The people looking for that can just move to Mexico, no need to fuck the rest of us over when there is something close enough just to our south.
I'm okay with all this.
I think the USA has enough land to fall back on that in the end, we could just become an agrarian society.
The only thing to worry about then is being conquered. So we would need some sort of militia and an economy large enough to still be able to manufacture guns and bullets.
Who knows, it might be nice?
Stop eating the lead paint chips, idiot. What kind of nonsensical rambling is this steaming pile of shit you've laid out here?
Nothing you said had ANYTHING to do with what I posted.
Last I checked roughly 40 of the economy is still outright owned or controlled by the Chinese govt./communist party and a good chunk of what remains was hived off to 'private' individuals and families who are friends and relatives of the party leaders. The Chinese govt. still puts out '5 year plans' for the economy. Apparently the country is in it's 12th 5 year plan.
While elements of capitalism have been mixed in, the overall economy is certainly not capitalist.
Did you just pull that "fact" out of your ass?
Our colleges lead world in what unemployed graduates taught a bunch of nonsense? Student debt? While having a legacy and a couple are still great MIT/Caltech/Stanford I see a lot of foreigners imported from IITs and places like University of Peking to top tech companies and investment banks. Hell if it wasnt for limitations on H1Bs CEOs are begging for all the time I bet our top companies wouldn't even bother with dumbed down grade inflated US university grads. Grad schools and professional schools today are like 50% foreign. Seen you doctor lately? I did and when looking over provider manual over half had Asian names. Foeign, still pass a complicated medical licencing test in English. Become doctors. I wonder how many of our grads could do that say to China?
You just proved my point. Too bad...
It took us a little over a decade to design, build, test and fly manned missions to, and eventually land on, the friggen moon.
Might be the most true statement every typed on these forums.
I feel I have to point this out.
That is no different from the USA, or almost any 1st world country. All of these systems are modern day implementations of economic hierarchies that existed under feudalism.
You pay a tax to "own" property. If you fail to pay your tax, you will be removed from "your" property. You do not have the right to do what you wish on "your' property (even if you live in the boonies). For example, few "landowners" have mineral rights to their land.
And if the gov't decides they need to do something for the "greater good" using your property, you will find that your land is not yours no matter where you live.
See eminent domain.
The only thing that will save you is the same thing that would save you in China - public outrage. Most of the time that doesn't happen.
Not that I think you're worth a shit, but it's a well known fact that Gov't workers make up ~20% of all workers.
Moreover, they are the top of the heap in terms of income and benefits.
That does not sound like a democracy.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/03/02/government-employees-true-1-percent/
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/economy/income/2010-08-10-1Afedpay10_ST_N.htm
"In Las Vegas (Clark County) the average firefighter earns $199,678 per year. "
"Article number three in Sunday’s paper was about a now retired Las Vegas homicide detective and possible police brutality. It had nothing to do with pensions. But interestingly, the retired homicide detective they quote in the story is 47 years old.
He’s 47 and already retired? "
"Recent studies prove the average janitor that works for government makes over $600,000 more in his career than a private sector janitor."
"I recently talked with a retired New York City toll taker. His salary averaged about $70,000 per year over 20 years. But in his last few years he worked loads of overtime and added in accumulated sick days to get his salary in those final years up to $150,000.
His pension is based on his final years' salary. This is a common pension-padding ploy.
He bragged that he will now get a taxpayer funded pension of $120,000 a year for the rest of his life. He’s only 50 years old. "
Congressional Republicans want to cancel the across-the-board increase in 2011, which would save $2.2 billion.
"Americans are fed up with public employee pay scales far exceeding that in the private sector," says Rep. Eric Cantor, R-Va., the second-ranking Republican in the House.
Sen. Ted Kaufman, D-Del., says a pay freeze would unfairly scapegoat federal workers without addressing real budget problems.
I can go on and on an on.
At least 20% of you will get pissed off (at me) and defend the above....
How does an educated foreign population tear America apart? At least half of the faculty in my department (chemistry) are "foreign". Most of them have lived here 10+ years and I find it unlikely that many of them have plans of moving back any time. Look around at pretty much any EE/CPE job and you'll find a significant number of legal immigrants, living here. Or does the very idea of being out-competed right here at home scare you as well?
I don't have a clue as to what your statement means in terms of what I quoted and made a statement to. I think you've got some wires crossed somewhere. From what I read, he was talking about partisan politics and deep political divide that this country has (see this forum). As for the other half, they simply want to play whatever the hot video game is and don't give a shit about the country or the downward spiral.
Manufacturing pulled out from under the middle class and the tech/science jobs are next. The smug people around here who are so very happy to see the manufacturing in other countries (so they can buy their cheap stuff) may very well be feeding the country that's going to turn around and eat them.
Not that I think you're worth a shit, but it's a well known fact that Gov't workers make up ~20% of all workers.
Moreover, they are the top of the heap in terms of income and benefits.
That does not sound like a democracy.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/03/02/government-employees-true-1-percent/
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/economy/income/2010-08-10-1Afedpay10_ST_N.htm
"In Las Vegas (Clark County) the average firefighter earns $199,678 per year. "
"Article number three in Sundays paper was about a now retired Las Vegas homicide detective and possible police brutality. It had nothing to do with pensions. But interestingly, the retired homicide detective they quote in the story is 47 years old.
Hes 47 and already retired? "
"Recent studies prove the average janitor that works for government makes over $600,000 more in his career than a private sector janitor."
"I recently talked with a retired New York City toll taker. His salary averaged about $70,000 per year over 20 years. But in his last few years he worked loads of overtime and added in accumulated sick days to get his salary in those final years up to $150,000.
His pension is based on his final years' salary. This is a common pension-padding ploy.
He bragged that he will now get a taxpayer funded pension of $120,000 a year for the rest of his life. Hes only 50 years old. "
Congressional Republicans want to cancel the across-the-board increase in 2011, which would save $2.2 billion.
"Americans are fed up with public employee pay scales far exceeding that in the private sector," says Rep. Eric Cantor, R-Va., the second-ranking Republican in the House.
Sen. Ted Kaufman, D-Del., says a pay freeze would unfairly scapegoat federal workers without addressing real budget problems.
I can go on and on an on.
At least 20% of you will get pissed off (at me) and defend the above....
Political apathy is such a novel idea. Why didn't anyone think of it before?
We did this to ourselves because we are a nation of morons:
1. We sent the jobs overseas.
2. We educated foreign graduate students.
We just gave them our economy and scientific and engineering prowess. Brilliant! We also imported tens of millions of impoverished immigrants. Our nation deserves to descend to third world nationhood and it is in the process of doing so.
I don't have a clue as to what your statement means in terms of what I quoted and made a statement to. I think you've got some wires crossed somewhere. From what I read, he was talking about partisan politics and deep political divide that this country has (see this forum). As for the other half, they simply want to play whatever the hot video game is and don't give a shit about the country or the downward spiral.
We did this to ourselves because we are a nation of morons:
1. We sent the jobs overseas.
2. We educated foreign graduate students.
We just gave them our economy and scientific and engineering prowess. Brilliant! We also imported tens of millions of impoverished immigrants. Our nation deserves to descend to third world nationhood and it is in the process of doing so.
Maybe they got the right idea. I know when I turn it all off I get a lot happier.
Manufacturing pulled out from under the middle class and the tech/science jobs are next. The smug people around here who are so very happy to see the manufacturing in other countries (so they can buy their cheap stuff) may very well be feeding the country that's going to turn around and eat them.
China is more capitalist than is the United States.
Hell, China's actually more capitalist than I would wish for the United States.
Sorry, but ya it is.