chiropractor: should I?

[Fritzo]

Asking ATOT for medical advice is like asking the beggar under the bridge to fix the nuclear reactor on the Nimitz.

I've had positive experience with my chiropractor and I've noticed marked improvement since I started in early March. Its not a cure all, nothing is, but the blanket attitude by the tards in this forum, who have the medical training of a hamster, is irritating.

OP, try the chiropractor, don't let the children on ATOT deter you.

What if the beggar is an out-of-work nuclear engineer that lost his job due to using a racial slur?

 

[Bateluer]

What if the beggar is an out-of-work nuclear engineer that lost his job due to using a racial slur?

A nuclear engineer who lost their job wouldn't have any problems getting another job.

 

[Redfraggle]

If you trust the person, try it out. Don't agree to anything you aren't comfortable with. I see a chiro, and she's great. We saw another one in the area who is a fucking moron and a crook who, as far as I could tell, had no damn idea what he was doing. I don't use the TENS unit or get on the traction table. But I go and I get adjusted, and my back and hips are a lot happier for it. Lugging around a toddler in combination with some remaining issues from birth/pregnancy make me very glad I have this chiro. I've had to see one other in the office, and she was great also. I've thrown my back out a couple of times, and always had immediate relief from them. So, for me, it works -- but you have to find a good one.

 

[Fritzo]

A nuclear engineer who lost their job wouldn't have any problems getting another job.

What is it was a really really bad racial slur and it was so bad that it was on the news, and then the whole world hated him for what he said?

 

[sixone]

(j) so do i trust the chiro for now? I have a follow up in a week to assess x rays i took...for now I'm thinking potentially yes so as long as I can rationally understand it; i just don't want to hear sublixations as the problems for everything

still probably is tldr

Sounds like your bullshit detector is functioning properly, so you aren't risking much by giving it a shot.

If you aren't comfortable with her, find a different chiro. A DO would be fine, too.

 

[Wag]

http://www.chirobase.org/

Check out the Quackwatch's Chirobase and you'll know to save your money. I went for a year, didn't get any relief from back pain whatsoever.

 

[Mo0o]

http://www.chirobase.org/

Check out the Quackwatch's Chirobase and you'll know to save your money. I went for a year, didn't get any relief from back pain whatsoever.

Assuming you did get pain relief, would you keep going?

 

[CurseTheSky]

It's something that I would consider trying, but not something that I would ever let anyone - especially their own staff - push me into. I call the shots, and if I say stop, they'd better jump back.

I do believe that a number of muscle, join, nerve, etc. problems can be fixed through physical manipulation. Some of that is as easy as rubbing the muscles in the back of your neck to loosen them when you get a tension headache. However, it's dangerously easy to do some serious damage if you move your neck or back the wrong way, and I have a very hard time trusting anyone to do it for me.

In a nutshell, if they're pushy, I'm out. If they really have a "want to help people" attitude, I might consider it.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Look, the fact is that the science is in on chiropractic. If you continue to believe that it's not total bullshit then it serves only to prove that you're about as stupid and anti-science as those who don't believe in evolution or the big bang theory.

 

[Mo0o]

Look, the fact is that the science is in on chiropractic. If you continue to believe that it's not total bullshit then it serves only to prove that you're about as stupid and anti-science as those who don't believe in evolution or the big bang theory.

Even if it is placebo effect, if thats the only way they can get pain relief, what's the harm in doing it. If you avoid the cervical spine the complication rate is very low. Theres alot of literature that says it doesnt work but then there are people with first hand experience that says it does. If the OP has explored everything conventional medicine has to offer, what is the big deal in trying chiro.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Theres alot of literature that says it doesnt work but then there are people with first hand experience that says it does.

Anecdotal evidence is worthless. I don't care how many anecdotes there are, it's worthless. You can stack cow shit as high as you like, at the end of the day you still have a pile of shit. The science is in. Either continue believing in nonsense like a silly creationist is join the real world.

 

[Mo0o]

Anecdotal evidence is worthless. I don't care how many anecdotes there are, it's worthless. You can stack cow shit as high as you like, at the end of the day you still have a pile of shit. The science is in. Either continue believing in nonsense like a silly creationist is join the real world.

You can argue the chiro doesnt fix anything, and that the data says its all a sham. But when youre looking at a patient face to face and theyre telling you their every 3 month chiro adjustment gives them significant relief from their chronic back pain, you'll actually tell them to stop? Even if its just placebo, if that patient needs to have someone lay hands on their back, what's the problem.

The problem I have with alternative medicine is when they try to replace conventional medicine at the detriment of the patient. Examples would be a cancer patient that thinks homeopathic remedies will cause tumor regression.

 

[nanette1985]

Anecdotal evidence is worthless. I don't care how many anecdotes there are, it's worthless. You can stack cow shit as high as you like, at the end of the day you still have a pile of shit. The science is in. Either continue believing in nonsense like a silly creationist is join the real world.

Each of us is an anecdote.

 

[Gibsons]

You can argue the chiro doesnt fix anything, and that the data says its all a sham. But when youre looking at a patient face to face and theyre telling you their every 3 month chiro adjustment gives them significant relief from their chronic back pain, you'll actually tell them to stop? Even if its just placebo, if that patient needs to have someone lay hands on their back, what's the problem.

The problem I have with alternative medicine is when they try to replace conventional medicine at the detriment of the patient. Examples would be a cancer patient that thinks homeopathic remedies will cause tumor regression.

There are anecdotes out there about people being 'cured' through homeopathy, reflexology or well, anything. At what point do you force yourself to call bs, even if you think people are benefiting from the placebo?

 

[Bateluer]

Anecdotal evidence is worthless. I don't care how many anecdotes there are, it's worthless. You can stack cow shit as high as you like, at the end of the day you still have a pile of shit. The science is in. Either continue believing in nonsense like a silly creationist is join the real world.

This is the attitude I was referring to, blind stupidity.

With 'modern' medicine can only offer you pain killers and alternatives offer relief or fix the problem, you'd actually tell the patient to stick with the harsh painkillers? Maybe you should join the real world.

 

[Wag]

Assuming you did get pain relief, would you keep going?

I probably would, but now I know better. People would literally be crawling into his office, desperate for relief (I was one of them) - the guy clearly was taking advantage of people.

Not only that but the guy did chiro on dogs too (in the same office). Some people are just begging to get taken.

 

[Bignate603]

Call it what you will, but acupuncture and other traditional remidies have been helping people for over 5000 years. I work in healthcare, I see the poisons we prescribe as medicines these days. Anything I can do to avoid it, I will.

And how long were people practicing blood letting? Just because people have been doing something for thousands of years doesn't mean that it does anything.

 

[Bateluer]

And how long were people practicing blood letting? Just because people have been doing something for thousands of years doesn't mean that it does anything.

And quite a few 'ancient' medical technologies were found to actually be useful, in the right circumstances. Maggots to clean dead flesh from a wound, for example, and leeches have valid uses too. Acupuncture has been around for thousands of years, because it works for people.

 

[surfsatwerk]

And how long were people practicing blood letting? Just because people have been doing something for thousands of years doesn't mean that it does anything.

Like other people have stated I find the idea of being hooked on pain pills the rest of my life to be distasteful. I viewed the acupuncture and chiro as just an alternative to my medical doctor's plan of dope and inactivity to fix my back.

Of course I went to a chiro with a background in physical therapy, I'm not a complete hippy.

 

[SandEagle]

lolopractors
chiroflpractors

i just made those up now

 

[Arkaign]

Well, fwiw :

I was riding in my GF's car, and we were struck by a hit and run driver in Jan '10. Guy hit us at about 35mph or so, was a pretty solid hit. My neck and back were in pretty poor shape, got X-rays, was told to rest, got physical therapy, and things kind of stabilized, but I was definitely worse off than before the accident. My older brother referred me to a Chiropractor in Frisco, and after a few visits I was better than before. I had sustained some back injury back in '01-'03 working at a furniture outlet, and anyway, got a whole lot better after a few visits/adjustments.

My 2 cents. The guy was the only chiro I've ever been to, but it worked great for me personally.

 

[DrPizza]

Look, the fact is that the science is in on chiropractic. If you continue to believe that it's not total bullshit then it serves only to prove that you're about as stupid and anti-science as those who don't believe in evolution or the big bang theory.

You keep repeating this, but it's wrong. Chiropractic care has been shown to be as effective as traditional medicine for treatment of back pain.
http://journals.lww.com/spinejourna...ffectiveness_Analysis_of_Chiropractic.15.aspx

http://journals.lww.com/spinejourna..._Follow_up_Comparison_of_the_Cost_and.16.aspx
(which says, more or less, that it works for some people and doesn't for others.)
http://ukpmc.ac.uk/abstract/MED/9272472/reload=0;jsessionid=F7641BFCE5A03B4E5878FD8A6E3A3BFD.jvm4
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8775024

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

You keep repeating this, but it's wrong. Chiropractic care has been shown to be as effective as traditional medicine for treatment of back pain.
http://journals.lww.com/spinejourna...ffectiveness_Analysis_of_Chiropractic.15.aspx

http://journals.lww.com/spinejourna..._Follow_up_Comparison_of_the_Cost_and.16.aspx
(which says, more or less, that it works for some people and doesn't for others.)
http://ukpmc.ac.uk/abstract/MED/9272472/reload=0;jsessionid=F7641BFCE5A03B4E5878FD8A6E3A3BFD.jvm4
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8775024

Op isn't going for back pain?

 

[TheVrolok]

You can argue the chiro doesnt fix anything, and that the data says its all a sham. But when youre looking at a patient face to face and theyre telling you their every 3 month chiro adjustment gives them significant relief from their chronic back pain, you'll actually tell them to stop? Even if its just placebo, if that patient needs to have someone lay hands on their back, what's the problem.

The problem I have with alternative medicine is when they try to replace conventional medicine at the detriment of the patient. Examples would be a cancer patient that thinks homeopathic remedies will cause tumor regression.

This should be /thread for all the chiro threads that pop up. If pt walks into a chiro with pain, and walks out with pain relief and no detriment to the pt, then who the fuck cares?

 

[Mo0o]

There are anecdotes out there about people being 'cured' through homeopathy, reflexology or well, anything. At what point do you force yourself to call bs, even if you think people are benefiting from the placebo?

If you read what I have said before, I would never advocate going to a alternative medicine practitioner over a MD, but if conventional medicine has no other option, what's the harm in giving it a shot? These things are not particularly expensive and often times are covered by insurance. Patients dont care why/how it works as long as it works. I can tell you this, it is pretty much impossible to convince a patient, who perceives himself as getting pain relief, to stop going to a chiropractor. If a homeopathic doc starts telling my patients he can treat their HIV with some joojoo water, we'll have a very seirous conversation. But if a patient says his generalized anxiety is somehow kept undercontorl by monthly acupuncture, then by all means go right ahead. God knows the meds I have for you carry a ton of sideffects and might make your wallet lighter than the acupuncturist.