Chinese Money Launderers Fueling Our Fentanyl Crisis

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"... the alleged offences are part of a process where over the past decade Chinese organised crime groups have moved in to launder the earnings of the Mexican cartels.The money laundering groups are made up of networks of Chinese nationals living in the US and Mexico as well as individuals in China."

^^^ Plenty of blame to go 'round, though, starting with our own domestic habits and policies.
 
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BoomerD

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From what I've read over the years, nearly 100% of the illegal...fentanyl and carfentanyl comes from China to Mexico to the USA. I suspect most of the legal fentanyl comes from Chinese labs as well. They make a HUGE percentage of the legal pharmaceuticals in this country.
 

Meghan54

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From what I've read over the years, nearly 100% of the illegal...fentanyl and carfentanyl comes from China to Mexico to the USA. I suspect most of the legal fentanyl comes from Chinese labs as well. They make a HUGE percentage of the legal pharmaceuticals in this country.
From the figures I’ve read, only about 6% of pharmaceuticals (legal obviously) come from China. 55% are U.S. created. 2019/2020 figures.

 
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BoomerD

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From the figures I’ve read, only about 6% of pharmaceuticals (legal obviously) come from China. 55% are U.S. created. 2019/2020 figures.

 
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Some notable quotes since its clear you didn't actually read the article you linked.
While the Department of Defense only purchases a small quantity of finished pharmaceuticals from China, about 80 percent of the active pharmaceutical ingredients (APIs) used to make drugs in the United States are said to come from China and other countries like India.
Moreover, we could have overestimated our dependence on Chinese-made pharmaceutical products. As of 2018, China claimed 13.4 percent of all import lines– defined as distinct regulated products within a shipment through customs–among countries that export drugs and biologics to the United States. Of these import lines for drugs and biologics, about 83 percent were finished drugs, and only 7.5 percent were APIs. We certainly underestimate the share of APIs from China given that Chinese-made APIs can come to the United States as part of the finished drug products from other countries like India. However, the lack of a reliable API registry makes it difficult to estimate the true market share of Chinese-made APIs.

They don't have any actual data. Also, it just happens to include the entire rest of the world. Which, uh, yeah, no shit, when the US doesn't really produce raw shit itself and imports it to process. And even that's only for some products (oil and apparently pharmaceuticals). That's the double edged sword of reaping the rewards of being a global superpower, you end up depending on other countries when you exploit them for their resources instead of using your own to make the stuff.

I don't really have an issue with the author's argument (they're the one admitting there isn't actual data for this which is kinda a problem on its own), and ultimately they're trying to stop the alarmism about China (and instead work with them), so if that was your takeaway from the article you very very obviously did not read it.
 
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BoomerD

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Some notable quotes since its clear you didn't actually read the article you linked.



They don't have any actual data. Also, it just happens to include the entire rest of the world. Which, uh, yeah, no shit, when the US doesn't really produce raw shit itself and imports it to process. And even that's only for some products (oil and apparently pharmaceuticals). That's the double edged sword of reaping the rewards of being a global superpower, you end up depending on other countries when you exploit them for their resources instead of using your own to make the stuff.

I don't really have an issue with the author's argument (they're the one admitting there isn't actual data for this which is kinda a problem on its own), and ultimately they're trying to stop the alarmism about China (and instead work with them), so if that was your takeaway from the article you very very obviously did not read it.

about 80 percent of the active pharmaceutical ingredients (APIs) used to make drugs in the United States are said to come from China and other countries like India.
 
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