closer to the truth when compared to what we get from our "free press" which is basically the PR arm of the US.gov.
So the locals don’t worship freely by your own admission.if you knew anything about christian churches in china, you would know that the locals adhere to different regulations than foreigners who worship freely.
when was your last visit to the PRC? how long was the stay? which churches did you attend?I am Taiwanese. I think I am a bit more aware of PRC than youtubers.
relative to foreigners, correct, there are more restrictions.So the locals don’t worship freely by your own admission.
LoL I would never set foot in PRC.when was your last visit to the PRC? how long was the stay? which churches did you attend?
you have it backwards. the "democracies" are doing a fine job at destabilizing the world.What's happening is that the Sino-Russo bots are really just scouring the internet for bullet-point devisive topics. They find old threads form forums like this, they know the conversation will get animated and draw out sides, yet again, and they just keep poking the bear.
It's all part of the same strategy that's being recycled again and again...certainly from, I wanna say, 200304ish on, but very visible during the post-Recession rightwing movements seen throughout the world, c. 2015 until this day.
The plan is dividing the worlds democracies by destabilizing the public order as much as possible. You used to have these clowns show up at public houses and meetings to do the same sort of thing--the internet and discussion groups has really made their jobs easier, cheaper, and vastly more effective because not only is all of this so easily accessible, but as time goes on, more and more of us are willing to just dismiss the hard-won skills of critical thinking and hand our brains over to what the unwashed and unread masses of the internet are saying, so long as it confirms all the biases we already hold. It's one thing to watch a couple of idiots preach about a dumb thing on the street corner; but thousands of idiots saying the dumb shit on the internet? well, that's so many people! It must be true!
gotcha, so you have no firsthand experience but you are more aware than someone that has lived there for an extended period. makes total sense.LoL I would never set foot in PRC.
I value my life.
So how long have you lived in China?when was your last visit to the PRC? how long was the stay? which churches did you attend?
over the course of the past 8 years, several months in aggregate. covid did put a damper on additional planned visits but I have another trip planned for EoY.So how long have you lived in China?
gotcha, so you have no firsthand experience but you are more aware than someone that has lived there for an extended period. makes total sense.
Wow. Several months over 8 years…you could almost call that several vacations over 8 years. Guess it’s less than 6 mos…you’d have said as much if it were. So less than a month a year over the last 8 years. Vacations, as I said.over the course of the past 8 years, several months in aggregate. covid did put a damper on additional planned visits but I have another trip planned for EoY.
uhh, I'm in the US.Umm, you obviously don't know how close Taiwan watches PRC. The reverse is also true, except the CPC doesn't show the info they get to its people, cuz that is how revolution happens. Tell me, is 8964 ok for you? Will the public safety officers be inviting you in for a chat? Why are you breaking Chinese law by using VPN?
my wife has 25+ years of experience there as well.Wow. Several months over 8 years…you could almost call that several vacations over 8 years. Guess it’s less than 6 mos…you’d have said as much if it were. So less than a month a year over the last 8 years. Vacations, as I said.
Hard to figure out any society like China in a few months scattered across a decade.
LoL China carriers are all hooked up to public security. Just because you don't know doesn't mean you are not being warched.uhh, I'm in the US.
and foreigners (locals do as well if they care to) use VPN in china all day long. personally, I just turn on roaming since the ISP's will pass me through, bypassing the firewall.
you need to "watch" the PRC a bit more closely since you didn't already know this.
don't know what? you act as if I care. I have nothing to hide.LoL China carriers are all hooked up to public security. Just because you don't know doesn'tem you are not being warched.
But hey, if you love the commies, perhaps you should move there.
As long as public safety is embedded in the vpn service office, it is allowed. Hell they stop people on the street and spot check if you got undesirable apps like vpn on your phone.don't know what? you act as if I care. I have nothing to hide.
you clearly don't know anything about the law because using a VPN in china is not a crime.
lmao, like that's supposed to elicit some response from me?Umm, you obviously don't know how close Taiwan watches PRC. The reverse is also true, except the CPC doesn't show the info they get to its people, cuz that is how revolution happens. Tell me, is 8964 ok for you? Will the public safety officers be inviting you in for a chat? Why are you breaking Chinese law by using VPN?
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lmao, like that's supposed to elicit some response from me?
what's the insinuation here? that tankman was run over by the tanks?
I don't think you're following along. I have nothing to hide, I don't care if they snoop. just like I don't care when the NYC cops stop and frisk me when I enter the subway (I actually care more about this because it actually inconveniences me).As long as public safety is embedded in the vpn service office, it is allowed. Hell they stop people on the street and spot check if you got undesirable apps like vpn on your phone.
They can scrub a story from all social media platforms and you think they don't know what you are doing?
Why exactly are you white knighting for PRC? Xi Jinping got his name enshrined in the PRC constitution, he is worse than Mao!
if debunking deliberate lies is "white knighting", then I'm guilty as charged.
the US is engaged in a smear campaign in China, Russia, Iran. we've seen them use the same playbook to bring us to war in Vietnam and Iraq, but yet idiots keep falling for the same ish over and over again.
LoL they have party office in every single religious temple. They praise the party before doing their own prayers/chants. And these are videos leaked from PRC, filmed by locals.
if you knew anything about christian churches in china, you would know that the locals adhere to different regulations than foreigners who worship freely.
So the locals don’t worship freely by your own admission.
relative to foreigners, correct, there are more restrictions.
I don't think you're following along. I have nothing to hide, I don't care if they snoop. just like I don't care when the NYC cops stop and frisk me when I enter the subway (I actually care more about this because it actually inconveniences me).
regardless, if I have to sacrifice some privacy for an orderly, safe society, then I'm all for it. it's not like the NSA isn't already snooping on me here in the US, with the difference that US cities are homeless, crime ridden cities.
if debunking deliberate lies is "white knighting", then I'm guilty as charged.
the US is engaged in a smear campaign in China, Russia, Iran. we've seen them use the same playbook to bring us to war in Vietnam and Iraq, but yet idiots keep falling for the same ish over and over again.
that's exactly what I did which led me down a rabbit hole and discovering that there weren't any eye witness accounts of students killed in TS.You should try to find out about Tank Man while in China and see how fast Public Security knocks on your door. Chinese millenials don't know about Tienanmen Square massacre, that is how thoroughly they scrubbed the story in PRC. Or is that a Western media conspiracy?
China still occupies Tibet, even installed their own Dalai Lama.
the fact that you don't know how embedded the US.gov is in the media is telling. but it's understandable, I didn't know until I was red-pilled either and I wouldn't expect a non US native to know if I didn't.You think US Media is working for the US government? They are working for shareholder value. What is the deliberate lies you are debuking exactly?