stops ... in Beijing.


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Originally posted by: SONYFX
China's $1.2 trillion cash hoard

With $1.2 trillion in reserves, most of it in dollar-backed assets, China plans to launch the world's largest investment fund. It could play havoc with the U.S. economy.

-------------------------------------------------
By Clay Chandler, Fortune senior writer
May 1 2007: 1:04 PM EDT

(Fortune Magazine) -- China, Long recognized as the world's factory, is earning a new distinction: America's banker. As it continues to suck in foreign investment and crank out exports, the world's fastest-growing economy is piling up foreign currency, mostly dollars, at an astonishing rate.

In April, China's central bank stunned economists with the disclosure that, in the first three months of the year, China had added $136 billion to its official foreign-currency reserves, more than double the increase in the previous quarter. The influx boosted China's foreign reserves to $1.2 trillion - an Everest of money that towers over reserves held by any other nation.

Beijing's burgeoning foreign-cash pile is a consequence of its effort to boost exports by fixing the value of its currency, the yuan, to the U.S. dollar. To keep the yuan from appreciating too quickly, the central bank buys up dollars brought to China by foreign investors and Chinese exporters. Then the bank issues bonds to mop up the yuan it has paid for those dollars, thus warding off inflation.

It's a complicated arrangement, made more so as the sums in question soar. By any sensible measure, Beijing's stash is excessive. James McCormack, an analyst at Fitch Ratings, the credit agency, calculates that at the end of 2006, China held reserves worth nearly nine times its short-term debt, or 14 months of imports. China's reserves exceed even the most dire estimates of bad loans held by the nation's banks.

But managing this hoard is a growing headache. In Internet chatrooms, Chinese have begun asking why Beijing can't use the money to build schools and hospitals rather than to prop up the U.S. dollar. Policymakers, meanwhile, fret that the reserves are earning poor returns.

In March, Finance Minister Jin Renqing announced plans to launch a new investment fund charged with managing the reserves in a more profitable and efficient manner. The fund is to be led by Lou Jiwei, a respected former finance vice minister. But nearly everything else about it - including how much money it will control and where it will invest - remains a mystery.

Word of the fund provoked consternation in financial markets. "There's a new fin in the water, and no one knows whether it's a great white, a [harmless] basking, or [some other] species of shark," wrote Standard Chartered Bank economist Stephen Green in a note to clients. China's new fund "will be huge, and it could move markets, blowing up well-thought-out trades with the touch of a bureaucrat's button."

Where will the money go?

Chinese press reports suggest that the fund will be modeled on Temasek, the Singaporean government's investment arm, and entrusted with as much as $300 billion. That's three times the size of Temasek and ten times larger than the world's largest hedge fund. With that much under management, the fund could buy up Wal-Mart (Charts, Fortune 500) and have enough left over to pick up General Motors (Charts, Fortune 500) and Ford (Charts, Fortune 500).

Many analysts expect that the new fund will look for ways to lighten China's holdings of dollar-denominated assets, particularly low-yielding U.S. Treasury bonds. At the end of 2006, China held $350 billion worth of T-bills. Fitch estimates that China holds another $230 billion in bonds from government-backed agencies such as Freddie Mac (Charts, Fortune 500) and Fannie Mae (Charts).

Others predict the fund will bankroll efforts of state-owned resource giants like Sinopec or CNOOC to secure oil, gas, coal and other raw materials abroad. But Arthur Kroeber, editor of the China Economic Quarterly, argues that Beijing will find it difficult to achieve either goal. Few assets offer the depth and liquidity of T-bills. And any effort to finance acquisitions by Chinese companies risks igniting the sort of controversy that scuttled CNOOC's bid for Unocal. "As a practical matter," warns Kroeber, "a state-controlled fund of this size will face problems nearly every way it turns."

Some U.S. lawmakers have expressed concern that China might exploit its status as a major buyer of U.S. Treasury bonds to gain leverage in trade or foreign-policy disputes. But China itself would suffer from any redeployment of reserves that might undercut growth in the U.S., its No. 1 consumer. At his annual press conference in March, Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao acknowledged the immense foreign reserves as a "new problem for us." But he went out of his way to assert that the new fund's first principle would be to do no harm. "China's formation of an investment company for its foreign-exchange reserves will not affect U.S.-dollar assets," he said.

In a recent letter to Senator Richard Shelby (R-Alabama), U.S. Fed chairman Ben Bernanke said much the same thing, arguing that Beijing couldn't damage the U.S. economy by selling bonds or boycotting Treasury auctions because "foreign holdings of U.S. Treasury securities represent only a small part of total U.S. credit-market debt outstanding." Bernanke also said that the Fed could adjust interest rates.

Even so, China's dollar mountain seems sure to grow if exports maintain their recent pace. China's global trade surplus jumped $46 billion in the first quarter; its surplus with the U.S. topped $232 billion in 2006.

The fuss about China's reserves could blow over if, as UBS economist Jonathan Anderson predicts, higher wages, rising inflation and gradual appreciation of the yuan curb export growth. But that's a minority view. Standard Chartered's Green sees continued trade surpluses and expects China's foreign-currency holdings to grow at a rate of about $20 billion a month. Credit Suisse economist Tong Dao says China's foreign reserves could top $2 trillion by the end of next year.

Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson will have a chance to ask how much longer Chinese leaders think this wad of dollars can keep growing when he welcomes a delegation led by Vice Premier Wu Yi to Washington, D.C., in May. For now, however, perhaps the sign on his desk should bear a modern alternative to Harry Truman's favorite motto: The buck stops ... in Beijing.


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China is playing a very difficult game. They are attempting to manage their economy into the 21st century, and into capitalism, without imploding like Russia did. So far they are doing well but we don't know the full picture.

What is apparent is that this isn't a doom and gloom scenario. China needs the US to be healthy. It won't do anything to threaten its economic stability by undermining one of its most important trading partners, the party knows where its bread is buttered.

That being said, China's real problem is the billion or so people being left behind in its own country that are causing it real issues. From runaway deaths from AIDS and even SARS to just plain dislike of the ruling government these people will assert even more influence over policy in China. The government will have to start spending loads of money one day to keep the peace within its own borders.

What will be really interesting is how China acts after the Olympics. That will tell the world what their real goals are.
 

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Holding paper when they need us to produce the paper.

China may not want to cripple their economy by causing ripples in ours.
 

piasabird

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China needs all that money so they can buy enough weapons to take over all of Asia and Europe.

I think it is more important to watch how China is spending its money.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Holding paper when they need us to produce the paper.

China may not want to cripple their economy by causing ripples in ours.

My guess is China will put its money to work where it will earn the greatest returns . . . basically any place other than the USA or Old Europe.

They do have a great racket though:
1) Entice foreign multinationals to build state-of-the-art manufacturing facilities in China BUT require some degree of technology transfer.

2) Take said technology and build 'marginally free market' industries domestically.


If they learn how to poach top CEOs from Japan or Korea (or India) to run Chinese companies . . . wow!
 

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Holding paper when they need us to produce the paper.

China may not want to cripple their economy by causing ripples in ours.

My guess is China will put its money to work where it will earn the greatest returns . . . basically any place other than the USA or Old Europe.

They do have a great racket though:
1) Entice foreign multinationals to build state-of-the-art manufacturing facilities in China BUT require some degree of technology transfer.

2) Take said technology and build 'marginally free market' industries domestically.


If they learn how to poach top CEOs from Japan or Korea (or India) to run Chinese companies . . . wow!

India - possibly.
I do not think that their ethnic makeup will allow Korean or Japanese leadership.

 

ProfJohn

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Vanguard investments controls nearly $1.2 trillion in mutual fund assets by itself.
The countries 5 most valuable companies are worth more than $1.2 trillion combined.

In other words, $1.2 trillion is not that much money in the big scheme of things.
Some how I don?t think this Chinese thing is going to a problem.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Holding paper when they need us to produce the paper.

China may not want to cripple their economy by causing ripples in ours.

My guess is China will put its money to work where it will earn the greatest returns . . . basically any place other than the USA or Old Europe.

They do have a great racket though:
1) Entice foreign multinationals to build state-of-the-art manufacturing facilities in China BUT require some degree of technology transfer.

2) Take said technology and build 'marginally free market' industries domestically.


If they learn how to poach top CEOs from Japan or Korea (or India) to run Chinese companies . . . wow!

India - possibly.
I do not think that their ethnic makeup will allow Korean or Japanese leadership.

The Chinese do have their issues with Japan but relations with South Korea aren't that bad. Chinese leadership can be rigid but they are not stupid. Their space program is a source of national pride so there's virtually no way they would ever turn it over to a non-Chinese. The top managers in their investment fund (or other state-managed corporations) could operate in relative anonymity. If things turn out well, you kick the farang, kon jeen, kon yee-bpun, or kairk to the curb, promote the Chinese executive VP and give him credit. If things turn out poorly, you kick the foreigner to the curb . . . if he's lucky.

It probably is unlikely that they would allow a Japanese to run a major company in China. But again the Chinese aren't stupid. They are currently satisfied with GM, VW, and Ford on the mainland but I'm pretty sure they've noticed who makes good cars and great profits. I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese government has not sent thousands to work for Toyota or Honda in Europe or North America.
 

glenn1

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This is the exact same Chicken Little style panic as from 20 years ago that implied that Japan was going to own us, and you see how well that worked out. It was rope-a-dope then and it'll be rope-a-dope this time too, only with natural resources (energy, metals, etc) rather than real estate being the asset which brings down their entire house of cards. And just like 20 years ago, the U.S. will hardly burp as things implode across the pond.
 

Wreckem

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China and the US are tied together. If the economy of one tanks, so too will the others.

 

LegendKiller

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It's a foregone conclusion that they're going to influence our banking system through this debt. Just the mere threat that they'd stop purchasing rolled paper will cause a liquidity crisis for the country.

We have effectively allowed them risk-free financing for all of their military purchases by lending us money. Our spending binge in areas of our government has resulted in nothing but the financing of a potential enemy.

Not to mention the ability that they now have to drastically effect the capital markets.
 

Finality

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Temasek is not the worlds biggest fund ADIA is holding in excess of $500 Billion of assets by some reports its actually close to $1 Trillion.

There is also the Norwegian govt fund which is bigger than Temasek, last I checked it was $300 Billion & Temasek was around $200 Billion. Temasek modeled a lot of what it does on ADIA, though they have become more agressive as of late and not simply a fund buyer like ADIA.

But yeah it would be interesting to see what China does with all its reserves. Be nice to be one of those Hedge fund managers who get a slice of the pie No way China can manage this much cash by themselves at least 90% would be deployed to hedgefunds. I'm guessing they would start to control more of that once they get a proper framework in place and get competent staff. No way China is dumb enough to let some rookie manage a couple of Billion.
 
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