chiropractor

[DrPizza]

Been having a LOT of headaches lately... all starting from the back of my neck/lower head area. Went to the doctor for an apparently related issue (blood pressure was up from stress one day) - the headaches were stress related.

Decided to give the chiropractor a shot. He cracked a few bones here and there, and then worked on my neck for a couple of minutes. He touched one spot on my neck and said "I'll bet this spot right here has been giving you headaches, huh?" Wow - Bingo! That was the exact center of them.

Woke up today, felt like a champ. No headache when waking for the first time in weeks. Slept really comfortably too - I had been blaming the bed and the pillow.

:thumbsup: to chiropractors (at least to mine)

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

I'm glad you had a good experience...I won't start my tirade against them just yet.

 

[Wag]

Can I start?

I've been suffering chronic headache/back-pain for over a decade. MD at a highly respected pain clinic sent me to a chiropractor. I had back surgery 10yrs earlier and chiropractor was well aware of that.

He agressively cracked my back for almost 10mos. I hadn't had a back-spasm for over 10yrs until I went to the chiropractor, and my hip started locking up, something which never happened before!

What a scam! People who are desperate are going to this asshat, and he gladly takes their money.

Chiropracty is a joke. It's right up there with crystals and reiki.

 

[DrPizza]

We have at least half a dozen chiropractors in my small city of 15,000. The one I go to is the only one I would ever go to.
There are too many of them who are quacks. But, had you felt my neck before I went in and after I got out, you'd have noticed that there was a little bump there before, and now it's really smooth. This guy knows his stuff.

 

[Wag]

You say that now, but you didn't have a serious problem, and most of it is faith healing. Once my back went into spasm I lost all faith in the guy, and it was pointless.

Keep going to the guy for a year when you're in misery. Let the guy tell you how he can cure skin problems, and the flu. He said he was going to make my back problems go away, all the while taking thousands of dollars and producing only more pain.

Yes, he was able to relieve my back-spasm, but he was the cause of it to begin with.

He did dogs too. No joke.

A real, repsected MD of a big hospital sent me to this guy.

 

[DrPizza]

I'll agree that the chiropractors who seriously believe they can fight the flu, sore throat, etc. with chiropraxis are delusional.

But for the problem I was having, he did a great job. I haven't heard of anyone having problems after going to him, but have heard of people having problems after going to other chiropractors. I think one thing that helps him is his size - he's got the strength to do what he does efficiently. There's a female chiropractor near me who I highly doubt could have exerted the pressure he did without physically beating on me, or wrenching things back and forth.

I went to him 2 years ago - no headaches for months after that visit. So far, it's been 1 day free of headaches. I'll see how it goes longer term. Hopefully I end up kicking the 4 tylenol and/or 2 excedrin migraine a day habit.

 

[cavemanmoron]

kool,

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

You got what you wanted, that's awesome

Even if a lot of it is phsycological, it can still be worth the money you paid

 

[The Sauce]

In the last week I have seen 2 people in the ER who had just come from the chiropractor. One of them wound up completely paralyzed from a spinal cord hematoma and the other had a stroke from a carotid artery embolism...that's just in one week. No chiropractor for me, thanks.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
You got what you wanted, that's awesome

Even if a lot of it is phsycological, it can still be worth the money you paid

paid money?? My health insurance covers it. Didn't cost me a penny.
$10 copay, but one of my other benefits is an account that covers up to $500 in copays, eyeglasses, etc. - unreimbursed medical expenses. I don't think it's psychological either. Most of the stuff he did - realigned my hip, and a couple of lower vertabra, seemed pointless... it's the neck that made a world of difference. I've been having problems off and on ever since I was rear-ended in an auto accident.

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Originally posted by: Snatchface
In the last week I have seen 2 people in the ER who had just come from the chiropractor. One of them wound up completely paralyzed from a spinal cord hematoma and the other had a stroke from a carotid artery embolism...that's just in one week. No chiropractor for me, thanks.

How would he cause an embolism?

 

[iamme]

i've had this pain in my lower back for about 4 months. it doesn't feel like a muscle pain, as i've had those before.

i was considering a chiropractor, but i'm not sure. there seems to be mixed feelings about them on this board....

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Originally posted by: iamme
i've had this pain in my lower back for about 4 months. it doesn't feel like a muscle pain, as i've had those before.

i was considering a chiropractor, but i'm not sure. there seems to be mixed feelings about them on this board....

You won't find many MDs who recommend them, as there are plenty of horror stories around hospitals directly involving chiropractors.

 

[iamme]

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: iamme
i've had this pain in my lower back for about 4 months. it doesn't feel like a muscle pain, as i've had those before.

i was considering a chiropractor, but i'm not sure. there seems to be mixed feelings about them on this board....

You won't find many MDs who recommend them, as there are plenty of horror stories around hospitals directly involving chiropractors.

what do doctors usually do for back pain? medications and such?

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Originally posted by: iamme

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: iamme
i've had this pain in my lower back for about 4 months. it doesn't feel like a muscle pain, as i've had those before.

i was considering a chiropractor, but i'm not sure. there seems to be mixed feelings about them on this board....

You won't find many MDs who recommend them, as there are plenty of horror stories around hospitals directly involving chiropractors.

what do doctors usually do for back pain? medications and such?

It depends on what is wrong. They can treat with any method such as bed rest, medications, physical therapy, functional restoration, pain clinics, or surgical care. Back pain can be an indication for other problems (e.g. spinal hematomas), so they might order tests to find out if there are underlying problems.

 

[psiu]

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: iamme
i've had this pain in my lower back for about 4 months. it doesn't feel like a muscle pain, as i've had those before.

i was considering a chiropractor, but i'm not sure. there seems to be mixed feelings about them on this board....

You won't find many MDs who recommend them, as there are plenty of horror stories around hospitals directly involving chiropractors.

Wiki article

My wife and I just started seeinga chiropractor about 2 or 3 months ago, and it's been going quite well. She is not a "back cracker and twister", as she said, that's not fixing anything (so, there are occasional cracks, but they're incidental).

She started us off with some videos to explain the stuff, interviewed as to problems which brought us to her and general health questions, x-rays, and stood us in front of a mirror with our eyes closed and some twisting, turning movements...ending with what I though of as being centered and standing up straight really being all cockeyed and uneven.

She has a D.C. (Doctor of Chiropractic) which as this link shows, isn't that bad.

As far as results, my lower back is pain-free, which is something that I had kind of given up on. We haven't been able to go as much as would be preferable as we are waiting for her to get in-network with Aetna. My wife is also feeling much better.

However, YMMV would be the rule here I think. Good luck, you might want to ask around with people you know before choosing one.

 

[The Sauce]

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: Snatchface
In the last week I have seen 2 people in the ER who had just come from the chiropractor. One of them wound up completely paralyzed from a spinal cord hematoma and the other had a stroke from a carotid artery embolism...that's just in one week. No chiropractor for me, thanks.

How would he cause an embolism?

Aggressive neck manipulation caused a carotid plaque to dislodge. Lot's of case reports of this sort of thing happening from chiropractic manipulation, apparently. I was not aware it was a problem before seeing this patient.

 

[The Sauce]

Originally posted by: iamme

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: iamme
i've had this pain in my lower back for about 4 months. it doesn't feel like a muscle pain, as i've had those before.

i was considering a chiropractor, but i'm not sure. there seems to be mixed feelings about them on this board....

You won't find many MDs who recommend them, as there are plenty of horror stories around hospitals directly involving chiropractors.

what do doctors usually do for back pain? medications and such?

Most of the time (>95%) back pain gets better on it's own without doing anything. Supportive care is usually sufficient and causes no further harm. Apparently the same can not be said for chiropractic manipulation.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: iamme
i've had this pain in my lower back for about 4 months. it doesn't feel like a muscle pain, as i've had those before.

i was considering a chiropractor, but i'm not sure. there seems to be mixed feelings about them on this board....

You won't find many MDs who recommend them, as there are plenty of horror stories around hospitals directly involving chiropractors.

you can easily find worse/more horror stories invoving doctors and nurses.


drpizza: im glad you had a postive experience the your DC. There are a lot of quack DC out there and im glad you found one that knew what he was doing to relive your pain. have you been check for whiplash?

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Originally posted by: Citrix
you can easily find worse/more horror stories invoving doctors and nurses.

Because they actually deal with necessary risks that involve death. Chiro's deal with non-threatening issues that often end up with their client as a patient in the ED.

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Originally posted by: Snatchface

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: Snatchface
In the last week I have seen 2 people in the ER who had just come from the chiropractor. One of them wound up completely paralyzed from a spinal cord hematoma and the other had a stroke from a carotid artery embolism...that's just in one week. No chiropractor for me, thanks.

How would he cause an embolism?

Aggressive neck manipulation caused a carotid plaque to dislodge. Lot's of case reports of this sort of thing happening from chiropractic manipulation, apparently. I was not aware it was a problem before seeing this patient.

Very interesting. I've been doing alot of research on PEs and CEs for my Clinical Studies class, but that's the first time I've heard anything about a chiro causing an embolism. Thanks for the info.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: Citrix
you can easily find worse/more horror stories invoving doctors and nurses.

Because they actually deal with necessary risks that involve death. Chiro's deal with non-threatening issues that often end up with their client as a patient in the ED.

there are plenty of examples of doctors accidently killing or causing serious bodily harm just by routine non life threating treatments. there was a repot published on this a few months ago.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: Snatchface

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: Snatchface
In the last week I have seen 2 people in the ER who had just come from the chiropractor. One of them wound up completely paralyzed from a spinal cord hematoma and the other had a stroke from a carotid artery embolism...that's just in one week. No chiropractor for me, thanks.

How would he cause an embolism?

Aggressive neck manipulation caused a carotid plaque to dislodge. Lot's of case reports of this sort of thing happening from chiropractic manipulation, apparently. I was not aware it was a problem before seeing this patient.

is that fact or theory or sombodys opinion?

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: Citrix
you can easily find worse/more horror stories invoving doctors and nurses.

Because they actually deal with necessary risks that involve death. Chiro's deal with non-threatening issues that often end up with their client as a patient in the ED.

there are plenty of examples of doctors accidently killing or causing serious bodily harm just by routine non life threating treatments. there was a repot published on this a few months ago.

I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but can you provide an example (from personal experience or not) of a non life-threatening treatment resulting in serious injury or death?

 

[AutomaticErik]

I've got a ton of back pain from working 14-16 hours a day on a computer. My doctor prescribed me some anti-inflammatory pills and some valium, neither of which did a damn thing, but I also have a few sessions set aside with a rehabilitation specialist, which I have yet to take advantage of.