Chinese Death Camp Revealed

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Mean MrMustard

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Jan 5, 2001
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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Darkstar757
Sad,
May god have mercy on there souls.


Religion not allowed there, no mercy for them.

I thought a world without religion was the dream of many a liberal ATer. So which is it? A conservative utopia or a liberal one?


I never heard of a 'liberal' movement against religion, care to enlighten us?

There is an argument for a secular gov't. You tell me how there's any other way of having the 'freedom of religion' without the gov't being secular. I'll be waiting...

Remember, a secular gov't includes those with and without religion. It remains neutral; the way it should be.

 

1prophet

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Aug 17, 2005
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Originally posted by: dexvx
Originally posted by: 1prophet
Originally posted by: dexvx
Originally posted by: Proletariat


Yea everything is Western hate :roll:

When did I say that? I said there are people who like to provoke feelings in Western Countries (Anglo-European and Australian-NZ) to make them hate/sympathize with certain people by creating false stories and passing them along as truth.

And what type of proof would be acceptable to you? Chinese inmates' organs for sale to Britons

And even if the proof you seek was given do you think the west would suddenly just close shop just like they did during Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 ?

How is that any relevant proof? Death Row inmates executed have their orgrans up for sale/donation. I personally would care less about Death Row inmates.

And please, link something other than from epochtimes or another website that links off epochtimes. Its because theres no proof of the incidents at Sujiatun that the Epochtimes is conveniantly saying its a coverup and removal type of deal.

No matter what proof is given, even dead bodies stacked on your doorstep, since all the government has to do is declare them to have been death row inmates and your conscious would be clear.
 

imported_Aelius

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The persecution of the Jews in the 1940s seems to be some sort of bar to be reached and until that bar is reached, it appears, that it's not considered a real concern.

I haven't heard a peep from any of the controlled mass media. I guess if it's not there it's not a concern and it can be ignored.

Even if it was there what do you think would happen. Is anyone going to invade China to free the population? Nobody and they know it.

The best that will happen is the place will be shut down. Moved elsewhere and restarted.
 

3chordcharlie

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Mar 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: dighn
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
What if this is just Falun Gong propaganda? This story should be brought front and center to the world community and on site inspections demanded and independent inquiry obtained before we go off the deep end, it seems to me. If the Chinese are willing to open up and let the world see and they find nothing, it will certainly be a useful lesson in how easily deceived people are. You do see, I hope, that you are more than ready and willing to hate the Chinese. That is, of course, insane.

It's kind of depressing how much people appear to want to believe this. Do they really look at China as some kind of evil presence? This source is far from credible. I don't believe the Chinese government is so evil and stupid to engage in such activities. This is nothing more than a conspiracy theory from a cult propaganda tabloid.
I suppose Tiananman Square was made up, too?
 

Moonbeam

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Nov 24, 1999
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Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: dighn
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
What if this is just Falun Gong propaganda? This story should be brought front and center to the world community and on site inspections demanded and independent inquiry obtained before we go off the deep end, it seems to me. If the Chinese are willing to open up and let the world see and they find nothing, it will certainly be a useful lesson in how easily deceived people are. You do see, I hope, that you are more than ready and willing to hate the Chinese. That is, of course, insane.

It's kind of depressing how much people appear to want to believe this. Do they really look at China as some kind of evil presence? This source is far from credible. I don't believe the Chinese government is so evil and stupid to engage in such activities. This is nothing more than a conspiracy theory from a cult propaganda tabloid.
I suppose Tiananman Square was made up, too?
You know perfectly well that this kind of a rebuttal is no rebuttal at all any more than iprophet's inane comment about bodies on somebody's door. I would like to see a careful investigation of this possibility, not a hysterical acceptance or rejection of it. The problem that I seek to identify here is the obvious and ridiculous willingness to run with any horror story that pops up the moment it does pop up. There are a lot of people here who are pre-programmed to hate the Chinese it looks like to me. I see fear and nothing else, fear and the need to kill that fear with violence. I call that reaction insane. When the evidence for this practice in China is clearly shown to be real and government sanctioned and people are jumping up and down that it needs to be ignored because of trade and other political considerations, I will be here, God willing of course, to also call that insane. But I am not going to dive off a tall building with every horror story that comes along.

 

Alistar7

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Old news, harvesting organs from criminals has gone on for years in China. With their impact of the global economy don't expect anything to be done about it either. Change will have to come from within, on their timeline.
 

1prophet

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: dighn
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
What if this is just Falun Gong propaganda? This story should be brought front and center to the world community and on site inspections demanded and independent inquiry obtained before we go off the deep end, it seems to me. If the Chinese are willing to open up and let the world see and they find nothing, it will certainly be a useful lesson in how easily deceived people are. You do see, I hope, that you are more than ready and willing to hate the Chinese. That is, of course, insane.

It's kind of depressing how much people appear to want to believe this. Do they really look at China as some kind of evil presence? This source is far from credible. I don't believe the Chinese government is so evil and stupid to engage in such activities. This is nothing more than a conspiracy theory from a cult propaganda tabloid.
I suppose Tiananman Square was made up, too?
You know perfectly well that this kind of a rebuttal is no rebuttal at all any more than iprophet's inane comment about bodies on somebody's door. I would like to see a careful investigation of this possibility, not a hysterical acceptance or rejection of it. The problem that I seek to identify here is the obvious and ridiculous willingness to run with any horror story that pops up the moment it does pop up. There are a lot of people here who are pre-programmed to hate the Chinese it looks like to me. I see fear and nothing else, fear and the need to kill that fear with violence. I call that reaction insane. When the evidence for this practice in China is clearly shown to be real and government sanctioned and people are jumping up and down that it needs to be ignored because of trade and other political considerations, I will be here, God willing of course, to also call that insane. But I am not going to dive off a tall building with every horror story that comes along.

My statement on dead bodies on somebodies door was not directed at the poster not believing if the events are true(which I agree with you should be investigated further) but the statement I personally would care less about Death Row inmates.

All one has to do today is label someone a criminal, terrorist, heretic, death row inmate ,etc. in order to find acceptable that which we would be outraged against.


 

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
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Originally posted by: 1prophet
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: dighn
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
What if this is just Falun Gong propaganda? This story should be brought front and center to the world community and on site inspections demanded and independent inquiry obtained before we go off the deep end, it seems to me. If the Chinese are willing to open up and let the world see and they find nothing, it will certainly be a useful lesson in how easily deceived people are. You do see, I hope, that you are more than ready and willing to hate the Chinese. That is, of course, insane.

It's kind of depressing how much people appear to want to believe this. Do they really look at China as some kind of evil presence? This source is far from credible. I don't believe the Chinese government is so evil and stupid to engage in such activities. This is nothing more than a conspiracy theory from a cult propaganda tabloid.
I suppose Tiananman Square was made up, too?
You know perfectly well that this kind of a rebuttal is no rebuttal at all any more than iprophet's inane comment about bodies on somebody's door. I would like to see a careful investigation of this possibility, not a hysterical acceptance or rejection of it. The problem that I seek to identify here is the obvious and ridiculous willingness to run with any horror story that pops up the moment it does pop up. There are a lot of people here who are pre-programmed to hate the Chinese it looks like to me. I see fear and nothing else, fear and the need to kill that fear with violence. I call that reaction insane. When the evidence for this practice in China is clearly shown to be real and government sanctioned and people are jumping up and down that it needs to be ignored because of trade and other political considerations, I will be here, God willing of course, to also call that insane. But I am not going to dive off a tall building with every horror story that comes along.

My statement on dead bodies on somebodies door was not directed at the poster not believing if the events are true(which I agree with you should be investigated further) but the statement I personally would care less about Death Row inmates.

All one has to do today is label someone a criminal, terrorist, heretic, death row inmate ,etc. in order to find acceptable that which we would be outraged against.

Yes I see what you are saying now and probably should have before. Indifference to the convicted is indifference to the self because we are all convicted. Anything that gives us a sense of difference and superiority is turned into a means of evil. We are looking for a place to unload our secret hate of our selves.
 
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