China's newest export to the US and the world

Svnla

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(CBS) Some call China the factory to the world. And now it has factories for a popular new export: art.

If someone, somewhere, at some time painted it, workers can make a copy, or a 100.

Van Gogh sold one painting in his lifetime. Today, his works like "Starry Night" come off the line by the dozens, reports CBS News correspondent Barry Petersen.

If you buy one of these paintings in the United States, it would cost about $500. But at the factory, if you buy in bulk, you can get them for about $60 per copy.

The factory is part of an art village whose production is all about reproduction - gallery after gallery, painter after painter, art for the masses by masses of artists.

Cheng Pei, spent four days on the "Mona Lisa," that took Leonardo Da Vinci four years to paint. Cheng will sell you his version for $36.

Asked who is the most difficult painter to replicate, Cheng says, "Rembrandt."

When it comes to landscapes, most artists paint what they see. Most of these workers have never been to the places depicted in the original pictures -- they only paint what someone else saw.

They can even take a small photo from a computer e-mail and turn it into fine art.

It was Michelangelo who said, "A man paints with his brain, not with his hands." But at the factory, it is all about hands -- the faster they paint, the more they make -- in a country that has turned the assembly line?into an art form.

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TheoPetro

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i dont know how i feel about that one.

being an amature artist (one of my many half assed hobbies) i dont think id like it if i was famous and had people replicating my work and selling it.
 

maddogchen

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nothing new, thats what they do in Chinese art schools, they go here make 100 copies of this. And then they get paid a portion that helps them get through school.
 

ironcrotch

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Originally posted by: TheoPetro
i dont know how i feel about that one.

being an amature artist (one of my many half assed hobbies) i dont think id like it if i was famous and had people replicating my work and selling it.

ARRRRRR MATEY
 

Conky

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It's the Chinese culture... they invent nothing and copy everything. And with their numbers one day they will overcome the rest of us. :laugh: Hopefully, I will be long dead by that time.

 

b0mbrman

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
its like a real nice poster lol
Originally posted by: TheoPetro
i dont know how i feel about that one.

being an amature artist (one of my many half assed hobbies) i dont think id like it if i was famous and had people replicating my work and selling it.

People replicate artwork all the time...as long as they're not trying to pass it off as the original, where's the problem?
 

Sheepathon

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Originally posted by: Crazyfool
It's the Chinese culture... they invent nothing and copy everything.

Gunpowder, the wheelbarrow, the compass, spaghetti, the fan, kites, iron casting, agriculture using harnessed animals, clocks, the rudder, paper and printing, origami...
Oh, you meant today. Yeah, I suppose you're right for the most part.
 
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Originally posted by: Crazyfool
It's the Chinese culture... they invent nothing and copy everything. And with their numbers one day they will overcome the rest of us. :laugh: Hopefully, I will be long dead by that time.

then who will they copy?
 

ForumMaster

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damn those annoying chinease! all they ever do i s make a copy of your work, and it is always cheaper and better then your!
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: Sheepathon
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
It's the Chinese culture... they invent nothing and copy everything.

Gunpowder, the wheelbarrow, the compass, spaghetti, the fan, kites, iron casting, agriculture using harnessed animals, clocks, the rudder, paper and printing, origami...
Oh, you meant today. Yeah, I suppose you're right for the most part.

Uh oh, Crazyfool played "Bait the Person of Chinese Origin."

 

AcidBath

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Originally posted by: Svnla
If you buy one of these paintings in the United States, it would cost about $500.

If it stays that way then this is no big deal. But when a company starts bringing them in by the container load and selling them at Target for $69.95 then we may have a problem. It has been happening with virtually everything China exports.

Anything we can make in the US, China can make cheaper. I work for a US manufacturing company that goes head to head with China. Used to be that our quality was much higher but then the Chinese manufacturers got better at replicating our product. And by cheaper, I mean much cheaper. We pay an average (benefits, etc) of $24 per hour for our labor in the US. In China the average to make what we make is $1.40 an hour. Hard to compete with that. So we are just building a plant in China.

Not that it is China's fault. They are competing and doing it more or less fairly. It is a rapidly changing world economy that is going to require a fundamental change in the way the US produces it's goods.

Either that or the boom in China will escalate the cost of living though rapid inflation and everything will balance out in the end.
 

NGC_604

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Ok now someone find a high quality picture of one of these on emule or torrent and I'll be all set to complete the cycle.
 

J0hnny

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I'd buy one. Damn things are expensive to print out and not worth it. Easier to just get a fake and tell everyone it's a fake. Who cares if it's from China.

I want bottom dollar prices!
 

Svnla

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I was surprised how fast and how well they paint those paintings <especially the Mona Lisa>. I wouldn't mind to buy a few as long as they label those paintings as "copy".

There was a story about a guy in England that paint masterpieces very well. He did try to pass his works as originals, got busted, went to jail. He got out and became a well paid *copy* artist.
 

GeneValgene

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Originally posted by: J0hnny
I'd buy one. Damn things are expensive to print out and not worth it. Easier to just get a fake and tell everyone it's a fake. Who cares if it's from China.

I want bottom dollar prices!

exactly...if i wanted a copy i'd rather buy one of these chinese ones that are hand copied, rather than posters or reprints
 

theknight571

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I bet Bob Ross and his happy little trees could compete with them. For landscapes at least.

If you've never seen this guy's show on PBS.... you gotta see it at least once. Half hour, start to finish... complete painting.
 

theknight571

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Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: theknight571
I bet Bob Ross and his happy little trees could compete with them. For landscapes at least.

maybe if he was still alive

Oh...didn't know he died. Sorry to hear that.

I just happend to flip past one of his shows the other day so the name was fresh in my mind. My son was fasinated by him... lol
 

40Hands

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Originally posted by: theknight571
I bet Bob Ross and his happy little trees could compete with them. For landscapes at least.

If you've never seen this guy's show on PBS.... you gotta see it at least once. Half hour, start to finish... complete painting.

You know he's dead right?

Anyways, China is also a huge pollution source for the world which is part of the reason it's so cheap to manufacture products over there...
 
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