[Chiploco] 780ti specifications leaked: in between 780 and Titan, 2496 cores

[ams23]

Those TPU "specs" have been posted on their site for a while now, and are probably just a placeholder for the real thing. And no, it is very unlikely that Titan will retain the single GPU gaming crown other than for very extreme corner cases where > 3GB RAM is required. It is pretty clear from the Montreal event that GTX 780 Ti is the fastest and best gaming GPU that NVIDIA has ever built (in fact, NVIDIA claims that it will be the fastest gaming GPU ever built period, but we will see about that).

 

[blackened23]

That GPuZ shot is a fake so we still don't know what's in the Ti but it has to be faster than the 290x, I'm sure NV knows by now better than any of us the capabilities of the 290x. So they have no chance but release a faster card than Titan slightly more expensive than the 290x.

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2512/geforce-gtx-780-ti.html

That's not a GPU-Z screenshot that was linked. It is in TPU's GPU database.

 

[hawtdawg]

My money is still on a 2880SP part with 3 gigs sans DP support. I also wouldn't be surprised to see 7ghz vram.

 

[Grooveriding]

Those TPU "specs" have been posted on their site for a while now, and are probably just a placeholder for the real thing. And no, it is very unlikely that Titan will retain the single GPU gaming crown other than for very extreme corner cases where > 3GB RAM is required. It is pretty clear from the Montreal event that GTX 780 Ti is the fastest and best gaming GPU that NVIDIA has ever built (in fact, NVIDIA claims that it will be the fastest gaming GPU ever built period, but we will see about that).

They were added a few days ago Just breathe. I'm sure the 780ti will be a decent card even with these specs. Just not much better than a 780 is all.

 

[ams23]

My money is still on a 2880SP part with 3 gigs sans DP support. I also wouldn't be surprised to see 7ghz vram.

Do you remember the 7800 GTX 512MB edition launch soon after the X1800 XT came out? I can't help but think that this GTX 780 Ti launch will be similar (minus the RAM increase of course, and assuming that GTX 780 Ti's GK110 die is not cut down too much): http://www.anandtech.com/show/1861

 

[RussianSensation]

Do you remember the 7800 GTX 512MB edition launch soon after the X1800 XT came out? I can't help but think that this GTX 780 Ti launch will be similar (minus the RAM increase of course, and assuming that GTX 780 Ti's GK110 die is not cut down too much): http://www.anandtech.com/show/1861

Nope. 7800GTX 512MB was 24% faster on average than X1800XT. Right now R9 290X is > 10% faster than GTX780. 780Ti would need to be 30-35% faster than 780 and for this to be similar to 7800 GTX 512mb vs. X1800XT. All that for $649? Not happening.

 

[AdamK47]

My money is still on a 2880SP part with 3 gigs sans DP support. I also wouldn't be surprised to see 7ghz vram.

I would be willing to bet against that.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

I would be willing to bet against that.

You may have a personal bias though

Would you dump your Titans for a fully enabled gaming GK110 chip with aftermarket coolers? :hmm:

 

[Gikaseixas]

Nvidia will offload the unnecessary stuff, bump up clocks, make sure it beats 290X and call it a day.
Some website sent them test results already and they're just adjusting clock speeds to make sure it's ahead of AMD. You heard it first here

 

[AdamK47]

You may have a personal bias though

Would you dump your Titans for a fully enabled gaming GK110 chip with aftermarket coolers? :hmm:

I'd get 2880sp GK110s. I would only use them with a cooler that exhausts out of the back of the case, so most likely without an aftermarket cooler.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Yeah I forgot you had tri, no real option besides water or reference. I was going to edit but figured you'd correct me anyways.

I have to ask though, why not use a custom loop with that monster setup?

 

[AdamK47]

I upgrade too much to make any one system worth the cost and the hassle. I'm also content with mild overclocks.

 

[ams23]

Nope

You are missing the point. When X1800 XT launched, it was faster than 7800 GTX in some instances (excluding OpenGL of course). 7800 GTX 512 launched soon after and convincingly took back the overall performance crown. I expect GTX 780 Ti to do the same (even if the differences are not as dramatic as before), all while consuming less power and being quieter and cooler than R9 290X. Anyway, we will find out within the next two or three weeks.

 

[ams23]

And FWIW, my guess is that GTX 780 Ti will have at least 2688 CUDA "cores". The GPUz screenshot referenced in the original post was faked according to some other forums.

 

[blackened23]

And FWIW, my guess is that GTX 780 Ti will have at least 2688 CUDA "cores". The GPUz screenshot referenced in the original post was faked according to some other forums.

It's in TPU's GPU database which is required to be uploaded from a physical card. Therefore the chance of being a fake is slim - nothing in their database has been faked that I've heard of. It could be a NV oem card or something perhaps with maybe a real 780ti having a higher core count, who knows.

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2512/geforce-gtx-780-ti.html

A higher core count is possible but I dont' see it unless NV discontinues the current Titan. As i've mentioned it throws their entire product stack awry with a cheaper higher performing product - I do see 780ti (stock clocks/reference cooling) performing close to par with Titan or within 2% at a lower price point, but not faster. Pretty stupid from a business perspective, but we'll see I guess.

You guys understand that Titan (allegedly, according to leaks) still retains the single GPU crown, right? It's by the slimmest of margins - like 1% over the 290X while trading blows, let's say Titan wins 55-60%. While the 290X beats the 780 outright by 11% at 1080p (again, according to leaks). Single GPU crown retained anyway, so it's not like NV needs a 2880 core halo part. All the better to just focus on Maxwell for release next year.

 

[ams23]

It was already confirmed as fake by the person who did it as far as I know.

As I mentioned earlier, Titan is not marketed as a pure gaming card, and was never meant to maximize perf. per dollar for pure gaming purposes (and in fact was easily eclipsed by GTX 780 SC a long time ago in that area).

My bet is still on 2688 or more CUDA "cores" operating at some unknown frequency.

 

[blackened23]

It was already confirmed as fake by the person who did it as far as I know.

As far as you know? As far as I know, releasing a SKU that is higher performing and cheaper is completely stupid from a business perspective. That might have happened once in history but this isn't something that corporations generally do, unless they want to discontinue or don't care about the higher priced SKU. Anyway, you could go on to explain the GPU upload into TPU's database, perhaps, which has never been faked. It isn't a screenshot. It's an upload from an actual physical card.

I'm not saying a higher core TI can't happen, it could be Nvidia with a lower core count OEM 780ti card (this has happened a lot for Dell and others) while a real ti could have a higher core count. That is plausible. We'll see in 2 weeks or so like you said.

 

[ams23]

Yes, as far as I know it is faked. The link to another forum discussing it is floating around somewhere here or at B3D.

 

[AdamK47]

The discussions about it being fake is fake.

 

[Grooveriding]

Makes sense to me. They'll release GK110 with the extra 2496 cores as 780ti, price it at $650 to try and compete against 290X's performance. Titan is not a viable competitor due to its exorbitant $1000 pricetag and early benches already show 290X beating it out.

So a 780ti with another 10% on 780 from the extra SMX and higher clocks will generally perform like a Titan. Win some benches against 290X at 1080p, probably lose across the board at 1440p and higher, but still manage to retain the $650 price tag.

Then drop the 780 to $550 or thereabouts to compete against the 290. That or $600 for the 780ti and $500 for the 780, but doubtful from nvidia. Probably $650/$550 against the $600/$500 pricing of AMD's new cards.

 

[ams23]

Makes sense to me. They'll release GK110 with the extra 2496 cores as 780ti, price it at $650 to try and compete against 290X's performance.

Well no, that doesn't make sense because the $659 GTX 780 SC has been available for many months now and already will easily compete with R9 290X in terms of performance. GTX 780 Ti will be a step up in performance for sure.

 

[Grooveriding]

Well no, that doesn't make sense because the $659 GTX 780 SC has been available for many months now and already will easily compete with R9 290X in terms of performance. GTX 780 Ti will be a step up in performance for sure.

Makes fine sense, just like there is a 780 SC, there will be a 780ti SC. The specs make sense because they'll want to protect Titan's $1000 premium.

No doubt we will see a Titan-ti at some point with 2880cores and higher clocks for $1200+ or some such madness. But for now this will let them show a more reasonably priced card that can actually win a few benchmarks against 290X, which the 780 pretty much can't, and then move down the pricing of the 780 to compete against the vanilla 290. They don't think in terms of aftermarket cards, it's how their reference cards match up.

Sure is a silly card in my opinion, as the difference between 780, 780ti and Titan is going to be so hard to decipher it will probably come down to which card can overclock better than the other in the overclock lottery. But a necessary one because the 780 falls behind the 290X.

 

[AdamK47]

Well no, that doesn't make sense because the $659 GTX 780 SC has been available for many months now and already will easily compete with R9 290X in terms of performance. GTX 780 Ti will be a step up in performance for sure.

nVidia does not make a GTX 780 SC. You're comparing a 3rd party overclocked card to the reference 290X.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

To be fair Nvidia generally doesn't make GTX 780s either.

 

[n0x1ous]

Sure is a silly card in my opinion, as the difference between 780, 780ti and Titan is going to be so hard to decipher it will probably come down to which card can overclock better than the other in the overclock lottery. But a necessary one because the 780 falls behind the 290X.

If this is the 24XX core count part then I absolutely agree. I don't understand why they cant just phase the titan out. They need to do 2880 core 7ghz 780 ti or don't bother