Chinese Jet Barrel-Rolls Over U.S. Plane

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A Chinese fighter jet in international waters buzzed a U.S. Navy surveillance aircraft within 20 feet and did a barrel roll over it in what the White House called a provocation.

The Aug. 19 incident took place about 135 miles (217 kilometers) east of Hainan Island, the southernmost tip of China, amid international tensions over China’s increasingly assertive territorial claims. U.S. and Chinese planes have had several close encounters over the sea since March.

“It’s obviously a deeply concerning provocation,” Ben Rhodes, President Barack Obama’s deputy national security adviser, told reporters yesterday in a briefing on Martha’s Vineyard, Massachusetts, where Obama is on vacation. “We’ve made our concerns known directly to Beijing.”

“What we’ve encouraged is constructive military-to-military ties with China,” Rhodes said. “This type of action clearly violates the spirit of that engagement.”

Geng Shuang, a spokesman for the Chinese embassy in Washington, said in an e-mail that he couldn’t comment on the allegations because he didn’t have details.

“At the same time,” he said, “it has to be pointed out that allegations of similar incidents in recent years all occurred over the coastal waters of China, not those of the United States.”

The Chinese J-11 fighter passed the P-8 Poseidon at 90 degrees, with its belly toward the U.S. aircraft to show off its weapons, according to a U.S. Defense Department statement. The maneuver left the Chinese pilot unable to see the American aircraft, “further increasing the potential for a collision,” the Pentagon said.

The Chinese pilot then flew directly under and alongside the P-8, bringing their wingtips within 20 feet (6 meters), and did a barrel roll over the P-8, passing within 45 feet before stabilizing his fighter, the Pentagon said.

“Military activities may be conducted within the Exclusive Economic Zone of another nation as an exercise of the freedoms of navigation and overflight,” the Pentagon said in reference to the U.S. plane’s proximity to China.

The P-8, made by Chicago-based Boeing Co. (BA), is the Navy’s newest surveillance aircraft, deployed to the Pacific as part of a U.S. strategic shift to Asia.

The most serious encounter between a Chinese fighter and U.S. aircraft was an April 2001 collision with a Navy EP-3 surveillance plane. It resulted in the first diplomatic crisis of President George W. Bush’s administration after the U.S. aircraft made an emergency landing on Hainan Island.

China claims about 90 percent of the South China Sea under a map first published in 1947, a territory that extends hundreds of miles south from Hainan Island and takes in the Paracel Islands, which are claimed by Vietnam, and the Spratly Islands, some of which are claimed by the Philippines.
 
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MongGrel

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It's been going on for years actually, they used to do it to test response time on pulling fighters in some places.
 

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We were 135 miles off their coast? Well no shit, what the hell did you expect?

Imagine if a chinese drone was 100 miles off of Florida, we barrel roll the shit out of that drone. Outrage not found.
 

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At some point we're going to have to go to war with China, I suspect.
Too many US companies invested there all ready, with tons of lobbyists in the US government.

Don't see that happening.

Communism is winning over capitalism at the moment I'd say, more likely the US will become Communist in the future in reality.

They've had those programs and planning going for years, and the US is pretty much floundering around in pity of itself atm more or less.
 
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We were 135 miles off their coast? Well no shit, what the hell did you expect?

Imagine if a chinese drone was 100 miles off of Florida, we barrel roll the shit out of that drone. Outrage not found.

yep, if anything, it was the chinese protecting theyr borders
 

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I still have some unclassified S-2 photos of VMFA-232 F-4 Phantoms flying alongside Russian Bears somewhere.
 

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At some point we're going to have to go to war with China, I suspect.

Not a matter of if, just when. Red China will become the near equivalent to Nazi Germany within 50 years. She will have to be humbled, as Germany was humbled.
 

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We were 135 miles off their coast? Well no shit, what the hell did you expect?

Imagine if a chinese drone was 100 miles off of Florida, we barrel roll the shit out of that drone. Outrage not found.

Where were you when bully china put a huge oil platform inside Vietnam EEZ area (per UN law in which china was a signee) and attacked unarmed fishermen in wooden fishing boats? And when bully china claims over 90% of the sea?


Bully china is acting just like Nazi Germany before the start of WWII, pushing and bullying smaller neighbors and claiming everything under the sun as theirs.
 
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We were 135 miles off their coast? Well no shit, what the hell did you expect?

Imagine if a chinese drone was 100 miles off of Florida, we barrel roll the shit out of that drone. Outrage not found.
A drone and a P8 are very different things.
 

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Bully china is acting just like Nazi Germany before the start of WWII, pushing and bullying smaller neighbors and claiming everything under the sun as theirs.

That's exactly who they're acting like. Hence, why in my post, I said they will turn into a near equivalent to Nazi Germany within 50 years.

Some people might have a good laugh at that, but the fact is, that's exactly who China is starting to resemble. It's at the very beginning stages, but make no mistake, it's happening.
 

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We were 135 miles off their coast? Well no shit, what the hell did you expect?

Imagine if a chinese drone was 100 miles off of Florida, we barrel roll the shit out of that drone. Outrage not found.

But...American exceptionalism.

That's exactly who they're acting like. Hence, why in my post, I said they will turn into a near equivalent to Nazi Germany within 50 years.

Some people might have a good laugh at that, but the fact is, that's exactly who China is starting to resemble. It's at the very beginning stages, but make no mistake, it's happening.

So what minority group is China going to put into death camps?
 

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Its time!!! Russia, ISIS, and China get ready to face the big dawgs!!!! The Americans are ready and its time. Our young kids play Call if Duty. Their fingers are quick and itchy. Haha...

Time for war!
 

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But...American exceptionalism.



So what minority group is China going to put into death camps?

Ask folks from Tibet, Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia how chinese treat them. Oh, you can't, commie china will not let you.
 

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But...American exceptionalism.



So what minority group is China going to put into death camps?

Not necessarily in china proper, and not necessarily in death camps. More like starting the systematic elimination of its immediate and much less powerful neighbors. As soon as China knows it can effectively enable denial of access to US intervention, we will see their ultimate 'long view' plan swing into fuller action.
 
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