[Chiploco] 780ti specifications leaked: in between 780 and Titan, 2496 cores

[Crap Daddy]

I think that at 1080p and 1440 the 290X will be within a few frames up or down compared to Titan largely depending on the game selection. More or less a tie. This means the 780 will be anywhere between 8 and 15% below. In order to reclaim the top spot, debatable because it will depend on so many factors, Nvidia needs to put out a 780Ti which is faster than Titan with at least 5%. Question is, are those specs enough? A 780 running slightly above 1Ghz is a Titan. 2496 sp running at 1Ghz might bring those percentages needed into play. But it's an insane game of getting just a few frames more. Maybe this GPUz is fake and we are talking BS.

 

[blackened23]

I think that at 1080p and 1440 the 290X will be within a few frames up or down compared to Titan largely depending on the game selection. More or less a tie. This means the 780 will be anywhere between 8 and 15% below. In order to reclaim the top spot, debatable because it will depend on so many factors, Nvidia needs to put out a 780Ti which is faster than Titan with at least 5%. Question is, are those specs enough? A 780 running slightly above 1Ghz is a Titan. 2496 sp running at 1Ghz might bring those percentages needed into play. But it's an insane game of getting just a few frames more. Maybe this GPUz is fake and we are talking BS.

Technically speaking, Titan still retains the single GPU crown based on leaks - so if that performance is brought down to a reasonable price at stock clocks and reference cooling, then the single GPU crown just got more reasonable in price. The entire problem with Titan is not "single GPU crown". The problem is price, I really think that's what NV is fighting with respect to the 290X. Let's say the 290X trades with Titan and costs 600$. That would make the Titan look really stupid (moreso than aftermarket 780s already do), but if they bring that performance down to 650$, all is well again.

I think last I saw the Titan was winning 60% of benchmarks based on leaks, enough to retain the crown. So I think the strategy is to bring that level of performance to a GTX 780 price. The best part is if the 780 lowers in price by 50 bucks or so, that would put tons of aftermarket 780s in the 600$ or so range. That could put the 290X in a tough spot and make it a tough choice for GPU purchasers, it would look like this, theoretically:

290X, 600$, trades with Titan, free BF4
Overclocked aftermarket GTX 780, 610$-620$, same performance as 290X, 3 free games
Reference GTX 780, 600$, 10% less than 290X at 1080p, 3 free games

So my main question is what price will the vanilla 780 be after all is said and done..

 

[Grooveriding]

The main problem with Titan is it only being available in reference form. Put out a Titan Classified and you'd have a beast of a card.

It seems like GK110 doesn't make huge gains as they unlock additional shaders. Another 100Mhz on a 780 gives you stock Titan. How much more would that last SMX give Titan, 5% ? My cards are a bit faster than my 1200/1150 Titan SLI setup was, somewhere between 5 and 10% I'd say on synthetic benchmarks.

I guess we will see Titan-ti soon with 2880 shaders for $1500, comes with a bottle of K-Y to help ease it in.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

I'd be down for a $1500 Titan Ti if instead of KY it came with a vial Jen-Hsun spit.

 

[Crap Daddy]

On a second look, shouldn't be the texture fillrate something like GPU clock * TMUs? Like
902*208 which is = 187 GTexel/s? Such a blatant fake? Or am I wrong?

 

[BallaTheFeared]

On a second look, shouldn't be the texture fillrate something like GPU clock * TMUs? Like
902*208 which is = 187 GTexel/s? Such a blatant fake? Or am I wrong?

Good catch, it is starting to look more and more like AMD viral marketing ()

 

[Grooveriding]

Up on techpowerup

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2512/geforce-gtx-780-ti.html

 

[3DVagabond]

I don't see the point of a new SKU. All of these cards, from 290(non X) up should give virtually the same gaming experience once O/C'd.

 

[ams23]

I'm with Balla. This is either fake or Nvidia is going full retard (in a bad way).

While specs of GTX 780 Ti are unknown, what is known is that it would make no sense to release a GTX 780 Ti if it were not faster than GTX 780 OC edition. So I would speculate that GTX 780 Ti is significantly faster than GTX 780 and also faster than GTX 780 OC editions. Other things we know is that GTX 780 Ti will be very fast, cool, quiet, and have relatively low power consumption. The performance per watt should be significantly better than R9 290X.

 

[3DVagabond]

While specs of GTX 780 Ti are unknown, what is known is that it would make no sense to release a GTX 780 Ti if it were not faster than GTX 780 OC edition. So I would speculate that GTX 780 Ti is significantly faster than GTX 780 and also faster than GTX 780 OC editions. One thing we know for sure is that GTX 780 Ti will be very fast, cool, quiet, and have relatively low power consumption. The performance per watt should be significantly better than R9 290X.

You know all of this, do you?

 

[BallaTheFeared]

I'd laugh so hard if it is true, still in no way confirmation but at least that page has the correct fill unlike the screen cap of gpuz.

 

[ams23]

You know all of this, do you?

Well this is all just speculation of course. As far as I know, reviewers have not even received GTX 780 Ti yet. We will find out soon enough though.

On a side note, it appears that recently released Geforce drivers will provide a nice performance boost across a variety of different games (including Dirt: Showdown, Metro Last Light, Sleeping Dogs), and will have support for BF4 and Batman Arkham Origins.

 

[Sheninat0r]

While specs of GTX 780 Ti are unknown, what is known is that it would make no sense to release a GTX 780 Ti if it were not faster than GTX 780 OC edition. So I would speculate that GTX 780 Ti is significantly faster than GTX 780 and also faster than GTX 780 OC editions. Other things we know is that GTX 780 Ti will be very fast, cool, quiet, and have relatively low power consumption. The performance per watt should be significantly better than R9 290X.

Based on my reliable sources, AMD's next GPU will be the 390x and run at 9,000,000,000 exaflops quadruple precision floating point and have a texture fill rate of 500,000,000 yottatexels per second. It will consume 0.00000001 yoctowatts of power require no heatsink or cooling of any sort. It will plug into USB with no drivers and suffer no performance penalty from this.

 

[Grooveriding]

Thanks for lettuce gnomes.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

390x sounds like it will be well outside my comfort zone when it comes to price which ironically was not listed.

 

[Vesku]

Up on techpowerup

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2512/geforce-gtx-780-ti.html

Launch Price: 699 USD

Must be a placeholder.

 

[ams23]

Based on my reliable sources blah blah blah

There is such a thing as common sense when it comes to speculation. Some very basic info has been given about GTX 780 Ti in Montreal about the card being fast, quiet, cool, and low power consumption (in addition to being the best NVIDIA gaming GPU ever built) but no specs were released yet. Now, if you look at the history of Geforce cards, there has always been a significant difference in performance between a non-Ti and a Ti variant. Put two and two together, look at the competitive threat, look at what can be achieved with full GK110 in Quadro K6000, and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that GTX 780 Ti will be very potent.

 

[blackened23]

Up on techpowerup

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2512/geforce-gtx-780-ti.html

Half Life 3 confirmed! I guess TPU are viral marketers.

 

[blackened23]

While specs of GTX 780 Ti are unknown, what is known is that it would make no sense to release a GTX 780 Ti if it were not faster than GTX 780 OC edition. So I would speculate that GTX 780 Ti is significantly faster than GTX 780 and also faster than GTX 780 OC editions. Other things we know is that GTX 780 Ti will be very fast, cool, quiet, and have relatively low power consumption. The performance per watt should be significantly better than R9 290X.

So you're essentially saying a reference cooled, stock clocked 780TI will be faster than Titan in a reference cooled, stock clocked version while costing 350$ less. If you say so. This still cracks me up when anyone ever thought that a 2880 core GK110 would be released for 650$ while the Titan stayed as-is at 1000$. That sounds like a sound business strategy (by sound business strategy I really mean, completely idiotic) of overlapping a higher SKU with a cheaper higher performing one. This would throw their entire product stack off in terms of price and performance. And before you say, "professional applications", the Titan does not replicate Quadro functionality and does not support 10 bit color output for video/photo editing on adobe suite. It doesn't replicate quadro in 3DS max, among other apps either, so that isn't a price justification for Titan. Basically, Titan performance is being moved down to a lower price bracket, that's the way I predict things will happen. I've mentioned all of this before, though.

 

[ams23]

So you're essentially saying 780TI will be faster than Titan in a reference cooled, stock clocked version while costing 350$ less. LOL. If you say so, that sounds like a sound business strategy of overlapping a higher SKU with a cheaper higher performing one.

For gaming, yes. For general purpose GPU computing, no. That doesn't mean much because the GTX 780 OC edition is already faster than Titan for gaming purposes, with a price that is $340 lower in comparison. Titan also came out many months ago and has 6GB RAM onboard.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

So you're essentially saying a reference cooled, stock clocked 780TI will be faster than Titan in a reference cooled, stock clocked version while costing 350$ less. If you say so.

Without 1/3 DP, why would that be hard to believe?

 

[Crap Daddy]

JHH said the fastest gaming GPU ever built, not clear if by NVidia or in general, so be sure it will surpass Titan in gaming.

 

[blackened23]

For gaming, yes. For general purpose GPU computing, no. That doesn't mean much because the GTX 780 OC edition is already faster than Titan for gaming purposes, with a price that is $340 lower in comparison. Titan also came out many months ago and has 6GB RAM onboard.

Titan for all intents and purposes can only be used for CUDA development, which any 780 can as well. It does not replicate Quadro functionality in applications that matter nor does it support 10 bit color in adobe suite. So this isn't a valid price justification for the Titan, although 6GB of VRAM is a partial justification. Basically NV is bringing that same performance down to a more reasonable level with 3 GB of VRAM. But the Titan and Quadro are very, very different in terms of a professional applications context. The Titan is a valid purchase for CUDA development, but not for professional applications - there is still a massive rift between Geforce Titan and Quadro for those types of apps.

 

[blackened23]

JHH said the fastest gaming GPU ever built, not clear if by NVidia or in general, so be sure it will surpass Titan in gaming.

If this is faster than Titan, which looks doubtful unless there are tons of aftermarket varieties. Aftermarket 780s fill that niche anyway, though:

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2512/geforce-gtx-780-ti.html

I've said it before, Titan technically should still hold the single GPU crown. So why would nvidia go out of their way to create a new 2880 core SKU to do that? All the while making their product stack irrelevant by having a cheaper and faster SKU. That makes no sense, and "professional applications" is not valid either for reasons mentioned above. The 780ti will bring near Titan performance to a 290X competitive price. Single GPU crown is not Titan's problem. Price is the problem . That problem will be fixed with the 780ti, seems pretty obvious to me that this is the case when the 290X trades with Titan. Again, Titan will retain the single GPU crown by the ever so slimmest of margins so NV doesn't need a new SKU for that purpose. What they need is a new SKU that has Titan performance at a GTX 780 cost level, since 290X trades with the Titan.

 

[Crap Daddy]

If this is faster than Titan, which looks doubtful unless there are tons of aftermarket varieties. Aftermarket 780s fill that niche anyway, though:

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2512/geforce-gtx-780-ti.html

I've said it before, Titan technically should still hold the single GPU crown. So why would nvidia go out of their way to create a new 2880 core SKU to do that? All the while making their product stack irrelevant by having a cheaper and faster SKU. That makes no sense, and "professional applications" is not valid either for reasons mentioned above. The 780ti will bring near Titan performance to a 290X competitive price. Single GPU crown is not Titan's problem. Price is the problem. That problem will be fixed with the 780ti, seems pretty obvious to me that this is the case when the 290X trades with Titan.

That GPuZ shot is a fake so we still don't know what's in the Ti but it has to be faster than the 290x, I'm sure NV knows by now better than any of us the capabilities of the 290x. So they have no chance but release a faster card than Titan slightly more expensive than the 290x.