you can try to discredit him all you want. he actually went there, along with dozens of other delegates and heads of state from muslim countries and found no signs of genocide.LoL Thinkers Forum. That has got to be PRC propaganda channel.
I knew it, operated by The China Academy...
About us - China Academy
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And I can find no trace of the journalist in the video. There are other Jon DeBar journalists but nothing on the guy in the video.
Is it this guy?
Ossining's Don DeBar Appearing on Russian TV
Ossining's Don DeBar is becoming a familiar face on international television.patch.com
Yeah if this is the guy I am gonna call bullshit on journalist... He's a title insurance agent for 52 years.
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so you can now use satellite images to differentiate buildings? please point out from the image in the link which one is the prison.Satellite imagery reveals skyrocketing number of China's internment camps
Satellite images from Xinjiang show where hundreds of prisons have been constructed since 2018 to accommodate China's mass incarceration of Uighurs and other Muslim ethnic groupswww.newarab.com
And before you call them fake images, they are from Chinese satellite imagery.
American hypocrisy in Gaza is plain as day. But what has that got to do with PRC's persecution of Uyghurs?you can try to discredit him all you want. he actually went there, along with dozens of other delegates and heads of state from muslim countries and found no signs of genocide.
meanwhile we have 50k+ dead in gaza and the US claims they don't see any grounds for claims of genocide.
0 dead muslims in xinjiang china? definitely genocide.
even a blind idiot can see through the hypocrisy and lies.
So you aren't even as qualified as a blind idiot? Finally something we can agree on.even a blind idiot can see through the hypocrisy and lies.
Close, China is a paragon of freedom of religion and the press. All western media is corrupt and captured by western governments to demonize the virtuous China.Catch me up. Are we in the presence of the "North Korea is Best Korea" guy?
and you posted a link to a known CIA cutout. it doesn't discredit what an actual american citizen with firsthand experience in the region is saying in an interview with a "known PRC propaganda organization".American hypocrisy in Gaza is plain as day. But what has that got to do with PRC's persecution of Uyghurs?
Bottom line, you posted a video from a known PRC propaganda organization. If I got the wrong "journalist", please point me to the right one.
the quiet parts are being said out loud here.there are 20 million uighurs and they don't like han chinese in xinjiang province in western china, and if the CIA has to mount an operation using those uyghurs... the CIA would want to destabilize china and that would be the best way to do it.
LoL keep on keeping on. I linked to The China Academy website, the one operating the video channel you posted. They admitted to being Chinese lobby and you buy their propaganda wholesale.and you posted a link to a known CIA cutout. it doesn't discredit what an actual american citizen with firsthand experience in the region is saying in an interview with a "known PRC propaganda organization".
extraordinary claims (genocide) require extraordinary evidence, of which no one has provided.
the US is well known for manipulating the public to manufacture consent to drag the world into conflict. it's lied time and time again about vietnam, iraq, syria and suddenly we're going to believe what they tell us about Russia and China. that we hate china, and we hate muslims but we care so deeply about muslims in china? get real.
there's one reason that the US has anything to say about china, and that's to drag them through the mud, as a US military office recently admitted.
and here's another US colonel literally admitting the reason why the US cares about uighurs.
the quiet parts are being said out loud here.
call it propaganda all you want. there are dozens, hundreds of international visitors making youtube videos about china and xinjiang, just like the Don Debar guy you are trying to discredit. they're calling out the lies of the US.gov.LoL keep on keeping on. I linked to The China Academy website, the one operating the video channel you posted. They admitted to being Chinese lobby and you buy their propaganda wholesale.
Make up your mind, either you believe them or you don't.
Have you found the bio of your "journalist" yet? Or is the guy I found your source? How about tbe "Psy Op" author? Did I get the right sci fi writer out of HK?
Which of my link is a CIA front? Please enlighten me. RFA? Like I said I linked it for your convenience. At least RFA tells you they are funded by US government.
You are linking video from a Libertarian Think Tank... figures.
here is a Taiwanese youtuber talking about the story.
You are going to have to find your own translator.
Actually, the video does allow autotranslate to English. I hope you are not going to say this guy is paid by US Government to gaslight Americans.
you're going to be seeing similar elements that we have been seeing with ukraine. xinjiang is going to be the next taiwan.
when you look at a map, you see the important of xinjiang. that is the entry artery of energy coming from kazakhstan or turkmenistan into china, whether it's natural gas or if it's oil, it has to pass [through xinjiang]. as far as the pipeline, as long as gladio, the USA, the CIA, NATO, they control that region with terrorism, can you imagine pipeline safely going through xinjiang getting into the heartland of mainland china. that's not going to happen.
that's why it's very important, it's going to come to the point where we're going to have someone similar to richard gere start giving speeches during the Oscars acceptance, talk about how about how like the monks in Tibet, how these people are being abused and oppressed and they need to have their own land and carved out. and as we talked about before, the US has already brought one of these figures from xinjiang area into the US, into the state dept, and they had a meeting where they declared him the president of east turkistan. as far as the US is concerned, they even have a president for xinjiang. how can you have a president for a country/nation that doesn't exist, there is no sovereignt, it's part of mainland china. meaning that is the objective, we want another taiwan.
the truth is much closer to the chinese side than what the westerners are saying."
Right. The US made Russia invade Ukraine in 2014.call it propaganda all you want. there are dozens, hundreds of international visitors making youtube videos about china and xinjiang, just like the Don Debar guy you are trying to discredit. they're calling out the lies of the US.gov.
they express their shock about how different the media portrayal of china/xinjiang is when compared to what they're witnessing with their own eyes.
you can only prey on the ignorant for so long. hard to hide the truth in the internet age.
notice you completely glossed over the video that states the exact reason for the uyghur narrative being spread by the US - to drag china's name through the mud and destabilize them.
here's another revelation from an FBI whistleblower from a DECADE ago, before anyone ever heard of the words uighur and xinjiang, predicting the chaos the US would sow there.
funny how she calls out tibet (another failed destabilization attempt by the US) and taiwan twice. better warn your countrymen that the US is out to fight china via the taiwan military, down to the last taiwanese, just like what they're doing in the ukraine proxy war.
starts at 1:00 - 10:00
the US instigated and orchestrated the maidan coup in 2014.Right. The US made Russia invade Ukraine in 2014.
Stick to the topic, China. You want to talk about American hegemony, start your own thread.
I don't depend on American news for things happening in Asia ok?
I am still waiting for you to prove me wrong on the 'journalist' and the sci fi writer from HK. Since you claim the internet won't tolerate lies, it should be easy to prove me wrong.
Oh, China is also on the Fuck Russia bandwagon. They want to buy Russian gas at Russian domestic price.
Russia-China gas pipeline talks hit roadblock over price and supply
Russia's efforts to reach a significant gas pipeline agreement with China have hit a roadblock due to disagreements over price and supply.www.offshore-technology.com
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I wonder which side you will defend on that fracas. And that pipe doesn't go through Xinjiang.
the US instigated and orchestrated the maidan coup in 2014.
sure, let's stay on topic on alleged muslim genocide in china.
you can begin by addressing the two US officials that openly stated using uighurs in xinjiang to destabilize china.
nice job regurgitating all of US.gov's talking points, who received it from a german china/xinjiang watcher that has never been to the region and doesn't even speak chinese.What have we here? A CCP fluffer, in this thread? No way.
Should we tell him about how satellite intel works? How seeing things means they're there? Thing is about detaining over a million people, you have to build a lot of places to keep them. Funny how the Chinese first denied they even existed, no? The security towers with cameras and guns facing inward, also amusing, hell I'd laugh if there wasn't so much suffering involved. Maybe someone could tell us what happened to roughly 16,000 mosques those Uighurs seem to have misplaced. The CIA just up and whisked them away I suppose? Causing Russia to fuck itself by invading Ukraine was a successfully orchestrated American plot, so doing a little surreptitious remodeling across northern China should be small potatoes, right?
Denial, ain't just a river in Egypt
Arbitrary detention, confinement, forced labor, torture, forced sterilization, forced abortions, CCP goons moving into the homes of Uighur families who have fathers in the prisons...the list goes on. Sorry, 'vocational training and cultural education centers' is the official term, of course. Carl Schmitt would be so proud of his students, and their cheerleaders *wink* Completely unrelated, does anyone know the Mandarin term for 'organ farm'?
Anyone who thinks authoritarian fascist regimes committing genocide is extraordinary either is completely ignorant of Russian and Chinese history, a liar, or both. No genocides in China? Tell that to the Dzungar Mongols. Ethnic groups getting wiped out in China has been happening since at least 350 CE. It was more common for them to be scattered by force then assimilate into other ethnic groups rather than being made extinct, but it happened. Then Stalin happened.
The Uighur birthrate is under direct assault from Beijing, as is their language and religion. No amount of whataboutisms or CCP propaganda changes that.
So, no proof on your sources being an actual journalist and whatever the othe guy is supposed to be?
A title insurance salesman for 52 year is the best you can do to prove your point? Or is it the sci-fi writer from HK your ironclad source?
Taiwan report on your Muslim Delegation visiting Xinjiang seeing no genocide.
Xinjiang tour blatant propaganda - Taipei Times
Bringing Taiwan to the World and the World to Taiwanwww.taipeitimes.com
Canada expressing concern.
A paper out of Brasil (B in BRIC) on why some Muslim majority coutries sided with China on this issue.
Understanding Muslim Countries’ Support for China’s Actions in Xinjiang: A Qualitative-Comparative Analysis
Abstract This study examines why 23 Muslim-majority countries supported China at the United...www.scielo.br