chinese/jewish married co-authors say their cultures are the best

JManInPhoenix

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Chua, a law professor at Yale University, and her husband, co-author Jed Rubenfeld, list these groups as the most likely to succeed in America: Jewish, Indian, Chinese, Iranian, Lebanese-Americans, Nigerians, Cuban exiles and Mormons.

For most of those groups you are getting the most affluent of that group immigrating to the US as the poorer members of those groups can't afford the trip & setting up shop in the US that easily. The groups that are already firmly established here, in particular Jewish & Mormon, have a strong sense of community and tend to look after each other rather than cut each others throats.
 

Linflas

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They're just a couple of racist idiots.

Culture does not equal race. People that scream racism every damn time anyone tries to do a study about why different cultures succeed/fail are the single largest roadblock to helping address issues that cause some groups to be left behind rather than succeed.
 
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Oh well. My cultural group will just to be content with owning everything and running everything important.
 

SandEagle

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thank god no.

and I know you know this cuz I've told you this before and you're doing this to try to piss me off. so I'm going to ignore you from now on.

i see. you're a self-hating Indian. why else would you get pissed off if someone asks if you Indian? not hindustani enough after coming to this country?
 
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NetWareHead

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Nothing wrong with a culture that sticks together and helps each other out. Both my GF and I are from families that come from Europe and we are first generation born in this country. The differences I see between Americans and our families is that American kids get cut off ( I know this is a blanket statement that is not wholly true, just my general observations).

European families on the other hand want to help their children as much as possible (again, another blanket statement based on my own observations). Whenever we go and visit our families, I can't think of one time where I have left empty handed. My 86 year old grandmother makes sure we have enough food to take back with us; we end up eating sometimes for 2-3 days on just what she gives us. Its not just food, its also supplies, shampoo, soap, etc etc etc. I go into my basement now, I have enough dish soap to last me for 3 years. Our families are very generous with both of us and in turn we appreciate what we are given. Its not just with material possessions, its with any kind of help. I've taken out loans from my father and paid him back. I'd rather get a no terms and no interest loan from family than have to be in a bank's debt.
 

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EDIT: Seems like they're not consistent with saying "race" or "cultural group." Seems like that's the author's (of the article) fault though, as the book I guess says "cultural group."
She and husband Jed Rubenfeld claim eight cultural groups are most likely to succeed.
Tiger Mom is back with more bold allegations, this time outlining in a new book how eight racial groups are far more superior than the rest of the world.
 
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rh71

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Nothing wrong with a culture that sticks together and helps each other out. Both my GF and I are from families that come from Europe and we are first generation born in this country. The differences I see between Americans and our families is that American kids get cut off ( I know this is a blanket statement that is not wholly true, just my general observations).

I've been generalizing for a very long time that American kids like to leave for freedom as soon as they're 18 or their parents have no hesitation ridding themselves of their offspring either (law aside). Some call it "life experience" (sink or swim) but what's really going on is they're setting themselves up for financial hardship. On top of that they've got school loans to look forward to. Debt - it's the American way. It can be avoided completely so long as you're given an option to remain at home at least until a few years beyond starting a full time job.
 
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steppinthrax

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She is making a statement that most people know about and only talk about among themselves. But when you make a book about it (esp. if you are "putting yourself up"), it's automatically wrong?????

Her indications are true.

Money Income of Families—Median Income by Race and Hispanic
Origin in Current and Constant (2009) Dollars: 1990 to 2009

http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0697.pdf


They are presented almost every single year by the US Census.
 

Rumpltzer

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huh? Her face is crooked.

Yeah, wtf... someone must have punched that woman's mother in the belly when she was in the womb.

So you all are saying that my all black-Mexican think tank and financial consulting service... no bueno?
 

Pray To Jesus

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Yeah, wtf... someone must have punched that woman's mother in the belly when she was in the womb.

So you all are saying that my all black-Mexican think tank and financial consulting service... no bueno?

No, we are not. There are a lot of really smart and successful Blacks and Mexicans. Each populations have their own Gaussian distribution.
 

Via

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She leaves out Koreans?

Does anyone know ANY Korean kids who don't have Engineer/physician/professor parents that make them practice their after school activities 3 hours a day after finishing their homework and attend Korean school all day Saturday?
 

halik

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Nothing wrong with a culture that sticks together and helps each other out. Both my GF and I are from families that come from Europe and we are first generation born in this country. The differences I see between Americans and our families is that American kids get cut off ( I know this is a blanket statement that is not wholly true, just my general observations).

European families on the other hand want to help their children as much as possible (again, another blanket statement based on my own observations). Whenever we go and visit our families, I can't think of one time where I have left empty handed. My 86 year old grandmother makes sure we have enough food to take back with us; we end up eating sometimes for 2-3 days on just what she gives us. Its not just food, its also supplies, shampoo, soap, etc etc etc. I go into my basement now, I have enough dish soap to last me for 3 years. Our families are very generous with both of us and in turn we appreciate what we are given. Its not just with material possessions, its with any kind of help. I've taken out loans from my father and paid him back. I'd rather get a no terms and no interest loan from family than have to be in a bank's debt.

This, you're describing my family dynamic 100%. I'm gonna venture a guess and say you're eastern european - polish, ukrainian or russian.
 

NetWareHead

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This, you're describing my family dynamic 100%. I'm gonna venture a guess and say you're eastern european - polish, ukrainian or russian.

I'm Italian and my GF is Romanian. Its nice to know other families are like this. I always think its amusing how certain ethnic groups will immediately understand our family dynamic (Europeans, Indians, Asians, Arabs, Jews etc...) and usually how Americans won't
 

JManInPhoenix

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I'm Italian and my GF is Romanian. Its nice to know other families are like this. I always think its amusing how certain ethnic groups will immediately understand our family dynamic (Europeans, Indians, Asians, Arabs, Jews etc...) and usually how Americans won't

The sense of family in all of these groups is great. It's too bad American society as a whole isnt more like this - my wife worked with a lady that put her mother in a nursing home (against her will) then moved into her house.
 
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