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nexus5rocks

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Right. Of course. It's all a Western conspiracy. Carry on then.
yup, everything is a conspiracy. that's why they want whistleblowers like assange and snowden dead.
news flash, they don't attack those that tell lies (all of congress would be guilty). they only go after the people that reveal the inconvenient truths of our republic.
 

brycejones

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that's exactly what I did which led me down a rabbit hole and discovering that there weren't any eye witness accounts of students killed in TS.
the deaths on both civilian and military sides were in a nearby clash, not at TS.

and the belief that I had my entire life that tankman was flattened by a tank, as what the media footage wants you to conclude, was debunked.
in fact, if tankman tried to do what he did in this video to US military personnel, you can be sure that his body would look like swiss cheese in no time.

If you thought tank man was flattened by a tank then you have always been a fucking moron. Good god.

The coverage at the time was he stopped the column at that time. Not one media outlet reported he was flattened by the tank nor was that impression given.
 

nexus5rocks

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This post would be funny if it wasn’t so sad. @Perknose are we sure this account hasn’t been compromised? Because this is some straight up foreign propaganda.
americans are the most propagandized people in the world. I should know, I am one.
there's a reason the rest of the world is in solidarity with palestine and even hamas. it's because they know the atrocities started long before Oct 7.
 
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nexus5rocks

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If you thought tank man was flattened by a tank then you have always been a fucking moron. Good god.

The coverage at the time was he stopped the column at that time. Not one media outlet reported he was flattened by the tank nor was that impression given.
right, so that's why they never bothered showing the rest of the video. we know what they were trying to portray. don't be naive.
 

sdifox

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right, so that's why they never bothered showing the rest of the video. we know what they were trying to portray. don't be naive.


I saw the coverage live on tv ok. I remember. The point is he disappeared completely without trace afterwards.
 
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brycejones

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right, so that's why they never bothered showing the rest of the video. we know what they were trying to portray. don't be naive.
LIke I said you're a moron. Fuck the rest of us are dumber for having read that you spent your life thinking tank man was run over.

The fact that he wasn't run over is one example of why the chinese government brought in different military units and committed the massacre. That scared the shit out of them and demonstrated their legitimacy and ability to control the country may be at risk.


That you're here arguing that the PRC, Russia, and Iran are pillars of freedom and truth and western media is lying is just mind bogglingly divorced from actual reality. Like seriously how did you get this fucking dumb? Do you have a lead cocktail each day? You're like Marjorie Taylor Greene level stupid, except she actually has a clue about the true nature of the Chinese government. So in some weird way you manage to be even dumber than her?

So were you even alive in 1989?
 

brycejones

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americans are the most propagandized people in the world. I should know, I am one.
there's a reason the rest of the world is in solidarity with palestine and even hamas. it's because they know the atrocities started long before Oct 7.
I'm curious have you missed the frustration this very forum with US policy in regards to Gaza? Why don't you tell us what media sources you consume?
 

[DHT]Osiris

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right, so that's why they never bothered showing the rest of the video. we know what they were trying to portray. don't be naive.
The point of the image and video isn't to show the oppression of the Chinese government, that can be known without the image. The point is to show that even the individual can stand against fascism, even in a non violent way.

The video of the incident is easy to find by just googling it, any layman can see the man eventually walk away. Yes, he was likely 'disappeared' shortly after. Yes, many many students were killed shortly after, and power washed down the drain of history. You can deny reality if you like, nobody will care.
 

Stokely

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You really don't know China then.

Sadly, I can somewhat vouch for that. My wife is Chinese, her family is still mostly there, and many of her friends that I also have met over the years are from there.

Almost all of them keep watching Chinese media and haven't learned English (or Spanish) in 20-30 years here....which is up to them, it's definitely a handicap but whatever. My wife has had to go translate for them numerous times at hospitals, doc offices, schools etc. The point it, the horseshit they believe politically is bonkers, because guess where they get it from. It's really, really hard to throw any stones considering the utter shit that so many fox-watching people think here....but let's just say that ignorance is in no shortage in more than one place.
 

cytg111

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I don't think you're following along. I have nothing to hide, I don't care if they snoop. just like I don't care when the NYC cops stop and frisk me when I enter the subway (I actually care more about this because it actually inconveniences me).
regardless, if I have to sacrifice some privacy for an orderly, safe society, then I'm all for it. it's not like the NSA isn't already snooping on me here in the US, with the difference that US cities are homeless, crime ridden cities.

if debunking deliberate lies is "white knighting", then I'm guilty as charged.
the US is engaged in a smear campaign in China, Russia, Iran. we've seen them use the same playbook to bring us to war in Vietnam and Iraq, but yet idiots keep falling for the same ish over and over again.
At least tell me the sex is good.
 

Roger Wilco

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@nexus5rocks

Do you still believe that Chinese people have better genetic intelligence than Russians?

 

Stokely

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LOL at "genetic intelligence"...or rather, any fuckhead that subscribes to that idea can get in a minecart with the Nazis and plunge off a cliff into lava.

What the Chinese do have is day-long schooling with any remaining hours taken by homework. Massive amounts of rote memorization and great amounts of stress over the standardized tests they have to take at the end of regular school.

Sure, that'll get you high marks on test results. Are test results meaningful? Do they translate into life success, or happiness? Lots of people think so. I have my own ideas about work/life balance and let's just say my wife and I (she grew up in that system as I mentioned) differ in that regard Not to say I think our school system is any great shakes. It's just worse in different areas.

I know that when I've been involved in hiring people for my work I couldn't give less of a shit about how many certifications they have, or hell even what their major was in college, or even if they went to college. What matters is if they can do the work, how good are they at learning, have they dealt with any tight "emergency" situations in past jobs and how they handled that, and also how they might work within a team environment (these things of course are very hard to find out in a couple interviews....)
 

nexus5rocks

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I saw the coverage live on tv ok. I remember. The point is he disappeared completely without trace afterwards.
Yes, the point of them showing the live coverage of him standing defiantly in front of a tank, then conveniently cutting away to not show how he climbs the tank to talk to the soldier piloting the tank, then is safely whisked away by other civilians, is that we will be able to predict his supposed "disappearance without a trace" years later.
makes complete sense to me now. no other ulterior motives. yep.
 

brycejones

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Yes, the point of them showing the live coverage of him standing defiantly in front of a tank, then conveniently cutting away to not show how he climbs the tank to talk to the soldier piloting the tank, then is safely whisked away by other civilians, is that we will be able to predict his supposed "disappearance without a trace" years later.
makes complete sense to me now. no other ulterior motives. yep.
It's funny how your story keeps changing. LOL
 
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nexus5rocks

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LIke I said you're a moron. Fuck the rest of us are dumber for having read that you spent your life thinking tank man was run over.

The fact that he wasn't run over is one example of why the chinese government brought in different military units and committed the massacre. That scared the shit out of them and demonstrated their legitimacy and ability to control the country may be at risk.


That you're here arguing that the PRC, Russia, and Iran are pillars of freedom and truth and western media is lying is just mind bogglingly divorced from actual reality. Like seriously how did you get this fucking dumb? Do you have a lead cocktail each day? You're like Marjorie Taylor Greene level stupid, except she actually has a clue about the true nature of the Chinese government. So in some weird way you manage to be even dumber than her?

So were you even alive in 1989?
again, the massacre didn't happen. it's a psy op by the US.gov. this has been thoroughly debunked by people that were actually there that aren't under the US and UK payroll.

please point out where I said russia, iran, china were pillars of freedom and truth?
are we arguing that the US.gov and their PR arm are truth tellers and have never been deceitful, especially against adversaries? really?

US just got caught with more made up lies about china. the world already sees through our lies, it's time we wake up too.
 

sdifox

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Yes, the point of them showing the live coverage of him standing defiantly in front of a tank, then conveniently cutting away to not show how he climbs the tank to talk to the soldier piloting the tank, then is safely whisked away by other civilians, is that we will be able to predict his supposed "disappearance without a trace" years later.
makes complete sense to me now. no other ulterior motives. yep.
What? I saw all that.
 
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sdifox

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again, the massacre didn't happen. it's a psy op by the US.gov. this has been thoroughly debunked by people that were actually there that aren't under the US and UK payroll.

please point out where I said russia, iran, china were pillars of freedom and truth?
are we arguing that the US.gov and their PR arm are truth tellers and have never been deceitful, especially against adversaries? really?

US just got caught with more made up lies about china. the world already sees through our lies, it's time we wake up too.
Right. That is why you cannot find anything about 8964 in China, because no one was killed so the government decided to erase it from history and people's mind.

Here is the author of the psy op article you linked, a fiction writer out of HK...

 
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nexus5rocks

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journalist Don Debar visited the region in china where muslim torture is allegedly happening and exposes the lies.
china is opening up for tourism and people will learn the truth. the biggest losers are the US.gov and the media. what little credibility they have left will be completely lost.

 
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brycejones

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journalist Don Debar visited the region in china where muslim torture is allegedly happening and exposes the lies.
china is opening up for tourism and people will learn the truth. the biggest losers are the US.gov and the media. what little credibility they have left will be completely lost.

sure whatever

 

nexus5rocks

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sure whatever

funny how they never provide any evidence of their claims. even their claims are weak as shit. not a single dead body but the US claims china is committing genocide, and idiots fall for the same lies over and over again. just like WMD, just like viagra rapes, just like syria gassing their own people. yawn...
Amnesty International found no evidence of progress in implementing recommendations contained in the OHCHR’s 2022 report which documented possible crimes against humanity against members of Uyghur and other predominantly Muslim groups in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region.
 

sdifox

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journalist Don Debar visited the region in china where muslim torture is allegedly happening and exposes the lies.
china is opening up for tourism and people will learn the truth. the biggest losers are the US.gov and the media. what little credibility they have left will be completely lost.




Xinjiang is 1.665M km². You don't think it's possible they flew that guy in, all expense paid, to show him something to counter the truth?
 
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sdifox

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LoL Thinkers Forum. That has got to be PRC propaganda channel.


I knew it, operated by The China Academy...



And I can find no trace of the journalist in the video. There are other Don DeBar journalists but nothing on the guy in the video.

Is it this guy?



Yeah if this is the guy I am gonna call bullshit on journalist... He's a title insurance agent for 52 years.



Don DeBar, based in Ossining, NY, US, is currently a Segment Producer at KPFK-FM, bringing experience from previous roles at CommunityPublicRadio.org, PressTV, RT, various, Green Party of the United States and Title Insurance and Real Property Consulting. Don DeBar holds a Ossining High School. With a robust skill set that includes Short Sales, Marketing Strategy, Fundraising, Microsoft Office, Real Estate and more, Don DeBar contributes valuable insights to the industry. Don DeBar has 4 emails on RocketReach.
 
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