Chinese Death Camp Revealed

[dahunan]

I wanted to puke when I heard about these sickos getting the olympic games
http://www.beijing2008china.com/
http://en.beijing2008.com/

I suppose some will say the Chinese Govt is better than the US Govt?

 

[Strk]

There are over 1.3 billion Chinese; why can't they overturn their government?

 

[imported_Aelius]

Originally posted by: Strk
There are over 1.3 billion Chinese; why can't they overturn their government?

It almost did. The "Iron Rice Bowl" was about to collapse. (check out the PBS Frontline ep on China that shows how close they were to collapse similar to the old USSR)

Take a wild guess who came to China's rescue.

I'll give you 3 guesses but you only gona need one.

Why?

Money.

 

[magomago]

wow that is insanely disturbing...It really makes me change my views on the Chinese government. I know they have problems, but I figured they tried to progress FOREWARD and improve their condition. This however makes me backpedal. Aren't the people who are preforming these heinous acts HUMANS...don't they have a concious? I'm PRETTY sure you do not have to religous to atlesat beleive in the right to your body!

It makes me wonder that for each defector, how many doctors could be silently working, and how many businessmen could be eagerly making deals...It must be scary to grow up in an enviornment like that; especially onewhere the government sanctions the removal of body parts from people against their will

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
We had a case in the US some time ago where a rich guy kidnaped a person and stole a kidney from him for his sick daughter as I recall. That was a long time ago, early 80's??

Unfortunately, this is still a very real issue here in the US, even if not government-sanctioned or widespread. We're having an ethical symposium on live organ donation here in the next week or two - should be interesting.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: JacobJ

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Awesome, cheap goods, cheap labor and population control and no worrying about voting all in one, an absolute Republcan's dream to wet in their pants.

While I generally give you the benefit of the doubt, I honestly belive you should be banned for this insensitive and hateful remark.

Originally posted by: Strk
There are over 1.3 billion Chinese; why can't they overturn their government?

Bingo

 

[Zebo]

Wait wait.. I though MFN was supposed to make them more open, repect human rights, less slave labor, you know become the next America? Har har suckers. I guess we only reward terrorists when it's finacially beneficial.

The "solution" to our outsourcing that all the anti-American, anti-middle-class asswipes around here want involves American labor getting compensated at levels comparable to Chinese in order to "compete". It never dawns on them they are cutting thier own damn throats by feeding other peoples kids instead of thier own.

 

[catnap1972]

Keep on buying that Chinese crap, kids! :thumbsup:

 

[Proletariat]

Wow, even more reason to align with India.

 

[Jaskalas]

I was against China before I knew this, and it only reinforces the feelings I had about them. No human rights and a growing world power are bad a combination.

We're feeding the beast.

 

[Termagant]

Would the majority of Chinese citizens be disturbed or discomfited if they learned of a prison like this?

Maybe not. The Western philosophy of the individual is not universal. In many societies greater importance is given to the family, the race, the nation, and cultural-national face. Society's and the race's cohesiveness is paramount when dealing with an insurgent movement such as Falun Gong, the renegade province of Taiwan, or religious extremists in Tibet.

The Chinese people know full well that Falun Gong is a threat to the order and civility of their society, and must be dealt with swiftly and mercilously. This is only responding in kind, as Falun Gong followers have demonstrated their extremism and manipulative nature in converting thousands of innocents. How do they know? They were told by their government.

As did the patriotic Germans know about the Jews in Nazi Germany. So too do many of you know about the murderers in Camps Delta, Echo, and Iguana.

With continual economic change in China, openness and awareness of things such as this prison may become more widespread. Who knows how the people will react. But if China is pushed to a confrontation with other nations, do not expect them to show "mercy" to their enemies, because they have not shown Western "mercy" to themselves.

 

[imported_Tango]

Originally posted by: Termagant
Would the majority of Chinese citizens be disturbed or discomfited if they learned of a prison like this?

Maybe not. The Western philosophy of the individual is not universal. In many societies greater importance is given to the family, the race, the nation, and cultural-national face. Society's and the race's cohesiveness is paramount when dealing with an insurgent movement such as Falun Gong, the renegade province of Taiwan, or religious extremists in Tibet.

The Chinese people know full well that Falun Gong is a threat to the order and civility of their society, and must be dealt with swiftly and mercilously. This is only responding in kind, as Falun Gong followers have demonstrated their extremism and manipulative nature in converting thousands of innocents. How do they know? They were told by their government.

As did the patriotic Germans know about the Jews in Nazi Germany. So too do many of you know about the murderers in Camps Delta, Echo, and Iguana.

With continual economic change in China, openness and awareness of things such as this prison may become more widespread. Who knows how the people will react. But if China is pushed to a confrontation with other nations, do not expect them to show "mercy" to their enemies, because they have not shown Western "mercy" to themselves.

This is a joke, right?

 

[1prophet]

Originally posted by: Tango

Originally posted by: Termagant
Would the majority of Chinese citizens be disturbed or discomfited if they learned of a prison like this?

Maybe not. The Western philosophy of the individual is not universal. In many societies greater importance is given to the family, the race, the nation, and cultural-national face. Society's and the race's cohesiveness is paramount when dealing with an insurgent movement such as Falun Gong, the renegade province of Taiwan, or religious extremists in Tibet.

The Chinese people know full well that Falun Gong is a threat to the order and civility of their society, and must be dealt with swiftly and mercilously. This is only responding in kind, as Falun Gong followers have demonstrated their extremism and manipulative nature in converting thousands of innocents. How do they know? They were told by their government.

As did the patriotic Germans know about the Jews in Nazi Germany. So too do many of you know about the murderers in Camps Delta, Echo, and Iguana.

With continual economic change in China, openness and awareness of things such as this prison may become more widespread. Who knows how the people will react. But if China is pushed to a confrontation with other nations, do not expect them to show "mercy" to their enemies, because they have not shown Western "mercy" to themselves.

This is a joke, right?

I don't think he is advocating the behavior, just trying to explain it and his last sentence to me seems like he is saying if you get into a confrontation with them don't pull any punches because they certainly won't.

 

[imported_Tango]

Originally posted by: 1prophet

Originally posted by: Tango

Originally posted by: Termagant
Would the majority of Chinese citizens be disturbed or discomfited if they learned of a prison like this?

Maybe not. The Western philosophy of the individual is not universal. In many societies greater importance is given to the family, the race, the nation, and cultural-national face. Society's and the race's cohesiveness is paramount when dealing with an insurgent movement such as Falun Gong, the renegade province of Taiwan, or religious extremists in Tibet.

The Chinese people know full well that Falun Gong is a threat to the order and civility of their society, and must be dealt with swiftly and mercilously. This is only responding in kind, as Falun Gong followers have demonstrated their extremism and manipulative nature in converting thousands of innocents. How do they know? They were told by their government.

As did the patriotic Germans know about the Jews in Nazi Germany. So too do many of you know about the murderers in Camps Delta, Echo, and Iguana.

With continual economic change in China, openness and awareness of things such as this prison may become more widespread. Who knows how the people will react. But if China is pushed to a confrontation with other nations, do not expect them to show "mercy" to their enemies, because they have not shown Western "mercy" to themselves.

This is a joke, right?

I don't think he is advocating the behavior, just trying to explain it and his last sentence to me seems like he is saying if you get into a confrontation with them don't pull any punches because they certainly won't.

Hum.. I don't understand this part here:
The Chinese people know full well that Falun Gong is a threat to the order and civility of their society, and must be dealt with swiftly and mercilously. This is only responding in kind, as Falun Gong followers have demonstrated their extremism and manipulative nature in converting thousands of innocents. How do they know? They were told by their government.

Does he really think Falun Gong to be manipulative extremists, and a threat for China?

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Get ready America! This is the country that will own us one day. This is the country we're exporting our prosperity to. This is the country thas is acquiring our wealth (which they'll use to purchase our hard assets because there's no way they're going to buy our labor).

 

[1prophet]

Originally posted by: Tango

Originally posted by: 1prophet

Originally posted by: Tango

Originally posted by: Termagant
Would the majority of Chinese citizens be disturbed or discomfited if they learned of a prison like this?

Maybe not. The Western philosophy of the individual is not universal. In many societies greater importance is given to the family, the race, the nation, and cultural-national face. Society's and the race's cohesiveness is paramount when dealing with an insurgent movement such as Falun Gong, the renegade province of Taiwan, or religious extremists in Tibet.

The Chinese people know full well that Falun Gong is a threat to the order and civility of their society, and must be dealt with swiftly and mercilously. This is only responding in kind, as Falun Gong followers have demonstrated their extremism and manipulative nature in converting thousands of innocents. How do they know? They were told by their government.

As did the patriotic Germans know about the Jews in Nazi Germany. So too do many of you know about the murderers in Camps Delta, Echo, and Iguana.

With continual economic change in China, openness and awareness of things such as this prison may become more widespread. Who knows how the people will react. But if China is pushed to a confrontation with other nations, do not expect them to show "mercy" to their enemies, because they have not shown Western "mercy" to themselves.

This is a joke, right?

I don't think he is advocating the behavior, just trying to explain it and his last sentence to me seems like he is saying if you get into a confrontation with them don't pull any punches because they certainly won't.

Hum.. I don't understand this part here:
The Chinese people know full well that Falun Gong is a threat to the order and civility of their society, and must be dealt with swiftly and mercilously. This is only responding in kind, as Falun Gong followers have demonstrated their extremism and manipulative nature in converting thousands of innocents. How do they know? They were told by their government.

Does he really think Falun Gong to be manipulative extremists, and a threat for China?

Translation: I am the government, I am right because I tell you so. Understand?

 

[trenchfoot]

this topic reminds me of the population control methods the chinese government employed (employs?).

i believe the reasoning the chinese goverment uses for harvesting organs from live humans may sound like this: "we're spending scarce state funds to keep them isolated, and seeing as if we're going to kill them anyway, we may as well make a buck or two as well as make them pay for their room, board and crematory services." - pure logic.

 

[dexvx]

Yawn, wouldn't be surprised if its made up. Look at the home page.

Until its verified in a mainstream news outlet, its just an unverified myth.

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

Thanks OP. I don't doubt it a bit. My 55yo sister has worked in the medical industry for
30+years. 25 years ago ppl from Europe were going to Centeral America for organ transplants,
probably wealty Americans too. The organ transfer would happen from ajoining operating rooms.
The doner was generally a kidnap victim.

China is just into mass production.


...Galvanized

 

[dighn]

Epoch Times = Falun Gong propaganda paper. bunch of bullcrap like the stuff they believe in. I don't know if the web version is the same but I've read the printed version in Chinese. It's full of conspiracy theories and pseudoscience and incredible claims. Definitely not a reliable source of any kind of information.

 

[Moonbeam]

What if this is just Falun Gong propaganda? This story should be brought front and center to the world community and on site inspections demanded and independent inquiry obtained before we go off the deep end, it seems to me. If the Chinese are willing to open up and let the world see and they find nothing, it will certainly be a useful lesson in how easily deceived people are. You do see, I hope, that you are more than ready and willing to hate the Chinese. That is, of course, insane.

 

[Braznor]

Wow,

This makes me love my nation India even more.

Compared to China, we are a miracle.

A nation of one billion people having a robust democracy (Flawed, but still highly democratic), good human rights record.

It is pathetic when countries like U.S and Australia (the so called free and enlightened nations) jump through hoops to form alliances with China and refuses to recognize India as a nuclear weapon state.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Braznor
Wow,

This makes me love my nation India even more.

Compared to China, we are a miracle.

A nation of one billion people having a robust democracy (Flawed, but still highly democratic), good human rights record.

It is pathetic when countries like U.S and Australia (the so called free and enlightened nations) jump through hoops to form alliances with China and refuses to recognize India as a nuclear weapon state.

I recognize India for it's mango chutney, superior by far from any I've ever seen from China. And you might what to see a doctor if you are proud of nuclear weapons. Coming from the land of Gandhi, you ought to be ashamed.

 

[Braznor]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I recognize India for it's mango chutney, superior by far from any I've ever seen from China. And you might what to see a doctor if you are proud of nuclear weapons. Coming from the land of Gandhi, you ought to be ashamed.

Spoken like a true ignorant troll,

We have fought a war against China, China is helping Pakistan with Nukes, we have every right to have nukes to defend ourselves. The world can ****** itself, nuclear deal or not. We shall have them and no one can stop us.

As for that mango chutney, stuff it up your *** and STFU!!!!

 

[jbaggins]

Utterly disgusting. China's so-called progress is a sham. Weekly chemical plant/coal mine disasters, now this.

I have lost all respect for the so-called fastest growing economy. Down with their ambition, skyscrapers, and modernization. If you can't respect human value, then you don't reserve respect.