China providing a whopping $100K in aid for Filopino victims of Supertyphoon Haiyan

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Six

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In the grand scheme of things it's not a lot of money, sure. But considering all of the problems our own people are facing, it seems wrong to me that we're giving money to someone else. I get the whole "helping your fellow man" thing, but we should be helping ourselves first. The number is irrelevant, it's the principle.

LMAO. Thousands dead. Hundreds of thousands without basic necessities. A mother craddling a trash bag with her dead infant inside...and you brought up "principle." Whatever we are facing cannot be worse than that.
 

Michael

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The Philippines is former American territory, an ally, and there are extensive ties to that country. So many of them have served in our armed forces, especially the Navy, over the years.

I can understand why sending aid to Syria where both sides hate us does not make a lot of sense (ignoring the basic human plight of the people there). I cannot grasp anyone would say that we have other concerns when it comes to the Philippines. We should be doing all we can to help them.

Michael
 

HamburgerBoy

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In the grand scheme of things it's not a lot of money, sure. But considering all of the problems our own people are facing, it seems wrong to me that we're giving money to someone else. I get the whole "helping your fellow man" thing, but we should be helping ourselves first. The number is irrelevant, it's the principle.

Why should we give a cent to some unemployed white trash or ghetto rat piece of shit before others just because the latter may not live within our borders?

Technically, that's like U.S sending 100k, since we borrow all their money.

:thumbsup:
 

someone16

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Why would China even give anything to Philippines? They have some territorial dispute going on and Philippines is an ally to the US.

Not to mention the Hong Kong hostage incident that happened. I feel bad for Philippines for having an asshat for president.
 

xanis

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Why should we give a cent to some unemployed white trash or ghetto rat piece of shit before others just because the latter may not live within our borders?

Yeah... I said what I said and then look at it this morning and thought, "Xanis, you're an idiot."
 

dud

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Why would China even give anything to Philippines? They have some territorial dispute going on and Philippines is an ally to the US.

Not to mention the Hong Kong hostage incident that happened. I feel bad for Philippines for having an asshat for president.




Perhaps out of compassion?

It seems that China has little-to-none ...
 

AViking

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The pictures coming out of the Philipines are both beautiful and disastrous. Makes me really want to go there. How can a place so absolutely destroyed still be so stunning?

It amazes me that China cannot put aside their petty political differences and just have some human compassion. They're stingy. They gave money to Pakistan when they had that Earthquake and it was still only $4M. Meanwhile places like Kuwait gave $100M. It's just mind boggling how stingy they can be.
 

mosco

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It probably doesn't matter what any country donates to the government of the PI, as my filipino mother-in-law said, "It's not like any of this money is going to make it to the people that need it". Too much corruption.
 

DrunkenSano

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I don't see the issue with China donating very little. If something happened in Iran or N.K. or generally one of the middle eastern countries that hate us, I hope our gov't doesn't donate a penny.
 

dud

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Looks like the Chinese Government might have gotten a bit too much negative press for donating only the $100K:


"Update, Nov 14, 01:40 ET: Chinese media reported on Nov. 14 that China was sending an additional $1.64 million in supplies to Haiyan’s victims."
 

Braznor

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The Chinese do not hand gifts unless it can be turned into a rope around the necks of the donee it is donating to.

All the trillions China lent to you Americans only serves as a leash around your country's neck. It is not the matter of how many notes your Federal Reserve can print, it all about the personalities who tells them to stop printing that money. China is now one amongst these personalities, think of this Americans.
 

Dari

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There was an innocent a couple of years ago where a bus full of Chinese tourists from Hong Kong was hijacked. The hotshot Filipino SWAT raided the bus and that led to many dead Chinese tourists. The Chinese (families) have been harassing the Filipinos for payment ever since, something the Filipino government has been either unable or unwilling to give. Also, the Chinese government is locked in a territorial dispute with the Philippines government...
 

IndyColtsFan

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The Chinese do not hand gifts unless it can be turned into a rope around the necks of the donee it is donating to.

All the trillions China lent to you Americans only serves as a leash around your country's neck. It is not the matter of how many notes your Federal Reserve can print, it all about the personalities who tells them to stop printing that money. China is now one amongst these personalities, think of this Americans.

A forum member here said something that I think perfectly illustrates China's position with respect to the United States, so allow me to quote him:

"If you owe the bank $1 million, that's your problem. If you owe the bank $1 billion, that's the bank's problem."

In other words, China needs us more than we need them.
 

AViking

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I don't see the issue with China donating very little. If something happened in Iran or N.K. or generally one of the middle eastern countries that hate us, I hope our gov't doesn't donate a penny.

Yeah luckily you aren't in charge. We give aid to Iran everytime they have an Earthquake. They are a proud country and have tried to turn it down before but changed their mind and accepted it. With 26,000 people dead you can't really be playing that game.
 

madoka

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I don't see the issue with China donating very little. If something happened in Iran or N.K. or generally one of the middle eastern countries that hate us, I hope our gov't doesn't donate a penny.

As a matter of fact, Obama has sent 50 times more aid to Syrians (over $1 billion) who hate us as opposed to our close allies, the Filipinos ($20 million).
 

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Looks like the Chinese Government might have gotten a bit too much negative press for donating only the $100K:


"Update, Nov 14, 01:40 ET: Chinese media reported on Nov. 14 that China was sending an additional $1.64 million in supplies to Haiyan

If you speak or read Chinese, you'll be able to spot the double meaning embedded in that amount of money. A literal fuck you to the Philippine government
 
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nehalem256

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As a matter of fact, Obama has sent 50 times more aid to Syrians (over $1 billion) who hate us as opposed to our close allies, the Filipinos ($20 million).

Sounds like maybe we should follow the lead of the Chinese and stop donating money to our enemies and give it to our friends instead
 

Braznor

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A forum member here said something that I think perfectly illustrates China's position with respect to the United States, so allow me to quote him:

"If you owe the bank $1 million, that's your problem. If you owe the bank $1 billion, that's the bank's problem."

In other words, China needs us more than we need them.

I see your point is true in terms of an economic sense where the free people of the US will always be able to command an economic presence as consumers of goods of fairly complex technology.

The greater problem in this assumption arises when it comes to the denudation of the personal financial capacity of an American in terms of being a consumer in their own individual capacity.

So what if Father China extends unlimited credit to Mother America in terms of manufacturing credits?

So what if it is true that free Americans at a basic level are being deprived of basic industries which help keep their civilization at a level of sustenance with an appropriate level of technological understanding?

This is the reason of the huge unemployment in the US too. The U.S is depending on China to provide it basic sustenance in terms of consumer goods production. This is a very disturbing evolution of the hierarchy of Mother America in my books. Remember the Soviet Union could produce ICBMs, but not a single factory which made toothpaste as a societal chemical to keep russian teeth clean.

Remember even if you refuse to buy chinese goods someday, China will still have the capacity to produce such goods for its own citizens and none of you as an American despite all the credits you advance to it. I'm an Indian, but I debate in such terms of logic and Hierarchy as an Universal Human Being.


You know I speak the truth. The truth is that your politicians and plutocrats sold your civilization out for greater profits.
 

sdifox

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The pictures coming out of the Philipines are both beautiful and disastrous. Makes me really want to go there. How can a place so absolutely destroyed still be so stunning?

It amazes me that China cannot put aside their petty political differences and just have some human compassion. They're stingy. They gave money to Pakistan when they had that Earthquake and it was still only $4M. Meanwhile places like Kuwait gave $100M. It's just mind boggling how stingy they can be.

The Politburo doesn't care about Chinese people dying and you expect them to care about Philippines?
 
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